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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #120 on: June 16, 2012, 02:49:10 AM
Shhhh I'm making excuses!!

Nah to be honest I can go external, I can go 'extreme' but HP are still doing the £100 off every other month years later so wait till they do it again, add a single 1 TB drive to start and a £20 GFX card and I'm the uber man of the house share.

I can live with that and its the best way to get 8x 2TB drives instead of 4x 3TB drives and 4x 2TB F4's going to waste :P
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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #121 on: June 16, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
I'll be hooking 5x drives up inside mine, when my mix of 2/3TB drives is filling I'll be upgrading to 4TB so can't really see them filling for a long time when total capacity will be 16TB (taking off my parity drive).

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #122 on: June 16, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
HP are still doing the £100 off every other month years later so wait till they do it again

Sorry mate, get your wallet out... It's every month, not every other month, it's on offer at the moment at £110 cashback..

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #123 on: September 02, 2012, 05:05:02 AM
Sorry for being a complete n00b but I have a quetion regarding WHS 2011.... do you need a software firewall with this OS or is the built in fw sufficient? :nana:

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #124 on: September 02, 2012, 13:50:12 PM
Are you connecting the server direct to the Internet, or via a router? If the latter the the router firewall should e sufficient? I generally don't use the software firewalls as my router gives me the protection.

Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #125 on: September 03, 2012, 11:08:48 AM
Hi

Just building up my microserver and still debating options for drives to go in there.

If I were to find some kind of 5.25" mount that would allow me to install both a slimline DVD player and a 3.5" hard disk, where would I find a black case cover for the microserver that will allow just the drawer of the slimline DVD to eject? I don't really want to see a big hole in the front of the server through to the internals of the machine.

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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #126 on: September 03, 2012, 11:21:03 AM
I think you would have trouble finding a faceplate for that unless it came with the slimline drive, maybe you could go old skool and mod your own one with a Dremel? ;D

The only place I can think of that might do something suitable is http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/

Or maybe something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-5-25-Inch-Converter-Slot-Load-FP58B/dp/B007C1KPQY

Seems overclockers do them too http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-196-SV&campaign=pcm/googleshopping&pup_c=gs
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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #127 on: September 03, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
Thanks for the reply. I figured as much. I think I may opt instead for an external DVD drive that I can just plug in when I need to.

I have another question regarding USB connections on this server. The server has 2x USB connections on the back, and 4x USB connections on the front. Off the top of my head, I have the following USB devices that I will need to connect:-

2x USB single tuners
1x USB IR for my wireless MS keyboard and remote
1x USB wireless dongle
Occasional 2x USB connections for the external DVD (it uses two USB connections so that it can draw power without a plug socket being used)

Ideally, I would rather have most of this going on around the back of the server, but there are only 2 USB sockets there. Can I simply fit in a multi USB port adapter on the back (like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trust-Port-Usb-2-0-Power/dp/B001UE6OC8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1346668388&sr=8-9) and have all these USB devices hanging off this?

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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #128 on: September 03, 2012, 12:43:03 PM
Yeah you would have no problem attaching a powered hub like that to the back for extra ports, one of the great things about USB is being able to daisy chain them.

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Reply #129 on: September 03, 2012, 14:29:19 PM
The internal USB port on my system will remain unused as I plan to use a Windows 7 based OS (tahnks to this forum for guiding me thus far). I therefore wonder what else would be useful to plug into this port? How about a USB wireless network dongle, or do most people have these directly connected to the router via a cable or a homeplug type setup?

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Reply #130 on: September 03, 2012, 14:57:28 PM
Right, I hope I have no bought everything I need to build this system. A few items I had bought already need to be returned as either they do not fit or I have changed my mind on the build! I bought a graphics card which, although low profile, has a huge heat sink on it which prevents it from being installed in the machine. I also bought an external DVD writer and a 5.25" to 3.5" bracket as I was going to fit a fifth HD in the optical drive bay.

So, the spec will be as follows:-

4 x 2TB data disks (2 of these are brand new and 2 will be brought over from my existing media centre once all is up and running properly)
1 x 'normal' internal DVD player
1 x SSD Sandisk SataIII 64GB OS drive somehow sitting on or under the optical drive. This will be connected via a 0.5m eSATA to SATA cable routed from the outside of the case, through the 2nd PCI opening and via a molex to twin SATA power cable
ATI Radeon™ HD5450 512MB Graphics Card
I also bought and inserted an extra 2GB stick of RAM the other day for around £15 from PC World. TBH, I am not sure if this will work as it is not the same brand (though it is the same speed) as the supplied HP RAM - what do you think?
2 x single USB tuners hanging off the back of the machine via a USB hub

I will be running W7 with XBMC etc. There will be no RAID as I would rather backup manually to an external hard disk. When my ISP upload speeds are good enough, I may consider off site backup which would be great.

The cost so far has been about £100 for the server, £160 for the 2 hard disks, £40 for the SATA disk, £40 for the GFX card and £15 for the RAM, so £355 in total. If I can get it to work, that seems pretty good to me for an 8TB HTPC using far less electricity than my existing setup.

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Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #131 on: September 03, 2012, 15:16:15 PM
As long as the RAM you have is the same speed/type then the brand won't matter, you shouldn't have any problems. The memory installed by default is ECC memory (typically used in servers) but you don't have to use ECC memory, regular stuff is fine.

On the point you made about wifi or wired, I have mine connected wired as I wanted gigabit speeds for streaming fullHD to my PS3, if you don't have the need for such high speed then you could go wifi. Be aware though transferring lots of data over G wifi is horrendously slow, it would literally take days copying to fill those drives. I don't think N is much better really either. I sent a 1GB file from my laptop to the server yesterday over wifi, it took 30 minutes.

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Reply #132 on: September 03, 2012, 15:29:57 PM
So with regards to RAM, the new stick I bought is not ECC. Does it matter if there is one ECC and one none ECC?

I may just persevere with my wireless G network for the time being. There isn't really much that needs to be streamed to other machines in the house - its really just to get broadband onto my HTPC.

Incidentally, I will alos be running Squeezebox server as I have 3 or 4 Squeezebox devices around my house. Does anyone know of an alternative to Squeezebox Server (that will still run with my SB devices), or should I just stick to this?

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Reply #133 on: September 03, 2012, 16:12:16 PM
The internal USB port on my system will remain unused as I plan to use a Windows 7 based OS (tahnks to this forum for guiding me thus far). I therefore wonder what else would be useful to plug into this port? How about a USB wireless network dongle, or do most people have these directly connected to the router via a cable or a homeplug type setup?


you can usually mix eec with non eec - it just means the eec wont work in the stick that has it.
For the internal USB port, I would use a wifi dongle in case you want to connect the machine into another room for example, or a bluetooth dongle or wireless dongle for wireless keyboard/mouse/remote control. You could even prob. mod an IR receiver for an IR remote.
Or just a pendrive to save settings/configs to incase worst case scenario.


Re: HP Proliant Microserver - Purchase, Upgrade & Setup Guide
Reply #134 on: September 05, 2012, 09:57:42 AM
I now have most of my n40l server setup, from a hardware and OS point of view. I have a 64GB SSD drive stuck to the top of my optical drive, connected via an eSATA to SATA cable from the outside port.

The first thing I did was to update the BIOS to the 'bay' BIOS, so I downloaded the HP BIOS, followed the instructions and substituted the HP BIOS file for the modded BIOS file. Rebooted with the USB stick and the BIOS 'seemed' to update OK. Now when the computer boots, the post screen seems to mention the Bay bios as it loads up, so I assume that it has installed correctly.

However, within BIOS, I do not seem to be getting some of the menus that some of the threads in various forums seem to suggest I should be getting. For example, this thread shows a photo of a Sothbridge screen: http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3397-modified-bios-for-microserver-n40l-enables-hidden-features/

Now I do get a Southbridge page in the BIOS, but there are only two options there. I am at work now so I don't have the n40l next to me to know exactly what it says, but for sure there are none of the options shown in that picture.

Does this sound normal?

One thing I do notice with the machine is that it isn't as quiet as I was hoping it might be. This machine will sit beneath my TV in the living room, so I wanted something as quiet as possible. I have seen a thread about changing the case fan for something quieter (which isn't as straightforward as it should be due to the arrangement of pins on the fan/motherboard connector. However, the thread suggests that a good portion of the noise comes from the small PSU fan rather than the case fan, and this, of course, cannot be changed. A pity it is as loud as it is.

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