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35mm
on: August 28, 2009, 00:28:57 AM
Anyone here still shooting film?

Iv just bought a used canon EOS 3 35mm SLR for a bit of fun, i never really got the chance to shoot with film seriously as it had been replaced by memory card before i was interested in photography. Got the Body, manual, stack of films and a rechargeable battery and charger.

This SLR is a really fancy bit of kit, far better AF system than my 450D, its like 45 point AF and it reads your eye to work out where to focus, very cool indeed. I need an old EF mount lens tho as i bought EF-S for the newer DSLR mount.

Will be on the hunt for a cheap zoom lens for it now.

Im actually really looking forward to loading film, taking photos rather more carefully than i do with the DSLR and finding out just how good/bad i am when they are developed.

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Reply #1 on: August 28, 2009, 12:03:06 PM
I still shoot film once in a while, I have a Pentax SFX which I use when I want a decent camera but am concerned that it might be damaged (theme parks etc) and an ME-F which I use for nostalgic reasons as much as anything else. Theres just something about working a "proper" old camera.

Of course any EF lenses you buy for the EOS 3 will fit your 450D as well so it wont be money wasted. Its a shame the EF-S lenses dont fit EOS film bodys, my Pentax 18-55 produces some quite amusing semi-fish eye effects when mounted on a film camera.

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Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 23:14:59 PM
Well i ended up getting an EF 28-135 IS lens, shot a roll of film to test, seems great, until i use the flash, completely over exposed on the 2 shots i used it on, now i have to mess around and work out why.

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Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 23:52:28 PM
will scan the negative and post it as im not sure



As you can see clearly 2 images on the right printed fine, the 2 on the left, seem to be very over exposed.

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Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 12:38:50 PM
heres some ideas, youve probably checked some or all of them already:

Is it a separate flashgun? (not sure if the EOS3 has a built in flash) if so, make sure it is fitted properly to the hotshoe, sometimes my flash doesnt contact properly with the shoe and the automatic metering gets messed up.

Check the flash is set to auto and not manual full power. Also check any exposure compensation modes on either the camera or the flash.

were you using the flash as primary light source? if it was only partly dark and you were going for a fill light effect, make sure the shutter speed isnt being limited by the maximum flash sync speed of the camera. This is usually quite slow, 1/250th or less, meaning that if youre using fill flash on a bright day you have to close the aperture down to avoid over-exposure. Fill flash is great when you pull it off, but can be hard to ballance the light sources.

hope this helps

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Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 14:25:58 PM
Its a separate flashgun checked the compatibility and its suitable for the EOS3 as well as my 450D. Not sure i had it seated properly iv taken some more test shots and checked the reading on the gun, its showing the correct ISO zoom and aperture so should be working properly, the shots were taken in a room with a fluorescent light so just adding to it, all set to auto so should have been ok, not sure where it went wrong tbh

the shutter speed sets to 1/60 by default with the flash on, i can use Tv to go up to 1/200 but i would have thought the camera would adjust the aperture to suit the 1/60 if its working properly.

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Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 15:00:13 PM
try metering for the scene without the flashgun and then putting the gun on and checking the meter reading again.

If the meter is indicating a longer shutter time without dropping the aperture when the flash is introduced then that would explain the over exposure. Im not sure why it should be doing that though.

Real basics I know but I assume you are sure the lens is stopping down correctly? if the camera is calling for a small aperture but the lens isnt stopping down properly then that would cause overexposure.

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Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 18:48:58 PM
ill check the lens is actually stopping down properly, altho it works perfectly with the flashgun on my 450D

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Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 19:20:08 PM
The 2 frames on the left are under-exposed, not over-exposed. It looks as if the flash hasnt gone off at all.

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Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 22:55:49 PM
I still use my minolta dynax 9xi more than the d90

And I have a mamiya 645 that is awesome tbh. Digital is still well off medium format, imo.


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Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 18:56:22 PM
Right, well iv had another test film processed and all the flash photos are very under exposed in fact they only printed 2 out of 6 flash shots.

The gun is firing but the images are like i had my hand over the flash, seems to me it may not be syncing but iv no idea if i cant test that, any suggestions?

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Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 20:17:55 PM
well i seem to have worked out the problem.

with ETTL its supposed to fire a preflash then open the shutter then fire a main flash, its not firing the main flash, only way round it is to use FEL (flash exposure lock) to fire the preflash then take the photo and it fires the main flash.

worked all this out by noticing how hot it gets when you stick your hand over the flash when it fires.. ouch.

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Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 10:00:42 AM
Quote from: Ceathreamhnan
The 2 frames on the left are under-exposed, not over-exposed. It looks as if the flash hasnt gone off at all.


DOH!!!

youre right of course, shows how long it is since I last used film seriously!

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Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 21:09:13 PM
Still not sure whats causing the issue, waiting of a roll to be processed, went to jessops and used a proper canon speedlight as i suspect the jessops own isnt 100% compatible

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Reply #14 on: September 22, 2009, 23:08:51 PM
If its anything like the Nikons, a dedicated Canon flash will allow the camera to meter the exposure directly off the film during the shutter opening, thus guaranteeing perfect exposure.

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