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Title: Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Mardoni on July 22, 2006, 23:05:27 PM
I have a picture I took for a couple of friends today but stupidly I didnt whack the flash on to cancel out the backlight.

I have played with adjusting the brightness and I think I can do what I need to by bringing the level up by around 30%. My problem is that I cannot work out how to select my two friends and get them into their own layer (using PSP).

I will attach the picture if needed but Id prefer to be given some pointers...

I have tried "magic wanding" on RGB, Hue and Brightness with varying tollerance levels but they all select a load of stuff.

I have tried free handing the selection but I cannot get it accurate enough :/

Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: brummie on July 22, 2006, 23:10:02 PM
give us a look then. hard to say without really seeing the problem. Its not gay porn is it????
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Mardoni on July 22, 2006, 23:25:59 PM
hahaha, no...I know youd like that but its not :p


Ok, here it is :o



(http://www.7six.co.uk/7six/gallery/albums/db10/DSCN0932.sized.jpg) (http://"http://www.7six.co.uk/7six/gallery/albums/db10/DSCN0932.jpg")

Click on it for the Bigger Picture ;)
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: brummie on July 22, 2006, 23:45:08 PM
I dont think its that bad. Maybe set up the dodge brush to about 30% opacity and colour over them?


(http://www.8rummie.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DSCN09322 (Small).jpg) (http://www.8rummie.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DSCN09322.jpg)


Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Serious on July 23, 2006, 00:17:36 AM
Use a lassoo tool and then brighten the area selected

Ill see what I can do.
Title: Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Mardoni on July 23, 2006, 00:17:55 AM
Ahh now thats clever, howd you do that ?

lol.

I am such a nub when it comes to this sort of thing; I write the tools, I dont use them :p
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Mardoni on July 23, 2006, 00:18:51 AM
Quote from: Serious
Use a lassoo tool and then brighten the area selected


I tried that but I cannot get it accurate enough. I end up brightening a little bit of a border around them which becomes blindingly apparent when you view the whole image :/
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: brummie on July 23, 2006, 00:22:10 AM
Its the dodge/burn tool.

Lassooing is too inaccurate so i used that to just paint over the area i needed lightened
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Serious on July 23, 2006, 00:37:31 AM
try feathering the edge
Title: Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: maximusotter on July 23, 2006, 00:43:08 AM
Ill give it a go in a bit using the gimp and the magic scissors. :D
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Serious on July 23, 2006, 00:49:43 AM
Not too bad but maxi will probably outdo me, pic is clicky ;)

(http://www.antarctic-one.com/images/tempsml.JPG) (http://www.antarctic-one.com/images/temp.jpg)
Title: Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Mardoni on July 23, 2006, 01:44:38 AM
oh grrr, thats not bad either :p

Is it just me or in all of these pictures, original included, do the couple look *fake* ?
Title: Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: maximusotter on July 23, 2006, 01:53:28 AM
yeah.

(http://static.flickr.com/67/195751035_9b3492ea55_o.jpg)

I fooled around with it, and it always looked horrid because of the huge contrast changes in the background, I mean, you could lower the level range and grey out the sky and make them pop, but it looked completely fake-aroo.

So I found me a pyramid...
Title: Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Serious on July 23, 2006, 02:06:59 AM
Quote from: Nimrod
oh grrr, thats not bad either :p

Is it just me or in all of these pictures, original included, do the couple look *fake* ?


Thats an issue of distance from the background, makes them stick out a lot.

TBH I have found it rather difficult to sort out her face properly, needs a red reduction to balance it :/

Still I think the above is good enough for a snap and if yours are of a similar quality they should be happy with the result ;)

Forgot to say I did it in PSP 9, selected the lasso tool then set the feathering to a suitable level before I grabbed the faces. ITs mainly the Adjust/Photo Fix/Fill Flash option but its best to play around with the options and use undo if you dont like the result.

Left to its own automatic repair option it made a right royal *up of it.
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Alien8 on July 23, 2006, 03:32:16 AM
(http://static.flickr.com/61/195799958_8fa56a4e03.jpg)
full size (http://static.flickr.com/61/195799958_8fa56a4e03_o.jpg)

I personly went for a faux DOF efect I felt it was the sharp back drop that was causing the distraction
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: brummie on July 23, 2006, 12:39:07 PM
The main problem is the quality of pic. As soon as you go to adjust the levels all the noise shines through.

And serious, wtf did you do to that pic? it looks horrendous  :shock:
Title: Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Mardoni on July 23, 2006, 12:59:49 PM
Cheers everyone, more than anything this has shown me that I actually know feck all about post-processing images :D

I think that all of the different solutions have the pros and cons, Alien8 that certainly does help to make the pair of them look less fake :)

Im going to grab all the images and let them choose which they want, knowing my luck itll be Maxs ;)
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Badabing on July 23, 2006, 23:00:19 PM
all that money on their new stadium and its been hit with subsidence already... and who invited neal kinnock?
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: Serious on July 24, 2006, 01:37:58 AM
Quote from: brummie
The main problem is the quality of pic. As soon as you go to adjust the levels all the noise shines through.

And serious, wtf did you do to that pic? it looks horrendous  :shock:


Youre just jealous at my 1337 photo manipulation skills :P
Title: Re:Need some help with selective brightening...
Post by: brummie on July 24, 2006, 09:08:06 AM
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: brummie
The main problem is the quality of pic. As soon as you go to adjust the levels all the noise shines through.

And serious, wtf did you do to that pic? it looks horrendous  :shock:


Youre just jealous at my 1337 photo manipulation skills :P



LOL thats what it is???  :roll: