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Reply #15 on: June 08, 2010, 20:11:19 PM
I still have my old Fuji Finepix S7000 camera kicking around. Theyre pretty old now/discontinued, but its in good condition, if youre interested I think I would sell it for £75 +P&P, which includes a soft camera bag, adapter ring, UV filter and polarising filter. Hopefully others can say whether that is a good price or not.  

Camera wise, it has an excellent macro, good zoom, couldnt fault it really. Took some good pics with it, but pretty quickly moved on to a proper SLR.

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Reply #16 on: June 09, 2010, 00:31:02 AM
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I still have my old Fuji Finepix S7000 camera kicking around. Theyre pretty old now/discontinued, but its in good condition, if youre interested I think I would sell it for £75 +P&P, which includes a soft camera bag, adapter ring, UV filter and polarising filter. Hopefully others can say whether that is a good price or not.  

Camera wise, it has an excellent macro, good zoom, couldnt fault it really. Took some good pics with it, but pretty quickly moved on to a proper SLR.


I was going to look for something with warranty off the bat for peace of mind, but thanks anyway
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Reply #17 on: August 24, 2010, 03:55:02 AM
Best camera for that price point?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010701sonydslra200.asp

Any cheap lenses available for it? I read it uses the old Minolta mount on it as its based on a Minolta camera owing to them pulling out and handing the assets over to Sony.
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Re:What to look for?
Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 19:19:04 PM
Not sure on prices for second hand bodies, but just be aware it is a lot easier to get 3rd party lenses for Canon / Nikon kit, and mostly for less money.

Any money you save now, youll probably lose in the long run, Ive had a play with a Sony Alpha and just didnt like how it functioned, Im sure it takes good pictures, just wasnt impressed with the interface.

But looks like quite a good price not sure what that compares to from Canon/Nikon?


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Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 19:53:55 PM
With the exception of the anti-shake, maybe comparable to the canon 1000D or 450D?

Its worth watching a half dozen lenses on ebay of similar focal lengths that would be compatible with the A200 and the comparable canon (or nikon) ones to get an idea of price.

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Reply #20 on: August 24, 2010, 20:00:26 PM
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With the exception of the anti-shake, maybe comparable to the canon 1000D or 450D?

Its worth watching a half dozen lenses on ebay of similar focal lengths that would be compatible with the A200 and the comparable canon (or nikon) ones to get an idea of price.


Yeh its just knowing which cameras are comparable, it was hard enough i found that that got a good review then cross referenced that and other cameras on ebay to see which ones sold for a reasonable amount. :P

Im guessing thats one of the best/chepeast SLR Cameras? Whats the cheapest good quality SLR camera?
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Reply #21 on: August 24, 2010, 20:31:32 PM
What was your budget again? £165 for a DSLR + Lens?

My understanding of it all is that for that money youd likely get better results with a hybrid...that or you have been extremely lucky on fleabay and somehow got a camera that slipped through everyone elses net.

My understanding when I was deliberating on upgrading to the 40D on the "best" canon slrs for different price brackets were possibly:

450D - Entry level, few years old and been replaced by a few other cameras (500, 550D) Im excluding the 1000D as I got the impression thats kind of in its own price bracket BELOW the xxxDs and as such is the kind of camera you may be better off with a hybrid on. Might be able to pick a kit up for a little under £300

40D - mid level, again old and replaced (by the 50D, which will soon be replaced). As mentioned elsewhere here, the 50D upgrade to the sensor may have added more MP (and more ££) but apparently also decreased image quality. As a result the 40D is cheap due to its age but is a good higher end camera. I Paid £400 for the body, which I think was reasonable. I guess if you waited and looked around and were lucky you might find one for £350+lens, but youd have to be very lucky as well as asking yourself why it was so cheap.

7D - upper level, expensive, but versatile without being silly expensive. -£1000+

1D - The nads. Also costs the earth. Wont say anything else as I know nothing else on the camera as unless I win the lottery I doubt Ill ever even get to hold one, let alone use one.

Honourable mention might be the 400D, the "one before" the 450D. The biggest difference between the two being the 400 being the last to not have live view. As a result Id imagine these are going a lot cheaper due to people wanting to get something WITH live view. For instance I sold my 400D+kit lens for £225, I know I could have got £250 for it, possibly £275 with a few other bits, but again if youre lucky You may find one for £200-£250, and then youre on the Canon ladder and your lenses if you get more will work with any future upgrades etc.

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Reply #22 on: August 24, 2010, 20:38:40 PM
I guess it depends what you want it for? - does seem like a very good price for an entry level DSLR.

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Reply #23 on: August 24, 2010, 20:47:40 PM
I was going to buy a Canon A480 it was still on my list of "stuff to buy" this year, and would only set me back about £50.

Mainly to start off with just still shots, taking pictures of items for ebay, gumtree, and peoples cars to sell on/offline, but i would like to go further and as i do more car shows etc, take some pictures at those which could include moving shots.

On top of this, ive seen some places in the van in the last couple of weeks, sunsets/landscapes and such and thought to myself i wish i had a camera to capture that image as some of them have been truly breathtaking and now im covering North Devon and the East Coast to Bournemouth ill have plenty of opportunities. Ive also been watching the Photography forum and could see this becoming another hobby. :)

As said above i was going to go for the Canon presuming it would do for what i need except for moving shots, so what im now considering is an SLR but it would be better with a lowest budget as possible as i do have other stuff on my list to buy this year :P
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Reply #24 on: August 24, 2010, 21:00:58 PM
you will get a canon 300d or 350d for less than £200 - prob £100-£150 if your lucky

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Reply #25 on: August 24, 2010, 21:01:48 PM
Completely disregarding what I said above...the other thing is that everyone says that the lens is more important than the glass. So youd be ok with the cheapest slr body you can find, so long as you have an alright lens. Of course, these cost money, but if you did find it becoming a hobby you can keep the lenses and trade up the body.

But factor in that for sports youll want a telephoto lens = £200 for a decent one minimum I think, 50mm lens for ebay shots and the likes = £80, and the lenses themselves are more than you want to spend. Unless it is a hobby where the act of taking the pictures and the memory of the moment is more important than the sharpness and quality of the picture, in which case £40 for a wide lens and £50 for a telephoto lens, they wont be great but youll be able to take pictures with them :D

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Reply #26 on: August 24, 2010, 21:21:23 PM
300D
http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/SHdetails.asp?Item=24451

350D
http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/SHdetails.asp?Item=23740

The 2 above are only rated 3 star though, i guess its out of 5 stars, gives me an idea of what they sell for in retail though.

So im guessing 18-55mm lens is what you refer to as a 50mm lens for general shots?
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Reply #28 on: August 24, 2010, 21:59:32 PM
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300d ends in 13hrs
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CANON-EOS-300D-/330462920450?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN


I saw that one but the lens is scratched and it needs a new battery, should i be wary?
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Reply #29 on: August 24, 2010, 22:08:46 PM
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So im guessing 18-55mm lens is what you refer to as a 50mm lens for general shots?


No, 50mm is 50mm, 18-55mm is 18-55mm. Though I admit I am probably wrong in suggesting a 50mm as a starter, youd probably be better off with the 18-55mm as its more versatile, but not as sharp as a 50mm. I just got a 50mm and think its great, the only thing being that the "zoom" is with your feet.

Bare in mind that as the 18-55mm kit lenses have a bad rep and are quite often obtained as a kit, they are extremely common on ebay so you CAN pick up a pristine 18-55 for < £50, the ones Ive seen have gone for £25-£35 lately. you might find it cheaper to get a body+duff lens, and sell the duff lens on, and get a better one, than to get one with a ok lens?

I hadnt mentioned the 350D due to its age, but it certainly was/is a very popular camera.

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