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General Discussion / Re: The end of Petrol cars has started
« Last post by Serious on December 04, 2020, 17:30:33 PM »
It is still going to take time, not all people are going to find switching as easy as might be thought. Countries still need to ramp up electric supply and places where it can be sourced.

There needs to be a lot more battery production too. Easy for a country to say that this has to be done, far more difficult to actually do it.
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General Discussion / Re: Jitsi meet
« Last post by Serious on December 04, 2020, 17:24:09 PM »
I have a discord account somewhere......
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General Discussion / Re: Hello everyone!
« Last post by soopahfly on December 04, 2020, 15:33:52 PM »
Quote from: Pete on December 04, 2020, 10:23:21 AM
Blimey, all these old faces! And PTU :ptu:!

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 17, 2020, 08:52:10 AM
Quote from: Pete on November 17, 2020, 00:27:23 AM
Hello!! Clearing out my email and saw an old email from this place, how long has it been?  ;D

Very long! What you driving these days?


Black Merc c class, nothing fancy - bought it for the flappy auto box mostly cos I'm too old and creaky for clutch pedals. Shoulda got a bmw but yunno, mercs have bigger & shinier badges on the front :D.

How about you lot? Who else is married with kids and spending their Friday nights zonked out on the sofa?

Definitely feeling the Fridays on the sofa.
Seems I'm an introvert these days so I'm not one for socialising.
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General Discussion / Re: Hello everyone!
« Last post by Clock'd 0Ne on December 04, 2020, 10:34:04 AM »
I'm in bed by 8/9pm these days, toddler takes it out of me :lol:
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General Discussion / Re: Hello everyone!
« Last post by Pete on December 04, 2020, 10:23:21 AM »
Blimey, all these old faces! And PTU :ptu:!

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 17, 2020, 08:52:10 AM
Quote from: Pete on November 17, 2020, 00:27:23 AM
Hello!! Clearing out my email and saw an old email from this place, how long has it been?  ;D

Very long! What you driving these days?


Black Merc c class, nothing fancy - bought it for the flappy auto box mostly cos I'm too old and creaky for clutch pedals. Shoulda got a bmw but yunno, mercs have bigger & shinier badges on the front :D.

How about you lot? Who else is married with kids and spending their Friday nights zonked out on the sofa? 

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General Discussion / Re: The US Election
« Last post by matt5cott on December 04, 2020, 10:09:48 AM »
Quote from: matt5cott on December 03, 2020, 10:54:08 AM
Having watched parts of some of the weird hearings there clearly is evidence and there clearly was fraud (as there is at any human ran election)  However they seem to keep claiming there's bigger and better evidence, all this "unleash the kraken" Rhetoric so far has been just talk.

I think we're on a similar page here, most of your post is what I meant when I said the above :)



Although since I wrote that actual evidence is now surfacing online finally, some interesting videos of what appears to be a USB drive "secretly" Being passed from off of a machine, and videos of a voting centre being "Shut down" People leaving, then loads of gear being pulled from under tables :lol: :lol: :lol: Hopefully this all ends up in a proper court hearing and quickly, it needs sorting.

This was the kind of evidence I was expecting from the get go.
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General Discussion / Re: The end of Petrol cars has started
« Last post by Clock'd 0Ne on December 04, 2020, 09:57:44 AM »
I agree the govt didn't need to mandate it, I don't think it's even sticking their oar for any reason other than it's just a good piece to soundbite essentially; get the hippies on board :lol:

I don't think the battery issue with degradation is as bad as has been made out. My Prius is from 2005 and has done 120k, the battery is still reporting excellent health and seems good as new. They are also figuring out a way to both recycle them for home energy storage and move away from using rare earth metals in their production.

It's another early adoption thing where the tech will only improve with a market drive to do so. Tesla has spunked so much money into that its now getting traction, so whether you like Musk and the cars or not its irrefutable that he's moved us forward leaps and bounds.

Hydrogen is the other tech that will come into play too, Toyota are really pushing it as its really the only viable option for heavy industry.
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General Discussion / Re: The end of Petrol cars has started
« Last post by matt5cott on December 04, 2020, 09:31:19 AM »
Governments etc will push for this but I have the same serious reservations I've always had, batteries even today are still not the clean saviours they're often touted as, yes it offsets what's coming out the back to a degree and yes you can power them with probably cleaner energy off the grid, it's the battery packs being stuffed with rare earth minerals and flown around the world to be assembled bit that raises my eyebrow.

We have a finance it / build em cheap /chuck em away culture, battery cars don't appear to have changed this, if people are replacing them as often as they change their pants it somewhat offsets any "gains" And there's the fact that cells don't last forever, if you've got to replace them at ~7 years the car becomes beyond economical repair in many cases. This is why I won't buy a hybrid as it's a ticking time bomb and I keep my cars long term.


2030 is probably do-able, but if by then the technology has already changed drastically and the issues above are resolved (note I've not even included range as the newer stuff already is pretty good) Then the market will have pushed this way naturally anyway, why does the government need to mandate this :dunno: ::) Sticking their oar in again ::) :lol:
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General Discussion / Re: The end of Petrol cars has started
« Last post by Clock'd 0Ne on December 04, 2020, 08:47:41 AM »
I think banning production of new cars is sensible, as long as people can still enjoy what will be 'classic' cars still I don't have a problem, the numbers will be low and dwindling as electric car performance already destroys most cars and the only ones that will have longevity are real driving enthusiast cars with beautiful sounding V6/V8/V10 engines.

Having children changes your perspective on things. I no longer think it's acceptable for them to breathe in sh*te air constantly and that is first and foremost why I welcome the change. Not that I genuinely thought it was fine before but it's 'I'm alright, Jack' mentality. There are added benefits of reduced costs as well. I'm already driving round in a Prius so I'm halfway there, our next family car will be full electric one way or the other. One day I'll buy a nice V6/V8 weekend car perhaps.
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General Discussion / Re: 15 Years ago.
« Last post by zpyder on December 04, 2020, 07:51:31 AM »
Damn, I literally removed off of my server the videos and photos I had from the Sam crashers I went to, about 2 weeks ago.
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