(http://www.raleighusa.com/images/items/Road/full/2007/R07-OneWay_Black-f.jpg)
Single speed with full rack mounts, and Tektro Oryx cantis (Avid shorty cloe). Black, as that the color urban bikes should be, and teh sex. :shock: Id trade in the Brodie for that any day of the week. :slobber:
The One-Way is beyond my means, but Im seriously thinking of selling the Brodie and getting the Redline 9*2*5. Im quite annoyed at the amount of thinking thats involved in using a derailleur bike with discs. The Redline is specced flip/flop with a 15T fixed, and 16T free. 8) Id go for a internally geared bike, but theyre all a bit too pedestrian for my body, which is used to race bikes. :P
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/redline-925.html
lol see I once drooled over the elegance of a 3 speed hub :D lol even a 7 speed nexus one but after reading the arsedness of repairing a puncture on them, makes me realise I love normal derailier gears :D lol.
Id go singlespeed, and infact may do so damn soon. Im moving to cardiff, only short hills well except one HUGGGEEE ONE that I sure as hell do not ever want a reason to go up, and all the couriers run singlespeeds around here.
Still that Raleigh is a nice looking beastie! :)
The first mistake people make with repairing punctures on Nexus bikes, is thinking that they have to remove the wheel. You just pull out the bit of tube with the hole. No big deal. Even removing the wheel is easy if you insist. Shift to the slackest gear. Disengage the cable from the socket, which involves compressing a small spring with your thumb, remove teh brake arm with a philips driver, loosen the wheel nuts, and pull that bitch out. Takes maybe 5 minutes longer than a derailleur bike. Smartest thing is to just plop a Schwalbe Marathon in back. Youll not have a single flat. Replace every 5 years or as needed.
Anyhoo, if I got the Redline, Id think about rebuilding the rear wheel on a classic S/a hub. :thumbup: Especially if I could find one of the fixed gear models. :w00t:
I did my first puncture without removing the wheel, but to be honest, with mudguards and a rack on the rear wheel, I just couldnt be arsed to do it again. :)
Not had a puncture yet on my new tyres, but only done about 50 miles on the damn things until I crashed :D lol
what is le damage on the raleigh?, cant be that expensive, with it being a raleigh and being so pimptastically simple.
Its $800, which I cant justify, as I can build something up for under half that, that would be just as good. :lol: I just bought a new bike worth that much a few months ago, and already own a SS bike. Might get the Redline in the coming year, as its only $500. I have a problem with Raleigh branding anyway, as they sold their soul to the devil and allow sh*tty Chinese bikes with their name to be sold at Wally World. For shame.
Quote from: maximusottersh*tty Chinese bikes
arent all bikes, from a top of the line Moots, to sh*tty chinese bikes, all the same and its just the fancy branding that bumps the price up? :?:
Dont be a Simpleton Simon. China is capable of making stuff just as nice as anywhere on the planet. Reality is that Taiwan, not the PRC, has the greatest recent history of quality mass-manfufacture of bikes. Trek, Surly, Kona--all made in Taiwan for the most part, and well made to boot. Some bikes come off of the same line, like the Fuji Touring and the Windsor bike with a different paint job.
Pacific Cycle is the umbrella group that builds most department store bikes in China, that get sold in the states, and its mainly the reason that a lot of us have a bad opinion of PRC bikes, as they mainly mean something built by Pacific. As for native brands, Id ride a Flying Pigeon any day. :mrgreen:
Back in the 80s, because of the exchange rate, and location of technology, Japan was the go-to country for inexpensive, but quality bikes. Its now Taiwan, and could change overnight to the PRC, but that aint the status quo.
Quote from: maximusotterDont be a Simpleton Simon. China is capable of making stuff just as nice as anywhere on the planet. Reality is that Taiwan, not the PRC, has the greatest recent history of quality mass-manfufacture of bikes. Trek, Surly, Kona--all made in Taiwan for the most part, and well made to boot. Some bikes come off of the same line, like the Fuji Touring and the Windsor bike with a different paint job.
Pacific Cycle is the umbrella group that builds most department store bikes in China, that get sold in the states, and its mainly the reason that a lot of us have a bad opinion of PRC bikes, as they mainly mean something built by Pacific. As for native brands, Id ride a Flying Pigeon any day. :mrgreen:
Back in the 80s, because of the exchange rate, and location of technology, Japan was the go-to country for inexpensive, but quality bikes. Its now Taiwan, and could change overnight to the PRC, but that aint the status quo.
alot of my colleagues in my group at uni are chinese and i am sure they will not be happy at your rather negative view of their production standards of push bikes... i know its something they specifically pride themselves on, so be warned.
I will not tolerate you anti-chino (thats the country NOT the lightly coloured pants my dad wears) stance on bicycles. EVER.
*walks away whistling, chest puffed out*
Meh, it says nothing about China, just what the market is asking from it. Their cruder standard models, mostly Raleigh DL copies, are magnificent in the repair tools needed. For the most part you can fix them with an assortment of rocks and a jar of peanut butter. :lol:
Im sure there are decent bikes coming from there but the mainland stuff we get in the states is appalling, probably because X-marts across the nation demand "mtbs" they can sell for $79, not because the country itself is incapable of tooling to build a quality ride.
Quote from: maximusotterMeh, it says nothing about China, just what the market is asking from it. Their cruder standard models, mostly Raleigh DL copies, are magnificent in the repair tools needed. For the most part you can fix them with an assortment of rocks and a jar of peanut butter. :lol:
Im sure there are decent bikes coming from there but the mainland stuff we get in the states is appalling, probably because X-marts across the nation demand "mtbs" they can sell for $79, not because the country itself is incapable of tooling to build a quality ride.
dont try and squirm your way out of this one...
once my colleagues have torn themselves away from listening to appaulingly bad chinese pop music and their microwave chinese meals, which are almost as appauling as their music... theyll be round to see you...
You are in big trouble (in little china) mr bike facist.
Theyll likely collapse on the climb up to the house. I have to dodge rickshaw carcasses every time I ride into town.
Im trying to fall out of love with the Brodie, and if it wasnt for the magnificent frame, and masculine blackness of it, Id be able to let go of my dear easily. :lol: I hate the disk brakes, so Ill be glad to see that go. The gears are fussy, with 6-7 rubbing with the small ring (design, not setup flaw), and the rack slips a bit and blocks the rear brake caliper if you load a pannier with more than 20# worth of crap. Front forks are not spaced properly, so it can be a bitch to get wheel aligned when mounting. Hmmm, lots of niggly stuff. I just wish it didnt look so damn cool. Its the only one in the entire SE USA, afaik. Cant...be...the bitch....of ....exclusivity.
me want this:
(http://www.bikingbis.com/_photos/Redline925.jpg)
buy it you big gay boy! that bike looks slick as f*ck, worry about heating and food bills afterwards, i often sit there like a big queen pontificating, but the joy you get from riding it is priceless (just keep chanting that as the mastercard is beaten to a pulp, again).
im trying to order my on-one fixed wheel city scoot this week...
ive worked it out thus:
ribble for racing and training.
on-one inbred (29er) for off road
AND
on-one fixer for commuting and looking fly...
DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
Well, I dont have the dosh to sanely buy it outright, atm, so its one or the other. I have to sell the Brodie to get the Redline, thats the choice. Its like Sophies Choice, but even harder! :lol:
Brodie points are: Looks the shiznit, but so does the Redline, is absolutely fearless at high speeds and in corners--which is probably the excellent frame and 37mm tires.
Redline points: Flip flop hub. :D Skinnier and zoomier rubber. Double butted cromo, simple dual pivot brakes, 36H rims, and it will likely take less brainspace to ride.
Another thing: I hate rapidfire shifters. Yeah, they work, but so friggin loud! I want a bike thats just transparent tool, like my other SS, but with provisions for the haulage of lager and corn flakes.
I may clean up the Brodie in the morn and post her on craigslist for $625.
The Redline is just a steal at $500. And no using credit cards for me--unless it gets payed off monthly, as its a stupid place to put yourself, even if its just $500. :P
Ã,£265....
F*CK
ME
SOLID.
An absolute steal... rip their arm off, one of the best bargains ive seen in ages.
:shock:
and max, you being a queen - youre doing what i do, trying to convince yourself you dont want it... you want it, f*cking hell, i want it, at that price.
buuuuyyyy it!!! and send me the brodie for free! :D lol.
Yeah, the spec is really smart. Stem, bar, and post are generic, good places to save money. Frame is house brand db cromo, likely tange, rims are 36H triple box Alex--cheap and strong, hubs are Formula cartridge, and so on. The only name brand are the Freddy Fender mudguards. It looks like a specialty bike that would cost at least $800! :shock: I almost want it just to support Redline for putting out a no-hype simple bike. :lol:
Quote from: maximusotterYeah, the spec is really smart. Stem, bar, and post are generic, good places to save money. Frame is house brand db cromo, likely tange, rims are 36H triple box Alex--cheap and strong, hubs are Formula cartridge, and so on. The only name brand are the Freddy Fender mudguards. It looks like a specialty bike that would cost at least $800! :shock: I almost want it just to support Redline for putting out a no-hype simple bike. :lol:
the frame alone over here would be worth Ã,£150-200.
Well, its just as nice as the good, but overhyped Surly Steamroller frame:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/surlysteamroller.html
And just the SR frame is $410. So thats $90 for a build out. :lol: :D
Weight, with sturdy wheels, tires, and mudguards is reportedly 24 pounds--very acceptable!
Quote from: maximusotterWell, its just as nice as the good, but overhyped Surly Steamroller frame:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/surlysteamroller.html
And just the SR frame is $410. So thats $90 for a build out. :lol: :D
Weight, with sturdy wheels, tires, and mudguards is reportedly 24 pounds--very acceptable!
not a huge fan of the surly frames, nice components such as hubs, but id still have the redline...
The Surly frames are freakin great for cxcross according to a local dude that races his Cross-Check...as a fixed gear against geared bikes and wins. :lol: Hed likely win on your grannys bike, as hes the veritable brick sh*thouse. :D Ive never liked the paint on them, but you cant fault their frame design, its pretty traditional with a few twists. I especially like the pacer, their road bike that takes 57mm reach brakes. Again, why the finish on their bikes needs to be so bleepin ugly is what turns me off. :lol: That and their ugly logo. :P
Redline is a pretty straight up company that started with BMX back in in the mid-70s, so them making a sane SS makes perfect sense. They made teh first tubular bmx fork, back in 75 afaik.
Quote from: maximusotterThe Surly frames are freakin great for cxcross according to a local dude that races his Cross-Check...as a fixed gear against geared bikes and wins. :lol: Hed likely win on your grannys bike, as hes the veritable brick sh*thouse. :D Ive never liked the paint on them, but you cant fault their frame design, its pretty traditional with a few twists. I especially like the pacer, their road bike that takes 57mm reach brakes. Again, why the finish on their bikes needs to be so bleepin ugly is what turns me off. :lol: That and their ugly logo. :P
Redline is a pretty straight up company that started with BMX back in in the mid-70s, so them making a sane SS makes perfect sense. They made teh first tubular bmx fork, back in 75 afaik.
it could well be their finish which puts me off, but even with a class paint job i cant help but think id take the redline - it looks fantastic.
Heres one for ya, a SS cxbike for $599 :shock:
http://www.irocycle.com/id11.html
check out the curved stays:
(http://www.irocycle.com/imagelib/robroybikeT.jpg)
its got no pedals
Quote from: kinkybiatchits got no pedals
:panic:
Quote from: BadabingQuote from: kinkybiatchits got no pedals
:panic:
:0hnoes: :stupid:
Pfffft at pedals. Real men/cyclists just shove a coachbolt through their ankle and attach their legs to the crank arms.
Oh, and Ive called the shop to check on sizing and lead times. Me wants a nice big 60cm jobber. Theyll be getting back to me this afternoon. :ptu:
I gotta get some touch up paint and make the Brodie purty for sale. Took a timer shot of it last night and "painted" it with a lamp as flash+black shows invisible flaws.
(http://static.flickr.com/66/228318723_2fee83bd40_o.jpg)
ahhh that does look a pretty bike to be sure.
Im asking $600 non-nig, which I think is fair for a bike with 1K, and perfectly tuned bits, including destressed wheels, regreased and ajdusted hubs, and a drivetrain you could eat off of, lubed with wax. List is $800, but youd have to import from Canada, as I did. Im hoping to get some more boudoir shots of it after I wax and touch up a couple paint chips. That way itll make some poor soul rock hard, and theyll have no choice but to call me. :D :D
im still surprised you went for a bike like that in the first place, to be honest. Dont get me wrong, its a nice bit of kit, but for pure on-the-road riding, you cant beat the understated looks and the simple-but-effective design of the redline/on-ones [or bikes of that ilk.] Youre right on price - its been bedded in, looked after and no doubt youve ironed out any post production creaks and rattles... so itll be in better shape than when it left the shop.
good luck with the sale.
http://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/200411136.html
What I really wanted was something less brainspacey like my old city bike with a Nexus hub. Sturdy frame, fenders, and a rack from hell would finish it off. Weight is a non issue. Fixed gear isnt exactly a Nexus, but its simple. ;)
p.s. ive never seen such a flamboyantly penned advert for a bike...
I thought you were selling the bike, not interviewing would-be candidates! :drama:
I flip bikes all the time on craigslist, usually flipping them in 24 hours. When you write something like, "good for poets, and other math challenged romantics, but not recommended for the sensitivity challenged" you make people think that buying said object makes them special. Trust me, Ive sold a sh*tload of stuff on craigslist, and you have to work the angle as its used by a lot of arty types. :lol:
Quote from: maximusotterI flip bikes all the time on craigslist, usually flipping them in 24 hours. When you write something like, "good for poets, and other math challenged romantics, but not recommended for the sensitivity challenged" you make people think that buying said object makes them special. Trust me, Ive sold a sh*tload of stuff on craigslist, and you have to work the angle as its used by a lot of arty types. :lol:
i ask myself, are people
really that shallow? :hunf:
Yup. I sold that KHS with language that stated that recommended headgear was a beret, and learning to shout phrases in Italian and French would greatly enhance the riding experience. :lol: Got a frantic call that night from a girl who HAD to have it. :D
And to be honest, its a very original bike in this part of the world. Nothing like it in the shops, so the thought of some douchebag vandy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderbilt_University) kid getting it stolen for a crack rock makes me wanna hurl.
Quote from: maximusotterYup. I sold that KHS with language that stated that recommended headgear was a beret, and learning to shout phrases in Italian and French would greatly enhance the riding experience. :lol: Got a frantic call that night from a girl who HAD to have it. :D
i hope you mean the bike, old chap.
Quote from: maximusotterso the thought of some douchebag vandy kid getting it stolen for a crack rock makes me wanna hurl.
nature of the beast unfortunately, i owned a beautiful alu rock lobster when i was at uni, which i sold to buy my Chameleon - it was bought by a Malaysian student who only weeks later had it nicked... i felt like fracturing his skull, as i knew some scroat would be throwing it around, and generally abusing the f*ck out of it... :(
Yeah, my last bike, which was one of perhaps two of that model sold in Chicago, was likely traded for a crack rock. If I ever catch one in the act, I will divot their body like Tiger Woods.
On a flip note, I did a quickie spreadsheet seeing what such a bike would cost me to build, lets say, with an IRO (http://www.irocycle.com/framesets.html) frame. Total came to $800! :shock: Thats using bargain bits as well. I seriously dont understand how Redline can sell it at that price point.
Example of shallow: first response to the bike this morning is, "how much does it weight?". Now is that the most important question for a bike thats a beer and egg fetcher? Morons. My response, "It weighs what a quality bike with full accessories weighs, youre welcome to weigh it on my deli scale, but Id suggest riding the thing and seeing if it fits instead."
Dumb ASSES!
Quote from: maximusotterExample of shallow: first response to the bike this morning is, "how much does it weight?". Now is that the most important question for a bike thats a beer and egg fetcher? Morons. My response, "It weighs what a quality bike with full accessories weighs, youre welcome to weigh it on my deli scale, but Id suggest riding the thing and seeing if it fits instead."
Dumb ASSES!
i didnt know snellgrove had moved to the states...
Trying not to...... :rofl:
I edited the posting and used the
roflmao :)
Just got off the phone with the Jolly Cyclist--the most kuntry bike shop in town, and the Redline dealer (awesome folks, I trust people more if they eat cornbread) and all sizes are available with a 2 week lead time. Cool :ptu: I just love it when a bike shop answers the phone with a hearty drawl, "Jawlee Cyclist, how yew?" as opposed to some hipster that seems like youve woken him from a slumber.