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This is getting pretty popular round here with the punk rock Jesus freak vegetarian set. :lol:




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Quote from: maximusotterThis is getting pretty popular round here with the punk rock Jesus freak vegetarian set. :lol:

destroy it at once...

I think hes just trying to prove Max wrong about helmets by increasing the height-to-fall factor and guarantee brain trauma ;)

We cyclists shun your red light system.
We must go straight through.  Were like ramblers across a permissive access field.

Quote from: niHow does he stop at traffic lights without falling over?  :shock:

traffic lights are for girls and pansies...

FACT.

Ill be honest, cocks who think they can crash lights because theyre on a bike really piss me off.  I have had two crashes and numerous near misses because some stupid bint or other cycles straight accross a junction or cycle crossing while Im just pulling out.  Idiots.

I treat stop signs and lights as "yields". Id never even think about cutting somebody off, but if its all clear, I see no reason to clip out, as its more dangerous for cyclists to sit at congested intersections. Might as well get out of there when the goings good. I do slow down to walking pace. Mind, Im the sort of rider, that when theres any sort of congestion, I fall into vehicle mode, take the lane, and follow the law to a T. Its called being a realist. Same reason I find no need to wear a foam yarmulke round town as the lastest figures show that you have to ride 450 human lives 24/7 to suffer a fatal head injury. I dont mind a few stitches from time to time as opposed to being one of those guys that gets a small dent in his beanie and suddenly becomes a styrofoam evangelical.

Stopping at lights with such a tall rig is easy, just slide forward off the saddle. With the ones with a crossbar, you can slide back and wheelie it. They often have pegs in back for mounting, like the old highwheeler. Surprised that this is new stuff to yall. Been real popular in the US amongst the indie/emo crowd for years. :lol:

Quote from: maximusotterSame reason I find no need to wear a foam yarmulke round town as the lastest figures show that you have to ride 450 human lives 24/7 to suffer a fatal head injury. I dont mind a few stitches from time to time as opposed to being one of those guys that gets a small dent in his beanie and suddenly becomes a styrofoam evangelical.

99% of statistics are b*ll*cks.

Helmets save lives, ive got a mother and many friends and relatives who are/were A&E nurses and doctors; the amount of head injuries caused by cycle accidents was alot when my mum was an A&E specialist and even more now, helmets save lives... and that is a fact. I made a joke about jumping traffic lights but things like helmets are a necessity...

I regularly get the piss taken out of me by friends who say, "you look like a bit of a prat with that helmet on" my reply is simple:

"id look even sillier on a life support machine".

and this is coming from someone who has stacked it alot and has had some big hits to the head.

I stop at traffic lights.

Gives you a good excuse to rest :lol:

Sometimes I love nothing more than seeing a red light when on my bike!

Yawn. Helmets reduce your impact by 3mph and prevent lacerations. ER folks see cyclists come in with shattered lids and falsely think that the thing saved the cyclists life. Bullsh*t. It reduced injury slightly, thats all. Ive heard teh "my friends an ER doc" pile of dogsh*t so many times, it makes me gag. Bicycle helmets are not motorcycle helmets. For a bike helmet to be effective enough to be a true miracle worker, it would be so cumbersome as to be unusable.

I remember back in the 80s when I was a teen, when I first started road riding with an amateur racer. We wore caps for the most part and were very disciplined in our peloton skills, as it seemed quite logical that if you ride safely and predictably, it not only looks tight and pro, its safer. These days cycling is no longer a fringe activity, and peoples first accessory is always a *met, yet cycling skills and discipline have fallen into the toilet.

Cycling deaths have stayed level with miles traveled, with a few increases in places like New Zealand, since the 70s. Yet helmet use is almost ubiquitous in some places. How can that be??

Remember folks, a helmet can preven lacerations of the scalp, and reduces impact by 3mph. Thats it. It does not prevent facial injury, broken jaws, arms, punctured spleens, broken legs, shattered hips, dislocated shoulder, or road rash. I also seems to not work against severed fingers, smashed rib cages, and contusions of the buttocks. Ive never seen one help with a collarbone injury or spine fracture. Perhaps Im crazy or perhaps Im a realist that understands that cycling is a safe activity when you make it that way, not because you wear one single small piece of protective gear.

Helmets are great for your 3 year old that tips off the tricycle and bumps his head, but when Im descending and wipe out at 35mph, hitting a tractor trailer head first, it simply delays my concussion and probably death by 0.01 second. :lol:

My scars are teh sex. :mrgreen:

For what its worth, Ive cracked a couple mets when I messengered. The way I tumbled both times, you could say that it prevented stitches, or you could speculate that the thickness of the thing caused contact in the first place. My first thought wasnt OMG its magic! More like, f***, now my asshole boss is gonna charge me for another ugly burgundy lid. :lol:

When not messengering, I tend to fall about once every 20K. Almost always is a traction issue in the spring or fall. Usually it means a purple hip and a sore wrist.

Quote from: maximusotterHelmets are great for your 3 year old that tips off the tricycle and bumps his head, but when Im descending and wipe out at 35mph, hitting a tractor trailer head first, it simply delays my concussion and probably death by 0.01 second. :lol:

Shot yourself in the foot there....

"i want to be retro and cool", name me the last fatality in le tour and tell me what he died of.... ive seen first hand one person die from brain damage in london after a bike crash, [at the scene - blood pissing out of her ears] and i know of another two who were severly brain damaged... both commuting to work.

Djamolodine Abdujaparovs life was saved by a helmet when he skywards in his epic crash - the damage to his helmet was what would have gone through to his brain - thats a fact.

I cannot believe you are telling me if you come off a bike you have equal chance of surviving with or without a helmet on... thats nonsense - they can take a large amount of impact - which otherwise would go through the skull...

"im a man - i dont have to wear a helmet, blah, blah" - if were playing this game, i reckon im the toughest bloke on these forums and i have the biggest dick too.... seriously, but thats puerile and a bit chest beaty, isnt it?

Name me one organ apart from the brain which if severly damaged does not fully heal or can cause death by direct impact, broken jaw? dont be soft, a fractured cheek bone - youll live... direct impact to the breathing centres, youre f*cked... but hey, what are the chances of that happening... NO ONE has ever died from brain damage, have they?

Spleens, lungs, bones all heal - direct impact to the brain is alot more serious than a ruptured spleen... and the brain is less likely to recover.

If you dont want to wear a helmet, thats you perogative, dont preach to others though, that is just plain dumb - because while you are obviously made of steel, some mere mortal may just need a little bit more help...





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Oh yeah, some of the cyclists around here think Im some anti cycling Nazi and are a bit freaked when they see me spandexed up. :lol: Its one thing to glide through a four way intersection, its another when a cars already stopped and about to go. :shock: I usually pull up a couple meters behind them and honk my horn to scare the beJaysus out of them, then voice my concern. :lol: Of course Im selective in who I do this to, if theyve got team kit and are going under 15mph, theyre prime targets. :twisted: If somebody takes a spill, then well just have to call it negative reenforcement. :twisted:

Badabing, its like the motorbiker who wants to ride with the wind in their hair or the car driver who hates seatbelts, you are never going to convince any of them that they are better off doing the right thing ;)

I have a helmet, but I dont tend to wear it.

Probably should do with my riding :D

Vertical FTW!

Two guys are doing a "round the coast" cycle on tall bikes over here.

How in the hell do they get on them though?!

Quote from: SeriousBadabing, its like the motorbiker who wants to ride with the wind in their hair or the car driver who hates seatbelts, you are never going to convince any of them that they are better off doing the right thing ;)

F*ck your stupid cretin logic. Are you going to just play the idiot sheep like everybody else? There are statistics that prove that seatbelt usage and motorcycle helmet usage greatly reduce death. There are NO stats like that for cycling. Indeed, for every statistic showing a slight drop in head injury thats pro-foamie, theres another statistic showing that mandatory helmet use is linked to more cycing deaths, as they take the focus away from responsible riding. Trying to link bicycle helmets, seat belts, and motorbike helmets, is a true product of a hysterical facile mind.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adTwo guys are doing a "round the coast" cycle on tall bikes over here.

How in the hell do they get on them though?!

One leg at a time. :lol:

With the ones with a tall cross bar, they usually weld pegs in back for mounting.

Quote from: maximusotterF*ck your stupid cretin logic.

What a well balanced, well thought out statement...

I suggest you have a lie down and stop drinking coffee, youre getting far too wound up...


and by the way, youre arguement is contrived to f*ck, its not even logical, but as ive said, its your perogative... IF you HONESTLY think youre going to convince people to NOT wear a crash helmet, you are having a laugh... IT DOES NO HARM to wear one and at the end of the day the odds of surviving any impact are only going to be increased by wearing one...

Youre on a retro crusade - "look at me im different", well done, youre cool...

Except studies have shown that some rotational injuries and back injuries are related to cycle helmets. So technically harm has and could be done by wearing one.

Quote from: M3ta7h3adExcept studies have shown that some rotational injuries and back injuries are related to cycle helmets. So technically harm has and could be done by wearing one.

look, wear a helmet or dont wear a helmet, the chances are it could save your life, but if youre not convinced, fine... just dont go round trying to persuade people not to do something which in all fairness could save their life...

...this is all down to vanity, it wont affect performance etc. by wearing one, and it wont do anyharm either... its all looks and im tough enough not to bother about iffy looks...

I, for one, am not stupid enough to pay $100 for a piece of questionable polystyrene that makes me more susceptible to heat stroke in my tropical summers. It s not vanity, its logic. A traditional short brimmed cycling cap is a great use of cotton, as it keeps the sweat from dripping off, instead using it to cool the scalp and keep the core temperature down. All a helmet does is soak up the sweat into its pads, occasionally dumping it into your face and burning your eyes. Woo woo.

Wearing the helmet is vain, as its succumbing to the myth that cycling is a dangerous activity or being too scared of criticism. Its sheer idiotic tokenism.

Ive been yelled at by bike shop employees that I know very casually when out riding, "WHERES YOUR HELMET?!" Worse than Hare Krishnas. I usually stop the bike, throttle them, and ask them "Where the f*ck is your ability to mind your own f*cking business?"*

What the helmet worshippers have done, is the same as W. has done with his war in Iraq--completely changed the debate into something toothless and irrelevent. Youve invaded Mexico to fight gum disease. Nobody talks about paceline discipline like they used to. Nope, its all irrelevant since we got the might Helmut!

Helmut can cure impotence, lift breasts, and leaven biscuits. Its safe for the whole family to use, and makes a crunchy dessert topping. Helmut is only sold on TV, beware of imitators.

[sing]It walks down stairs, it kills brown bears, it makes you look like a chump. Its HELMUT, its HEL-MUT. Fun for a girl and a boy, but really its just a toy. [/sing]

*dont attempt unless youre a meaty bald Swede or a suitable equivalent.

seeing as i kiteboard,


helmets save your face.
full face helmets prevent your teeth going down your throat.


whats Ã,£30 compared to Ã,£1091 for dental work to replace your chewers? not to mention eating soup for weeks.

The seatbelt comparison is irrelevant. Bike helmets are made to survive a 3 foot drop onto concrete. They have all sorts of points and textures which cause the head to be grabbed. If you want to wear something effective, get a 1200g motorbike helmet with a smooth, hard shell. Something of that sort would make a difference. The current 200g models are helmets in name only, for moderate crashes that involve more sliding than impact, youd be better served by a Cinelli hairnet, as its more compact.

The meme "bike helmets save lives" is more aptly, "bike helmets might have saved a few lives, but annoyed millions." :lol:

If youre a klutz and tend to fall over on the bike path at 5mph, then by all means wear one.