step 1  Ride hard for a few hours in the mud and sheep sh*t, so bike is covered in crap.

step 2 get home, blast with X-lite Muc Off or similar and water.

step 3 degrease chain.

step 4 lube chain.

FINITO.

on geared bike id be f*cking about with the drivetrain for a few hours aftewards - the trails near me killed the mechs and sprockets - as its thick clay laided mud etc. which also has nasty particulates like sand in too...

though my little legs did feel it slightly afterwards, SS is the way to go! do you hear me!?

AND AND AND AND AND AND

Im still amazed how good 29" wheels are on a mountain bike... again, they are the way to go! do you hear me!?

With a such a value, the Rohloff upgrade will seem like peanuts:

having just googled, i may give it a miss....

i was seeing quotes for nearing 700 quid, for a non-disc hub build, is that right?!

yup. If I was to get back into mtbing, Id likely save up for one. Pretty much all reviews state the same thing: expensive, heavy, and theyll have to pry it from their cold dead hands. Supposedly indestructable, so if you keep it for a decade, even with bike changes, its quite affordable. Initial cost does indeed sting.  :shock:

it sort of defeats the purpose of singlespeeding though, its addiding complexity and weight to a sea of tranquility and rustic style...

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yup. If I was to get back into mtbing, Id likely save up for one. Pretty much all reviews state the same thing: expensive, heavy, and theyll have to pry it from their cold dead hands. Supposedly indestructable, so if you keep it for a decade, even with bike changes, its quite affordable. Initial cost does indeed sting.  :shock:

it sort of defeats the purpose of singlespeeding though, its addiding complexity and weight to a sea of tranquility and rustic style...

And remember folks with single speed you dont have to tax your brain trying to work out which gear you should be in

thats a good point, especially on undulating terrain. alot of the time on the old machine i had it on the middle gearing and left it that way... alot of noobs f*ck about with gears, changing to the "easy gears" on the hills and vice versa - this affects momentum and you can find yourself constantly titting about trying to find the right gear and there is always the problem of chains skipping, on a SS you learn how to carry speed in order to get up hills etc. - it teaches you how to use momentum more and concentrate on the terrain.