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Started by Binary Shadow, March 28, 2007, 12:02:36 PM

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Mark

the citroen c2 diesel does like 70mpg, heck the AX diesel does 70 mpg and has been known to do over that - and thats about 15 years old FFS

The prius is a joke.

Where did my cavalier/calibra cornering comment go?

Beaker

a Mates Mother has a Prius, he borrowed it to go down to London for something, he said his 1.9TD Audi cost him the same amount to run, and its got more guts.

Mark

our ceo has the lexus suv 400h - 2 electric motors and an engine = 29mpg at BEST

Eggtastico

Quote from: Beakera Mates Mother has a Prius, he borrowed it to go down to London for something, he said his 1.9TD Audi cost him the same amount to run, and its got more guts.

A prius comes into its own in Urban driving..thats when it uses electric.

I get upto 600miles on a full tank in my Car. Volvo S60 2.4 Diesel

SteveF

Theres a couple of things this author overlooked. His points

1) Other cars are almost as good as the Prius using the revised standards when you consider energy consumption at motorway driving speeds of 80mph and fast acceleration.  The general point is most car pollution comes from the stop start nature of in town driving and not motorway driving.  In this area the Prius and hybrids do excel because they still use the battery in this range.

2) Nickel is used in the batteries of the Prius and its production is nasty.  Well yes it is nasty producing nickel but Id be suprised if you took every battery in the entire world ever and added up all of the nickel used and it came to 1% of the nickel extracted from the earth.  What uses nickel is steel.  Hell, coins alone must use hundreds of times more nickel than the world uses in battery plates.  Is nickel bad?  Yes.  Does the fact car batteries use a tiny bit of Nickel in them make any noticeably difference? I really doubt it.  Does the Hummer require more Nickel for steel components than the Prius battery does? more than likely.

3) Dust to Dust study - Not having heard of this its hard to directly comment.  But theres one glaringly obvious problem with the numbers theyre using.  There cost of operation is working on the basis of US gas prices.  The USs petrol prices are too low and only increasing.  The point of hybrids is that they are a work around for the rising cost and lack of availability of petrol.  The major running cost of a hummer is petrol.  Petrol prices rise...  I think we can see where this is going.




That article is like saying I bought my jet fighter without a coat of paint so its more environmentally friendly than a canoe.  Making paint is horrible and the damage to the environment in both its production and its disposal is terrible.  The canoe has paint on it, it is responsible for everything the paint manufacturing process does and therefore bad.  :)

Pete

Toyota Prius mpg: 456456.

Hummer mpg: 2.

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case closed. Buy the hummer, its way more fun.
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.