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32gb ssd enough for bootdrive ?

Started by chaotic_uk, February 17, 2011, 01:28:55 AM

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chaotic_uk

is a 32gb ssd enough for windows 7 64bit bootdrive ?

matt5cott

Yes, just, but you won't be able to put much of the way in additional software on it, which is half of the point tbh  :thumbdown:

Shaun

I would imagine it would get a bit annoying after a month or 2 having that little space to play with :(

chaotic_uk

got 2x 1tb drives for storage etc , just installed a 32gb "OCZ Onyx Series SATA II 2.5" SSD" .
boot times are less than half that of the 1tb drive , not much space left so i will have to move the pagefile .
tbh even though this only cost £40  the performance has supprised me for one of the entry level ssd's , looking forward on getting a larger faster drive to put a few games on

http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-onyx-series-sata-ii-2-5-ssd.html

Clock'd 0Ne

I thought they generally advised keeping swap files and the like of frequently changed/large files on standard hard drives and just putting software/static files onto SSD for the best speed?

Or has that changed with the TRIM command? I would have thought it would make more sense anyway, let the SSD fly through files at top speed and paged memory can be dealt with by a swapfile on the regular disk.

matt5cott

on my 64GB I have 2 games (Dead space 2 and Civ 5)  windows 7 64 bit, and light apps (NO photoshop or even office!) and have 5GB free space  :panic:

chaotic_uk

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on February 17, 2011, 15:07:53 PM
I thought they generally advised keeping swap files and the like of frequently changed/large files on standard hard drives and just putting software/static files onto SSD for the best speed?

thats what i intend on doing ;) , just need to find the best way of doing things in windows 7 . it's a little differant compaired to vista and xp which i am used to

XEntity

For best performance (If you have lots of RAM) you can create a RAM disk and mount the swap file and temp files there!

chaotic_uk

and how would i manage that in win7 64bit ? , i have 8gb of ram is this enough ? .

just moved the pagefile to my d-drive and freed up over 8gb of space , windows folder is now only 12.4gb in size instead of 24.2gb

Clock'd 0Ne

I wouldn't even consider the ramdisk idea unless I had at least 12Gb of RAM (for Windows 7 at least as it does eat RAM for breakfast), but that's just me and my 24x7 heavy app use.

XEntity

Especially if your RAM disk was using 8GB! Leave it on your other hard disk and it'll be fine ;)

Mongoose

Quote from: XEntity on February 17, 2011, 15:37:03 PM
For best performance (If you have lots of RAM) you can create a RAM disk and mount the swap file and temp files there!

OK I presume this works because I know you know what you're talking about, but isn't putting swap on a RAMdisk somewhat counter-intuitive?  ie you're using up RAM to make somewhere to put stuff when you run out of RAM? or is my understanding of how swap works just insanely naive?


Clock'd 0Ne

My understanding of swap files is that they are a data store for the least recent/least fetched items that want to reside in memory, also I think your swap file is supposed to be 1.5 times your phsyical memory to allow enough additional swap space and prevent problems addressing it all? Unless you had massive amounts of memory for your given apps/OS I don't see how this would work reliably either.

Cypher

Personally my eyes are set on a 64GB Crucial RealSSD C300 for my next build.

I think 32 would be a bare minimum for your OS, apps and some breathing space.  If you are going to SSD, at least try and get what is right for you.

knighty

page file.....

I turned mine off years and years ago - ever since I moved up to 8gig of ram

and I've never had any problems at all :-)

(must be 5+ years now)