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Title: Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 11, 2006, 01:03:39 AM
Wow, Gritty or what, really cool first two episodes of the series.
This, lost, smallville, stargate, atlantis to come this Heros where its a cross between xmen, real life now and a sci fi series, only seen trailers and clips on the web looks good.

Some really good shows around, quite a few others that are looking good as well.
Title: Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Russell on October 11, 2006, 08:01:25 AM
Yeah its started off really well again, watched the pilot again on Monday just cause its such good tv.  Am trying to get a guy at work to watch the pilot but he hasnt yet, he musnt believe me how good it really is.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: mrt on October 11, 2006, 08:44:16 AM
A mate of mine has just started watching season 3 ... and recommended that I watch it.  Now, would you say that I could pick it up from Season 3 ... or would it be better to start from season 1?
Title: Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Leon on October 11, 2006, 09:52:10 AM
OMG ITS OUT!?!?! I NEED!!

something for me to watch when i get home :)
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Russell on October 11, 2006, 11:24:27 AM
Quote from: mrtA mate of mine has just started watching season 3 ... and recommended that I watch it.  Now, would you say that I could pick it up from Season 3 ... or would it be better to start from season 1?

Youve really got to watch it right from the pilot, yeah its a fair bit tv but trust me you wont be disapointed at all.  If you jump into season 3 now chances are youll just get yourself confused and itll seem crap.

Just watch it, you know you want to  :thumbup:
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Quixoticish on October 11, 2006, 12:53:48 PM
Best show on TV at the moment. I was a huge fan of the original BSG so didnt think much of this when I heard about it "Starbuck is a GIRL?!" But I watched the pilot episode DVD that has been edited into a feature film and it was riveting viewing. I then purchased Season 1 and watched the episodes back to back, and Ive recently done the same with Season 2. I was expecting more generic brainless crap like Lost, Smallville, Stargate etc (sorry Nexus  ;) ) but am very glad I was proven wrong.

I think Ronald D Moores direction is simply stunning, it is everything Star Trek Voyager should have been. Thankfully weve seen the death of the Star Trek reset button in the new BSG.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 11, 2006, 16:15:47 PM
Quote from: Chris HBest show on TV at the moment. I was a huge fan of the original BSG so didnt think much of this when I heard about it "Starbuck is a GIRL?!" But I watched the pilot episode DVD that has been edited into a feature film and it was riveting viewing. I then purchased Season 1 and watched the episodes back to back, and Ive recently done the same with Season 2. I was expecting more generic brainless crap like Lost, Smallville, Stargate etc (sorry Nexus  ;) ) but am very glad I was proven wrong.

I think Ronald D Moores direction is simply stunning, it is everything Star Trek Voyager should have been. Thankfully weve seen the death of the Star Trek reset button in the new BSG.

Thing that worries me is that it will cost to much to expand and make even more new cool features and actors pay rises and Sci-Fi as they do all the time then can it in its prime, Just like Firefly (canned it really before even giving it a chance due to them not wanting to spend the cash on it) and Space above and beyond as only two examples.
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Post by: Quixoticish on October 11, 2006, 16:25:55 PM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Chris HBest show on TV at the moment. I was a huge fan of the original BSG so didnt think much of this when I heard about it "Starbuck is a GIRL?!" But I watched the pilot episode DVD that has been edited into a feature film and it was riveting viewing. I then purchased Season 1 and watched the episodes back to back, and Ive recently done the same with Season 2. I was expecting more generic brainless crap like Lost, Smallville, Stargate etc (sorry Nexus  ;) ) but am very glad I was proven wrong.

I think Ronald D Moores direction is simply stunning, it is everything Star Trek Voyager should have been. Thankfully weve seen the death of the Star Trek reset button in the new BSG.

Thing that worries me is that it will cost to much to expand and make even more new cool features and actors pay rises and Sci-Fi as they do all the time then can it in its prime, Just like Firefly (canned it really before even giving it a chance due to them not wanting to spend the cash on it) and Space above and beyond as only two examples.

I often make parallels between this and Space: Above and Beyond as that is possibly the only other Sci-Fi series I really compare to BSG. I do also worry about the money running out, but that said I also want them to quit while they are ahead and concentrate on spin-offs or movies or something else in their own BSG canon rather than flog a dead horse. Perhaps another few series.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Cypher on October 11, 2006, 16:32:15 PM
I rather enjoyed the season opener, didnt dissapoint.  A very dark episode though I must say.

Quote from: mrtA mate of mine has just started watching season 3 ... and recommended that I watch it.  Now, would you say that I could pick it up from Season 3 ... or would it be better to start from season 1?

You dont have to watch it from the star, but I think you would find it easier to understand some concepts and certain characters if you watch it from the start.  Pilot & Season 1 is cheap enough on DVD.  Season 2 has just come out and is rather pricey atm.

Quote from: neXusThing that worries me is that it will cost to much to expand and make even more new cool features and actors pay rises and Sci-Fi as they do all the time then can it in its prime, Just like Firefly (canned it really before even giving it a chance due to them not wanting to spend the cash on it) and Space above and beyond as only two examples.

Funnily enough the Pegasus set is just the scrapped Firefly project set with a touch of hammer and paint.

/Edit, it was from the scrapped pilot for the Lost In Space series, not firefly.

It was out of their budget to build another set.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 11, 2006, 17:26:44 PM
Nice bit of info that, And if they had both running they would have money for nice new sets.

Now that Stargate has ended (for now) maybe they will put money back into some of the things they stoped (IE firefly) Since they wont sell to that inderpendent film company who want to take it up for season 2 maybe they are just milking the cancel waiting for the funds to come back in
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 11, 2006, 19:44:54 PM
Interesting this read here:
People have denied things before and the deal happerns the next day so ignore that tbh
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=2&id=38567

Just holds water to me that although the sci-fi channel has had some amazing shows its far to into the money and has no care for any fan base. It is a company and there to make money but i get the sence that the they have and allways will have a fixed budget to profit ratio they will never change even if a show is doing well or not and thats sad.

Title: Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 18, 2006, 03:04:47 AM
Episode 3 part one of two. Very gritty once again, edge of sofa bed stuff as to how the crossroad points turn out throughout, part 2 is well set up and will have all the action.
Cool
Apperently moved from Monday To Friday now as well.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Cypher on October 18, 2006, 13:14:49 PM
They allways have been fridays.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Russell on October 18, 2006, 15:59:30 PM
Quote from: CypherThey allways have been fridays.

And its a shame there only on Fridays, they need to me on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays.

So far its been brilliant imo, I cant wait for this weeks with the way the last episode built it up.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 19, 2006, 01:26:09 AM
I think Sci Fi big wigs thinking that its costing them to much money and wanting it canned

11:30 US time is a little late and viewing figures are a little low in the us and tbh I think it is becuase of the time slot.

Space above and beyond 12am-1am US and 1am-2am UK time they had that on all the time trying to have a reason to can it.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Russell on October 19, 2006, 08:18:59 AM
Quote from: neXusI think Sci Fi big wigs thinking that its costing them to much money and wanting it canned

11:30 US time is a little late and viewing figures are a little low in the us and tbh I think it is becuase of the time slot.

Space above and beyond 12am-1am US and 1am-2am UK time they had that on all the time trying to have a reason to can it.

They really are stupid arent they, I mean who in there right mind would put what is known to be a good show that people like, and they have the viewing figures in the past to prove it, that late at night when most people are in bed or at least heading that way.  And why? So they can bung on some repeats or something.

It really gets my goat when they do this sort of thing because it just doesnt make any sense at all.  Now if only I had as  much money as Bill Gates, Id buy the sci-fi channel and sort it out.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Quixoticish on October 19, 2006, 12:59:45 PM
I think BSG has such a large following that if Sci-Fi dropped it someone else would pick it up. There is far too much money in it to let it drop.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Cypher on October 19, 2006, 13:16:29 PM
Quote from: neXus11:30 US time is a little late and viewing figures are a little low in the us and tbh I think it is becuase of the time slot..

Try 9/8c (9pm Eastern time/ 8pm Central).  Not 11:30.

It was 10/11c when Atlantis and SG-1 are showing as part of Sci-Fi friday and Gallactica followed afterwards.  When they resume I imagine it will take that slot again.

Personally I think your letting your imagination run ahead of itself with the whole being canned thing.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: BigSoy on October 19, 2006, 14:05:51 PM
The numbers are all that counts - if they arent getting the figures and hence the advertising revenue, it might get canned, if they are making a good return on investment then chances are it will continue.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Cypher on October 19, 2006, 14:24:46 PM
It has had good ratings so far.

http://www.gateworld.net/galactica/news/2006/10/season_three_premieres_with_strong_ratings.shtml#

Where nexus is getting all this low ratings, 11pm slot, its going to be canned is anyones guess.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 19, 2006, 16:03:30 PM
Sci-fi main us site and actual listed times
and
http://savestargatesg1.com/news/?p=443#comments
several other links also report a drop and some put it down to the time slot

This weeks is at 9 but last friday it was on 11:30

As for time and drops, 4 top sci-fi shows had the same problem where because sci-fi did not think for what ever reason it would work out they move to poor and more awkward time slots. Startgate they actually tried, firefly they did from the get go as when they got the budgit costs straight the way they tried to stop the season even being finished.

Apperently it seems there is a big campaign to get the two main guys of sci-fi removed. I cant find the link I read the other night but there were leaks of their earnings and personal profits compared to funding and basically they are lumping it in

Though battlestar will not get canned sci-fi are pissing of Sky since they have money invested in that show and apperent arguments (sky forums) about showings in the us have been around between the two.

Sky taking up stargate though from http://savestargatesg1.com is actually a good idea and there are other top new channels In america, smallville being on rebranded "the CW" for example would be a good place to host the show.

And its odd There has been a few approaches for season 2 firefly to be on other companies and channels but Sci-fi would not release the rights they have, Also Farscape had similar approaches and again Sci-fi holding out and  the mini series to end it nearly did not go ahead.

There is a big deep rooted anouance from viewers with regard to sci-fi US and many a site with information around.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Kunal on October 21, 2006, 15:50:44 PM
Just watched 3x04 Exodus Pt2...

 :shock:  Probably one of the greatest BG eps Ive ever seen. I wont mention any particulars yet but suffice to say its got some pretty big developments!
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Post by: Kunal on October 21, 2006, 15:53:21 PM
Also about SG1..

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/061013a.php

QuoteMGM has granted a green light -- and enough money -- to produce two "Stargate: SG-1" movies, most likely for DVD, executive producer Brad Wright tells TV Guide.

The first flick will tie up most of the finales loose threads -- "Its the climax of the Ori story line" -- and will be written-directed by exec producer Robert Cooper. The second film, penned by Wright, will involve time travel, and both projects should debut in the fall of 2007.

Though no deals are signed, SG-1s stars are said to be "very eager" to continue. "Theyre not big-budget [films] by any definition, but for us its pretty good. As weve proven over the years, just give us little more money and we can make pretty good television, or DVDs" says Wright.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 22, 2006, 11:22:36 AM
Back On topic, Episode 4 - WOW that was just really cool episode

TBH battlestar is one of the most real (if you get me) scifi shows ever done and is very stylish and gritty, its just 10/10 for me
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on October 23, 2006, 21:42:32 PM
Lol at song: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?cat=features&vid=35344
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: Cypher on October 24, 2006, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: neXusNice bit of info that, And if they had both running they would have money for nice new sets.

Made a correction to my post.  It wasnt the firefly set is was a set from a scrapped pilot from what going to be a Lost In Space television series.  It was dropped by Fox.

Just came accross the video blog that I remembered if from in the first place.

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/blog/

"Introducing the Pegasus & The Blackbird"

Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: FaT LeoN on November 01, 2006, 02:32:30 AM
How do they work out the viewing figures?  :?
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Post by: Serious on November 01, 2006, 03:16:26 AM
either ask some people and use statistics or pay some people so they can spy on their TV useage.
Title: Re:Battlestar Galatica season 3 [May contain Spoliers]
Post by: neXus on November 04, 2006, 01:38:36 AM
I have to say, this is probably the best sci-fi series I have watched since firefly in terms of enjoyment and wanting more.
Episode 4 was really exciting with the escape and galatica coming down from the sky etc.
Episode 5 was really well written really gritty, the story was outstanding at how it dealt with the so call traitors, you would think they may let off or be caught in the act when the guy is about to be ejected out the tunnel, but no out he goes.
Even overcrowding existed and people were broken.
I cant wait to see where they take the series.

I really hope this has some legs in it and they get at least 2 more series out of it. They have to get to earth and you cant stretch that to much and as the original one had it went to crap when they got there.
I do not know how you would handle them getting to earth but it could be interesting.

Good stuff tbh, this and lost at the moment as cheered me up when I have failed to sleep due to my hand.

Side note:
If you are able watch the latest episode of south park season 10, cartman and wanting a wii, lol.

BUCK FTW!
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Post by: Cypher on November 04, 2006, 12:27:10 PM
Quote from: neXusI really hope this has some legs in it and they get at least 2 more series out of it. They have to get to earth and you cant stretch that to much and as the original one had it went to crap when they got there.

I personally dont think they will find Earth.  Thats not what the series has been about, its been about the journey rather than the destination.

Its all up to Ron Moore really.