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CPU, Mobo and Memory please

Started by Adrock, January 26, 2012, 02:27:52 AM

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Bacon

Quote from: Adrock on February 03, 2012, 13:03:09 PM
Jesus christ, That cooler is stupidly big  :o

My next worry is will this stuff fit in a midi tower or am I looking at buying a new case too? I never realised how big the coolers were.

You might well need a new case depending on the clearance your case has :P
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Adrock

Ah sh*t, why is it always just a small upgrade but ends up the whole hog. I'm gonna have to invent some form of cloak to make a full size case look like my midi tower to the wife's eyes.

All this just so I can play some PS2 and Wii games on a pc. There is a fault in my logic somewhere.

knighty

I think you should be ok with a midi case....

my little brother has the same NH-D14 as Shaun and it fits no problem.... it does depend a bit on which exact case you have.... but I think most should be ok :-)

Adrock

At least a case can be had cheaply and it wont affect the performance of the pc, cooling withstanding. Its something I can tell the missus I simply MUST have as the new mobo/cpu/cooler dont fit into the old case.

If I play dumb I may have a chance.......

Bacon

Quote from: Adrock on February 03, 2012, 13:27:15 PM
At least a case can be had cheaply and it wont affect the performance of the pc, cooling withstanding. Its something I can tell the missus I simply MUST have as the new mobo/cpu/cooler dont fit into the old case.

If I play dumb I may have a chance.......

Thermaltake Dokker is what i use and it has a SATA dock in the top of it built in, the only problem is that you cant use the top drive bay cus the dock cable sticks in the way, i cant believe they still sell them like this tbh, talk about major design flaw.
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Shaun

The NH-D14 will fit in most modern midi cases you need 160mm clearance, I had a slight issue with its height due to my case being slightly older and having an internal door which houses 4x120mm fans, so lose about 3 inches from overall width, a midi case such as:  http://www.coolermaster.co.uk/product.php?product_id=6632 it would fit fine.


While the NH-D14 is big it is cleverly designed most of the bulk is put in the "dead space" of the case where it isn't blocking or affecting other things  only thing you have to watch is not getting Ram with tall heat spreaders, standard sized Ram fits fine.

Adrock

Cheers for that.

I'm gonna go to the computer fair at Euston tomorrow and see what kind of prices they are offering. Round the corner on Tottenham Court Road there is a half decent shop which seems to have very competitive pricing too. I could be lugging lotsa sh*te on the underground tomorrow.

matt5cott

Euston eh? ease your pain at the Bree Louise  ;D

Adrock

Its been a while. Got the upgrade 3 or 4 weeks ago and have been happily playing around with it so thanks for the advice. Went for a beastly Noctua thing to cool the cpu and I'm happy to say it all installed very well. The case is tight on clearance for the side cover but it just fits.

For stuff like temp monitoring and stress testing to ensure my overclock is stable what would you guys recommend?

bigsteve

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IBT stress test is very stressful indeed but it does not take ages to run.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/IntelBurnTest-v2.3-download-2047.html
Make sure that you do not have anything running in the background & have a fire extinguisher handy :)
Use maximum or high settings levels for memory  15 or 20 runs.
Typically on my setup it peaks about 10c higher than Orthos but i run Orthos for 8 hours minimum on
after it has passed IBT.
I also run a combination of other stress tests for GPU & also some games.
To monitor temps i use Core temp( http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/) &
i use CPU-Z for other information( v core etc) (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html).
Note that the VID shown in Core temp is not V core.
Who the smeg is Dwayne Dibbley ?

Adrock

Thanks for the info, spied your post on my phone earlier and booted my main machine up to start getting it read and blue screens have started and aren't stopping.

I'm getting bad system config info, memory management and another memory one. I thought maybe it was RAM related but then windows came up with wanting to scan the hard drive. It found 351 large files or summit and I stopped it scanning at 10000% complete because it had been one for well over an hour and I thought 100% complete would be sufficient :/

The only thing in my pc that isn't brand new is the hard drive and PSU. I'm thinking the hard drive is the issue as it sounds like lotsa windows stuff has become corrupt. Any ideas?

knighty

it could be the HD... but bad memory is more likely...

can you run memtest ?

how many sticks do you have installed ?

can you take half out and run like that for a while ?
(then swap them over if t still happens)

Adrock

I was hoping beyond all hope it wasn't bad memory because its brand bloody new. It'll be a shame if it is though as I'm not in the area where I bought the RAM from for a while.

Best go check I suppose :(

Adrock

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Posting from the machine now. Memtest86+ is a wonderful thing. Stuck it on a USB stick and had a flood of red error messages after the initial tests. Swapped out a stick and still got it, swapped the sticks around and everything was hunkey dorey. Such a shame That the bloody memory, which is about a month old, has failed on me.

At least I still have 4GB until I get back down to Tottenham Court Road. Now onto stress testing.

What are my rights with regards returning it? I understand my contract is with the retailer so they HAVE to deal with my problem, but am I also right in thinking that because its failed at such an early stage I'm allowed to ask for a new one rather than repair (I know they'd never repair them anyway)?

Clock'd 0Ne

What brand is the memory? If it's from a decent manf. like Crucial you might find an RMA to them for replacement quicker, but if you have the retailers number it's worth giving them a call first, by right as you said it is their responsibility under warranty. They won't ever repair, they will just replace and RMA the old stick on your behalf, you should be able to insist on a direct swap if they are a decent bricks and mortar.