Quote from: neXusWhich is fading fast, but the point being

Uh, no. In the we hate m$ club maybe. In business enviroments FF has maybe 1/50,000 users. FF is too sh*t to be anything more than a backup browser on the rare occasion when IE screws up. Its no better than IE 99% of the time for people who only use OWA or ebay or google and does nothing to justify the time spent installing/supporting a 2nd browser.

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Quote from: neXusWhich is fading fast, but the point being

Uh, no. In the we hate m$ club maybe. In business enviroments FF has maybe 1/50,000 users. FF is too sh*t to be anything more than a backup browser on the rare occasion when IE screws up. Its no better than IE 99% of the time for people who only use OWA or ebay or google and does nothing to justify the time spent installing/supporting a 2nd browser.

Sorry but this just screams of no clue ^

Regardless, FF is 2nd fiddle, and only then because fuxty million wanna be geeks are on the open source bandwagon. If you want alternative go Opera - it has pretty much all the nice touches you need, paste & go, mouse gestures, speed dial etc native.

Gonna have to back up spd here as at work I use IE and FF and FF is crap at the likes of Sharepoint integration, OWA is flaky on it at the best of times. For anything none work related I use FF anything that ties in with the system I use IE. Although I will admit since grabbing the IE Tab addon for FF I barely need IE anymore as it will call on the IE rendering engine for the pages I need in IE

Quote from: sdpRegardless, FF is 2nd fiddle, and only then because fuxty million wanna be geeks are on the open source bandwagon. If you want alternative go Opera - it has pretty much all the nice touches you need, paste & go, mouse gestures, speed dial etc native.

Actually youll find that users who have been on the net for any length of time often switch to FF.  Especially those who have been arseraped by ActiveX viruses.  

Quote from: sdpRegardless, FF is 2nd fiddle, and only then because fuxty million wanna be geeks are on the open source bandwagon. If you want alternative go Opera - it has pretty much all the nice touches you need, paste & go, mouse gestures, speed dial etc native.

Agreed: Opera kicks firefoxs ass any day.

Youre all about the speed nexus.

Lets think about this.

Firefox = naked, you pretty much have to install a bajillionty extensions to have it do all of the set of things that either IE provides, or you just generally use on the web. When you do this its resource footprint goes through the roof. With 8 tabs open its footprint rockets up.

Opera = Fully featured and supports user addons and greasemonkey out of the box. It loads just as fast with a memory footprint considerably less that firefox.

IE = does everything I need, and the integration within the OS is beautiful, I just shove an address into the address bar of any window and whammo... im on the web. You say its slow and clunky, I say having to go through my program files when I can just hit Win+R "iexplore" and be on the net within 7 seconds is pretty damn fast actually.

Youre all about the plugins... I use IEPro its free, and introduces pretty much everything that Id want. Spell checking, flashblocking, support for greasemonkey, session restore, session history, and a billion other features I turn off cause I dont use them.

1 browser, 1 extension... IE.

If I wanted anything else Id go Opera.

Oh and nexus.

Even if you tested both IE8 and Firefox 3 on day 20 of their development exactly, that means naff all as youve no idea whats been the priority for the developers nor have you accounted for the fact that its two different teams, that are more than likely working at completely different speeds.

"I tested em at the same time" reads to me as "I tried firefox when it was beta and IE is at beta so I assume they are at the same development stages" except thats a completely flawed way of thinking.

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Even if you tested both IE8 and Firefox 3 on day 20 of their development exactly, that means naff all as youve no idea whats been the priority for the developers nor have you accounted for the fact that its two different teams, that are more than likely working at completely different speeds.

"I tested em at the same time" reads to me as "I tried firefox when it was beta and IE is at beta so I assume they are at the same development stages" except thats a completely flawed way of thinking.

Read what ever text you seem to see, not what is said though just another example of that here  :mutley: I mean even said it does not mean much but added a bit more, but feel free to see dancing fairies and texts

When you developing websites, using websites day to day high end - FF hands down in virtually all areas tbh and I am smiling at some of the comments about comparing, you can have your fav by all means as many like opera a lot but saying ff does not have or support things when it does out the box is not on.

Well the "download day" is going well so far, their servers have been ddosed to hell

I got mine this morning, no problems.

Just got it, gotta say, everything does feel sharper and faster.

Especially AJAX based stuff, image rendering is massively improved.

Overall very impressed so far, only incompatability was firebug but i imagine they will have a new release very soon if they dont already.

Been trying to get FF 3 for the last hour now as there website is totally packed out by the look of it, finally managed to download it now at a steady 26Kbps lmao

Liam

The addon sites have been nuked.  I regret doing a clean install  I want my addons back...

Quote from: Deaths HeadThe addon sites have been nuked.  I regret doing a clean install  I want my addons back...

ANY site related to firefox is just buggered today, everyone is hammering them all

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Quote from: M3ta7h3adOh and nexus.

Even if you tested both IE8 and Firefox 3 on day 20 of their development exactly, that means naff all as youve no idea whats been the priority for the developers nor have you accounted for the fact that its two different teams, that are more than likely working at completely different speeds.

"I tested em at the same time" reads to me as "I tried firefox when it was beta and IE is at beta so I assume they are at the same development stages" except thats a completely flawed way of thinking.

Read what ever text you seem to see, not what is said though just another example of that here  :mutley: I mean even said it does not mean much but added a bit more, but feel free to see dancing fairies and texts

When you developing websites, using websites day to day high end - FF hands down in virtually all areas tbh and I am smiling at some of the comments about comparing, you can have your fav by all means as many like opera a lot but saying ff does not have or support things when it does out the box is not on.

Then instead of just saying I dont get you, have you considered re-wording what youre saying? Because I appear so far to have it bang on. Youre saying you tested firefox when it was a beta, and IE is a beta now so youre assuming their the same thing.

Firefox doesnt. What firefox does do quite a bit to restore some of the extra functionality is incorporate the user extensions in a particular build.