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Hard Drive Failing?

Started by M3ta7h3ad, May 17, 2006, 23:26:17 PM

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M3ta7h3ad

Ive made some posts recently about thinking that a hard drive is about to fail and needing backup software.

Turned on my PC this evening to hear "clickclickclickclickclickclick" when the hard drive was accessed. It loaded grub so I can only assume that it is being accessed correctly.

Only problem is...with this clicking (Ive never had to deal with a clicker before) I know that it means that the hard drive is crashing and about to fail.

The situation is worse than I feared after trying to remember how my hard drives are set up. They are setup as Dynamic Disks.

This means Linux cannot access the disks from a live cd (So I cant just access the NTFS partitions and save off my data onto CD-roms). It also means that instead of just backing up the 120gb the drive holds I have to back up close to 300gb of data due to the spanned array of dynamic disks im using.

Now please... no lectures about not using dynamic disks as its past that point, and no guesswork here. I need to hear from you lot whove suffered clicking hard drives in the past. What sort of time do I have till this thing fails?!

Never had to deal with a clicker before, just a noisy one that grinded. and that was a mates... not mine with several gigs of family photos on.

maximusotter

It could die in five minutes or last quite a while. Id run a drive diagnostic tool asap. Maxtor, among others offers free isos for such purposes.

bear

Yes, run diagnostic tools, clicking is not always a hardware problem, data can have a faulty address so the seek tries outside the boundries so to speek..

DeltaZero

I have had this and wished Id acted sooner!

My advice: STOP using your PC *NOW* and backup. I found that when I tried to copy it would fail on certain files that it couldent read...would spend a couple of mins (wasting the last few mins of the drive) trying before timing out.

In the end I used the XCOPY with the /C switch, which ignores copy errors...but you could use SyncToy (google it) which does the same. I got about 80% of my stuff off this way...before my drive just stopped making noise and I got the Windows Delayed File Write and that was that :( To this day I wonder if Id have used XCOPY or SyncToy from the start if it would have save enough drive life time to let me get all my data.

If you want to be able to backup your Windows and Program Files (cant see why you would - but if you do) you might find you have to stick another HDD in, install windows on it and run the command from that install.


Badabing

Quote from: DeltaZeroI have had this and wished Id acted sooner!

My advice: STOP using your PC *NOW* and backup. I found that when I tried to copy it would fail on certain files that it couldent read...would spend a couple of mins (wasting the last few mins of the drive) trying before timing out.

In the end I used the XCOPY with the /C switch, which ignores copy errors...but you could use SyncToy (google it) which does the same. I got about 80% of my stuff off this way...before my drive just stopped making noise and I got the Windows Delayed File Write and that was that :( To this day I wonder if Id have used XCOPY or SyncToy from the start if it would have save enough drive life time to let me get all my data.

If you want to be able to backup your Windows and Program Files (cant see why you would - but if you do) you might find you have to stick another HDD in, install windows on it and run the command from that install.


Agreed, the more you use it, the more likely it is to fail... do as the man says... good luck.

M3ta7h3ad

Quote from: DeltaZeroI have had this and wished Id acted sooner!

My advice: STOP using your PC *NOW* and backup. I found that when I tried to copy it would fail on certain files that it couldent read...would spend a couple of mins (wasting the last few mins of the drive) trying before timing out.

In the end I used the XCOPY with the /C switch, which ignores copy errors...but you could use SyncToy (google it) which does the same. I got about 80% of my stuff off this way...before my drive just stopped making noise and I got the Windows Delayed File Write and that was that :( To this day I wonder if Id have used XCOPY or SyncToy from the start if it would have save enough drive life time to let me get all my data.

If you want to be able to backup your Windows and Program Files (cant see why you would - but if you do) you might find you have to stick another HDD in, install windows on it and run the command from that install.


Xcopy is going to have to be the way to do it I think.

I wont run a diagnostic on it for it to tell me "yep... theres something wrong with the drive" as it may damage the drive further. Right now im using my laptop so safe for the moment.

Problem is however that I dont have enough harddrive space or harddrives to back it up.

Xcopy in dos wont burn disks understandably :( But is there any dos tool that does?

Main problem I am worried about is that the Windows install and the linux install are both on this drive. So I have to boot onto the damaged disk in order to recover it, which goes against everything I have ever learnt about when data recovery is the aim.

Already asked a mate if I can take the computer over to him and copy across the network (does xcopy support network transfers??) at least then I will have a bit more hard drive capacity to faff about with. Only thing I dont really like is that well... some of it is personal information, dont really want it on other peoples computers.

No were not talking porn here, but just family pictures, documents pertaining to family stuff, and other gubbins. But I guess its my only choice.

BTW if XCopy supports network transfers I will clear this laptop now (15gb harddrive:() and start transferring everything across.

Pete

Quote from: DeltaZeroMy advice: STOP using your PC *NOW* and backup.

:stupid: Having lost a sh*t load of stuff a few months back myself.. :(

If the disk is gonna break then youll have to buy a new one anyway so you might as well get one now while you got the chance to keep your porn.
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.

bear


M3ta7h3ad

Quote from: sdp
Quote from: DeltaZeroMy advice: STOP using your PC *NOW* and backup.

:stupid: Having lost a sh*t load of stuff a few months back myself.. :(

If the disk is gonna break then youll have to buy a new one anyway so you might as well get one now while you got the chance to keep your porn.

Except I have no money.

p.s. Porn is overrated :)

brummie

Quote from: M3ta7h3adp.s. Porn is overrated :)

or overused in your case  :mutley:

Synctoy is probably your best bet if you have a spare drive

DeltaZero

XCOPY does support network transfers...make sure to use network restartable mode (/Z) if youre copying lots of data...just incase you get 98% done and someone trips over the network cable!

Clock'd 0Ne

Quote from: sdp
Quote from: DeltaZeroMy advice: STOP using your PC *NOW* and backup.

:stupid: Having lost a sh*t load of stuff a few months back myself.. :(

If the disk is gonna break then youll have to buy a new one anyway so you might as well get one now while you got the chance to keep your porn.

Do it. Do it.

Get a new one RIGHT NOW. Go on, click, click, order. Then get backed up.

My drive, the other week - with click of death - decided to corrupt Windows literally 30 mins before I had the new HDD arrive via City Link.

Just dont umm and ahhh, get it backed up.

Im all set to ghost copy my imprtant data now I have it all running from the new drive. Mr clicky is going to be the backup drive until it fails.

soopahfly

Drive in as bag, put it in freezer for 24hrs, then ghost onto new drive.

skidzilla

If you have a floppy drive you can use this Linux distro to obtain detailed diagnostic information.

Smartmontools will be available in Ubuntu too, take a look in synaptic. :)

Pete

If you dont wanna do a full diag theres a proggy called speedfan thatll read straight off the smart thatl give a rough idea of how duff it is.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Dnld, install, click on the smart tab, select the hdd, and click to do the online thing.
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.