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Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 09, 2008, 18:06:11 PM
This weekend just gone I was pottering around town and I noticed the 360 price drops, this got me thinking (again) about trading in my 360 Premium for an Elite.
My reason for trading is that my TV has one set of component inputs that the 360 uses and as a result I have to stick my cable box into the TV using Scart which results in a crappy picture. If I got an Elite then I could use HDMI for the 360, freeing up the component for the cable box.
(I tried running the cable component through my AV receiver but the receiver completely borks the signal :()

So I went into Game and had a chat with the manager. I told him what I was thinking of doing and after running through a list of all the stuff Id be willing to trade he was pretty certain that I could upgrade without any additional cost. My Premium + games + accessories would cover the £260 Elite pretty comfortably.
I then came home and thought about it some more. The main thing putting me off was the possible introduction of a Blueray SKU. Id be pretty gutted if after upgrading to an Elite a new SKU came out with an integrated BR drive but after doing some more reading I think its unlikely that any 360 BR drive would be integrated, its more likely that itll be an add-on like the HD-DVD drive.

Anyway, that was Saturday ;)
On Sunday I decided to wait and give it some more thought. No point rushing in, its not like the prices are going to go up is it !

Then out of the blue on Monday night my Premium decided to die. Full on RROD :(
So I swore a little and sorted out getting it returned to the service centre. I then thought, "its ok, Ive got a load of movies I want to watch...". But no, I cannot. My 360 is my DVD player, my HD-DVD player and my music centre too :( Arrghhhh.

For the past two evenings Ive had to make do with clearing up, sorting through paper work and watching crappy TV.
Needless to say Ive arrived at the end of my tether. Im kinda shocked that its happened so quickly but there you go, I have a short attention span :p

I was tempted to just go into town today and pickup an Elite but then something told me to get a hold of myself. I now find myself in a battle of will power and as a delay tactic I thought I would post this to see what other people think...

Should I just wait for my Premium to return ? Could be another 10 - 20 working days :(
If I wait, should I trade it in and get an Elite ?
Should I just go and buy an Elite and then sell the Premium on eBay when it returns ?
If I buy one now should I trade in the games and accessories or should I sell the lot as a bundle ?

Or, in all seriousness, should I get a grip ?

Oh, Game also had a second user Elite for £200. I was toying with getting that but I am not sure how happy Id be with a second hand console myself and for the sake of £60 I think Id just prefer the safety of knowing that its under warranty et all. Do you think thats the right decision or would you buy the secondhand one ?
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Poison_UK on April 09, 2008, 18:12:45 PM
Get a grip and wait mate, hopefully they wont of had to delete all your save games on the hard drive :p

Just pull out some old consoles? Mega Drive, Snes? Got to have something around to play on. Oh or go get layed ;)
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Bacon on April 09, 2008, 18:23:03 PM
I didnt vote because i couldnt see the option to goto Tescos and buy

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.202-3482.aspx

for £20, while you wait patiently for your Xbox to come back :P
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Poison_UK on April 09, 2008, 18:28:26 PM
Nice little find that Bacon :)

DVD +/- formats, MPEG4 Playback, XVID Playback
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Bacon on April 09, 2008, 18:32:34 PM
The only downfall is i couldnt find a multi region unlock for it when i tried just after i bought it.

The previous revision that tesco was selling had a working unlock, i hoped i would get the previous model but i got this one in the end :D

So if anyone can find me a multi region unlock for it, id be greatful :P
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 09, 2008, 18:50:15 PM
Bah, youre not helping me justify my spend :p

Im in tonight as I have some work to do but I fear that tomorrow might just tip me over the edge.

I have a Sony DVD player here but the poxy thing is region locked and can only be unlocked using some crazy ass universal remote trick or a programmer :s
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Poison_UK on April 09, 2008, 18:59:02 PM
Get your self down the pub!
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Beaker on April 09, 2008, 19:06:38 PM
Last guy i know sent his 360 in for repair he got a Falcon console back.  While it isnt standard to do it, im told it isnt unusual either.
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: zpyder on April 09, 2008, 19:28:20 PM
I say wait till you get yours back. See if for some reason you are jammy like the guy in Beakers post.

If not, trade it in, but Id say dont trade all your games, as youll end up needing to buy new ones for the elite, unless you hate them all? Fork out a little for the difference (How much would all the dongles cost to split/combine the 360 and cable into one?)

And trade up. If youre like me you might not play half the games youve got ever again. In which case losing them to get an upgrade isnt too much of a loss. Then if the Blu ray one comes out, see about an upgrade from an elite to that and maybe fork over a little of the difference? I mean, what would the price difference be for a trade on an elite + a little ££, compared to buying a Blu-Ray player?
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Serious on April 09, 2008, 19:44:51 PM
Try and find a component input switch box so you can plug both into the TV at the same time. You dont watch them both simultaneously do you?

Have a search on fleabay, you should be able to find something for under twenty squid ;)
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Goblin on April 09, 2008, 19:54:40 PM
Wait til it comes back on the chance you get a Falcon back. The other option is to trade the premium in against a new premium which has HDMI, unless you really need the 120Gb HDD (or really want black). Means you could get away with trading in less stuff.
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on April 09, 2008, 21:23:32 PM
Theyre right, do the smart thing and wait to see what you get back from MS. I desperately want to go out and get an Elite, but Im being sensible and waiting until I can afford it fully and seeing where the prices go with these new SKUs coming out, as I dont want to settle for a Premium.

It will be worth the wait for some Guitar Hero and GTA action.
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 09, 2008, 22:12:09 PM
Yeah I know youre all right but its disappointing ;)

Ill take a look at a component splitter but although I dont watch them both at the same time, they are generally both on together which would mean that a manual switch box would be needed...and tbh I am too lazy for that :p

I was toying with the idea of just getting a Premium w/ HDMI but I thought that for the little extra Id might as well get an Elite. Thinking about it some more I dont need the 120gb HDD at all, so I could just settle for a premium.

I think Im going to try and persevere but only time will tell whether or not I have the will power.

Btw, going down the pub every night for the next fortnight would easily cover the cost of an Elite ;)
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Eggtastico on April 09, 2008, 22:26:39 PM
wheres the PS3 option?
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: zpyder on April 09, 2008, 22:35:06 PM
That just dawned on me.

Tbh Im happy with my bog standard 3 year old 360. Next console if anything will be a PS3...
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 10, 2008, 09:30:07 AM
I dont have any interest in getting a PS3. Few of the games appeal and I love online gaming which, atm, the Live! service is the nuts.

I cannot believe that Im the only person to vote for buying an Elite. That kinda tells me something on its own :S
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 13, 2008, 11:55:55 AM
Well yesterday, I ignored all your advice and bought an Elite :p

Hoping to get my hands on a Data Transfer cable soon ;) ;) *nudge* but until then I am still using the small HDD from my original box.

Got to say that Ive noticed quite a big improvement in picture quality; HDMI seems to give the best bit from both Component and VGA (good s colours + clear/sharp pictures).

Pleased with my spend. Now I just need my other back so that I can stick it, some accessories and 9 games on fleaBay to try and recoup some of the cost :p
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: skidzilla on April 13, 2008, 16:12:26 PM
Dont forget to re-download all your arcade games etc (it just generates new DRM licences) once youve done the transfer, otherwise you cant play them without being signed into live.
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Deaths Head on April 14, 2008, 09:08:23 AM
What are you selling?
Check your PMs and xbox live messages...
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: neXus on April 14, 2008, 09:18:05 AM
Quote from: NimrodWell yesterday, I ignored all your advice and bought an Elite :p

Hoping to get my hands on a Data Transfer cable soon ;) ;) *nudge* but until then I am still using the small HDD from my original box.

Got to say that Ive noticed quite a big improvement in picture quality; HDMI seems to give the best bit from both Component and VGA (good s colours + clear/sharp pictures).

Pleased with my spend. Now I just need my other back so that I can stick it, some accessories and 9 games on fleaBay to try and recoup some of the cost :p

Elites rule, easier to keep clean as well although extra controllers that are black costing more is down right silly. You noticed that it is quiter? My elite was quiter then 2 of my friends even with one bought at the same time just about (couple of weeks apart he got a normal one)
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 14, 2008, 09:49:07 AM
Cheers for the headsup on that Skidz, I had read something about the DRM but couldnt figure out what the article was trying to say :p

@ DH. You got PM :p

@ Nexus, this is as loud as my Premium which is a little gutting but the PQ improvement makes it worthwhile :)

Ill be selling (once console is back from service):
360 Premium (Boxed)
Boxed/Unused Wireless Controller.
2 Play and Charge Kits (one boxed / unused)
Cooler King
...
Gears of War
Forza 2
Viva Pinata
PES2008
Orange Box
Halo3
Call of Duty 3
Rainbow 6 Vegas 2
darkSector

I think that should easily cover the Elite :)
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 15, 2008, 16:05:16 PM
Completed the transfer over just now (thanks DH, beer tokens are awaiting your PM ;))

You were right about the DRM on the XBLA games. You cannot play any game that is copied across when youre offline. It doesnt make any difference if you delete the game and then re-download it either :s
I was tempted, for about 0.0001 seconds to stick my game saves on a memory stick, blat the HDD and start again...until I remember that was what I wanted to avoid in the first place ;)
Title: Re:Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: neXus on April 16, 2008, 00:13:49 AM
Did you sell everything? Was interested in a game and controller
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: Mardoni on April 16, 2008, 09:35:11 AM
m8, itd cost a fortune to ship to you on the other side of the world. Besides, I really want to sell it all as a bundle to maximise income and minimise hassle :)

Hope you understand.
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: neXus on April 16, 2008, 09:39:22 AM
Quote from: Nimrodm8, itd cost a fortune to ship to you on the other side of the world. Besides, I really want to sell it all as a bundle to maximise income and minimise hassle :)

Hope you understand.

Actually it is not. Already got a few things sent, 4 dvds were in actual fact cheaper to send to here then it was from my m8es house to Leicester, lol.
Title: Help me to make the decision. Upgrade to an Elite or Wait...
Post by: mrt on April 24, 2008, 15:48:40 PM
Quote from: NimrodWell yesterday, I ignored all your advice and bought an Elite :p

Ha ha ... you remind me of my best mate  :rofl: