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my ipod ear phones are very tinny. Can anyone suggest a decent pair I can buy that arent $500 ?

I got a pair of  sennheiser mx70 s which are sweet as in terms of in ear / glasses on or running etc headphones which are great quality
And then I have a pair of sennheiser covered ear pmx 200 for good sound listening on notebook or something which were only like £25 on amazon and very good in my opinion

sennheiser mx70 gonna blow away my ipod sh*t ?
I dont mind spending up to £30 and these are only £15.

These look good but a tad pricey ?
http://www.instrumentpro.com/P-SENCX300B.html

Actually same pair is $53 on amazon with free del. Worth getting, they look good ?

inner or over ear?

sennheiser cx-300s

Ive never used these Sehnheisers that everyone seems to rave about but Ive always bought a pair of the Sony in-ear style headphones whenever I get a new player and have done for years because I always found the ones that come with walkmans/discmans/mp3 players far too tinny.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-MDR-ED21LP-Groove-Earpiece-headphones/dp/B00009NK3L/ref=pd_sbs_ce_img_4

Cheap as chips and always did the job for me, they dont fall out and the sound quality is good, and you also dont have to jam something down your ear canal to listen to music (always seemed a bit strange to me). Dont get me wrong, they arent going to cut out ambient noise completely (which to be honest is probably a good thing if youre out jogging or walking along a busy road) but they tick all the boxes.

Shure SE110
Shure E2C
Shure E3C
Etymotic er6
Etymot er4

Quote from: CypherShure E2C
Shure E3C

These have been on offer for a while at various places Im sure (including Amazon I think), you might be able to get the E2Cs for £30 and they are good if you like in-ear.

Quote from: CypherShure SE110
Shure E2C
Shure E3C
Etymotic er6
Etymot er4

 :stupid:

I use  Shure SE210 and theyre more than adequate for a Gym session. Very good at Noise Cancelling!

went with shure e2c. They cost about £35 delivered.

I had a pair that lasted me 3 years used almost every day in and out of a back pack, untill a bit of wiring came loose in the left channel.

Youll be happy with them once you find an ear fitting that is comfortable.

Im looking for a new pair mind.  Whats the best around atm for £30-£50?  I think the SE110 and 210 are supposed to replace teh e2c series of earphones?

So they arrived today except they say Shure SCL2. Now I cannot find much about these, is this the same thing or have I been scammed? Luckily I didnt order from shysters heaven, aka ebay.com

They are about £60 here I think, they should be pretty good, you probably lucked out.

On this front the actual apple ipod earphones, they are not bad but anyone notice just how common it is for these to blow and loose all base? Both my ipods have had this happen and started being told of loads of people.
Bit poor on that front not to even slightly improve them over time, seem to be exactly the same as years before

I already emailed them to moan cos they are not noise isolating which is what I want.

Quote from: neXusOn this front the actual apple ipod earphones, they are not bad but anyone notice just how common it is for these to blow and loose all base? Both my ipods have had this happen and started being told of loads of people.
Bit poor on that front not to even slightly improve them over time, seem to be exactly the same as years before

yup, they all die. mine lasted about 2 weeks.

Its cos apple charge so little money for the ipod they cannot afford to offer decent headphones too.

Quote from: SamIts cos apple charge so little money for the ipod they cannot afford to offer decent headphones too.

 :rofl:

To be fair to Apple (:o) the earphones they supply are better than most ready supplied earphones, arnt they tweaked Sennheisers?

Really, most earphones are crap until you start spending a lot of money, but they are fine for the iPod generation who dont care about the quality of sound when out and about. No one is a critical listener these days.

my ipod ones lasted a good 7 months of abuse till they died.

Quote from: Clockd 0NeTo be fair to Apple (:o) the earphones they supply are better than most ready supplied earphones, arnt they tweaked Sennheisers?

Really, most earphones are crap until you start spending a lot of money, but they are fine for the iPod generation who dont care about the quality of sound when out and about. No one is a critical listener these days.

What is the ipod generation and why dont they care about music ?
Sorry is this compared to the walkman generation who were music critics or something on their C90 casettes ?

Quote from: Sam

Quote from: Clockd 0NeTo be fair to Apple (:o) the earphones they supply are better than most ready supplied earphones, arnt they tweaked Sennheisers?

Really, most earphones are crap until you start spending a lot of money, but they are fine for the iPod generation who dont care about the quality of sound when out and about. No one is a critical listener these days.

What is the ipod generation and why dont they care about music ?
Sorry is this compared to the walkman generation who were music critics or something on their C90 casettes ?

Mmmmm Slightly reduced hiss

Quote from: SamWhat is the ipod generation and why dont they care about music ?
Sorry is this compared to the walkman generation who were music critics or something on their C90 casettes ?

The younger generation that have grown with music on the move and use it as background filler, not just to sit and listen to. They arnt particularly fussed about the qaulity of the source, etc as long as they can play it portability on the bus/train, for their mates, etc. The sort of people that listen to music from a mobile phone.

There never was a walkman generation really, theyve been bypassed pretty much as portability and quality was never there like it is with mp3 players. Its only recently everyone and his cat simply has to have an mp3 player on/about them. They dont give a monkeys balls about noise isolation and earphone quality for the most part, certainly not enough for manufacturers to drop in expensive sets from the outset, and I dont blame them. Id rather save on the initial cost and buy my own quality pair.

Modern Ipod quality is far better than Hi-Fi ever was in the sixties and seventies. TBH, at the top of the range, you lot are totally spoilt.

Providing you can afford it and care.

People have built in filters, so even relatively dodgy stuff can sound good enough.

Explain how the iPod quality is better than true hifi, regardless of decade? There is some legendary equipment from the 60s and 70s that still produces phenomenal sound today. Not a load has changed really in the world of hifi in thirty or so years. In terms of portable devices, yes, they are high quality now and wernt then. But no one cared for portable music then, people were happy to play a record.

Filters, EQs, compression and all the other jazz does not improve the quality of sound youre hearing, it just masks it like spraying Febreeze on a turd.

Wrong, a hell of a lot has changed in the last thirty years, including the appearance of digital sound. Basics was thirty years ago you had a tape drive, radio, record deck and amplifier. If your system produced fifteen watts per channel you were quite often regarded as being an audiophile and having an uber system. The production of systems was limited to what they could do with the available technology, which wasnt that good.

Some, very few, record decks were excellent, but usually they were joined to amps or speakers that didnt match their performance. Speaker manufacturers certainly didnt have the rare earth magnets or any of the other advantages.

Sound is never digital, you still need to an analogue process to drive the speakers and generate the waveform that reaches your ears. All digitalisation has done is provide better mediums to store music. It has not fundamentally improved the quality of loudspeakers. Youll also find most audio is still recorded to tape reels in studios for masters, used both to make vinyl pressings and to master CDs.

A lot of it is buzz and snakeoil, the discovery and invention of more powerful magnets and a few fabrication processes hasnt improved speakers much, and other areas, well, a glass platter for instance is better than an aluminium platter; probably one of the reasons why Rega hasnt felt the need to tinker with their hardware much in 30 years... Even my Wharfedale Lintons would pee all over some of the cheap manufactured crap that passes for hifi these days.

This is all an aside though and should go in another thread if you want to continue.

Quote from: Clockd 0NeThe younger generation that have grown with music on the move and use it as background filler, not just to sit and listen to. They arnt particularly fussed about the qaulity of the source, etc as long as they can play it portability on the bus/train, for their mates, etc. The sort of people that listen to music from a mobile phone.

Id never actually thought about it but think youve hit the nail on the head right there.  I just cant get excited about a good stereo system but people a few years older really care about the sound quality.  For me its just got to be "good enough" but have a ton of choice.

Im glad someone understands what Im getting at :lol:

Ive always been into high fidelity since my dad would put on records through his system, and its the experience and inolvement you get with the music that makes it all the better than simply having it on in the background. Hes had some top kit in his time, he even used to build his own speaker systems. I think a lot of kids miss out and dont get to experience this these days, everything is geared for the short attention span.

Does your grandparents know what the on off symbol is if you showed them? So why would someone younger, use it every day but when you give a new item not know what it is again? lol

Quote from: Clockd 0NeSound is never digital, you still need to an analogue process to drive the speakers and generate the waveform that reaches your ears. All digitalisation has done is provide better mediums to store music. It has not fundamentally improved the quality of loudspeakers. Youll also find most audio is still recorded to tape reels in studios for masters, used both to make vinyl pressings and to master CDs.

Indeed.  In fact we are not even getting the full fat recordings as they were in previous mediums.  With digital techniques, we are literally only getting a sample of the raw recording, limited both in the frequency of the samples and the bandwidth leaving out the high and low ends.  We go from a continuous signal to a discrete signal.

What we get out of the speakers in an analogue waveform but in reality is only the product of the interpretation of the digital waveform.  Even then it may have suffered from the known side affects of digital sampling.  Quantization problems.

Speakers have not dramatically changed, only the tecnology in how we record, store and reproduce the original sound in a process that is to complicated for its own good.

Quote from: SamI already emailed them to moan cos they are not noise isolating which is what I want.

They should be.

Quote from: SamSo they arrived today except they say Shure SCL2. Now I cannot find much about these, is this the same thing or have I been scammed? Luckily I didnt order from shysters heaven, aka ebay.com

Same thing. This is the model that replaced the E2Cs

These shures are garbage. If anyone wants a barely used pair for £20 let me know.

Why? I am very suprised to hear that.  Especially if they are the same as the e2cs anyway..

If you dont think they are good enough being an audiiophile...thats what you get for the money.

I just dont like the stupid connectors that are meant to go inside your ear.

Thats the whole idea of isolating sound.  But you have to find a comfortable fit.

Mind not all of the ear attachements are to everyones tastes.  I only really got on with the semi felxible plastic ones rather than the sponge attachments.

Did you ever try niges etymotics.  They were very tough material.

Nah he never did try them out actually. Im surprised that as you do running these arnt ideal, but then as Bob said the fit differs a lot between attachments, these may not have been good for you.

Sam should really get one of these, probably be happier with them..

 :rofl:

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