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So, Season Five is only a short while (http://www.odoe.net/jackfaces/index.html) away.
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Jaaaaackface!

Theyve been winging it since the second season, they obviously havent got a clue where they are taking it and didnt set out with any real plan in mind. The end of season 4 was one of the most cliche packed pieces of television Ive seen in a long time.

I thought they were meant to have had a "bible" of sorts of what will happen through the series.

But I also thought that they originally intended it to be like 2-3 series and niot 7, and so the "stretch marks" are pretty visible...?

Its finishing after the 6th season, thats offical.  Series 5 and 6 are only goung to be 18 eposides or so long.

Appartenly the dude who plays Jack and does them stupid ads for mens face cream is the only of the cast to know how it all ends.

Cant wait.

woohoo!  :nana:

Quote from: McQ-BallAppartenly the dude who plays Jack and does them stupid ads for mens face cream is the only of the cast to know how it all ends.

You do know that he dies next week and, as nobody else knows what happens, it never ends?  :P

I heard they had 7 seasons, and 2 movies already planned.

Lol hope he does, he pissing me of right now!!

Wiki is were I read aboot the last two season (5 and 6)

Poor Frogurt. :lol:

More Sci-Fi than drama now, I love it! :)

Watched Episode 1 & 2 its more than just a bit nuts now....

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Faraday is awesome. 8-)

Least that episode made sense to me :)

Maybe thats what the number typing was all about? Preventing the bomb going off?

Quote from: White GiantMaybe thats what the number typing was all about? Preventing the bomb going off?

Well it didnt go off when they stoped typing the numbers in fact all that happened was that the swan station imploded and why would darma build the swan station around a nuclear bomb they could just disarm.... and the typing the numbers was saving the world..... we will find out what the numbers did prevent and maybe its something thats irreversible but hasnt happened yet?

There idea on time travel is a tad dodgy in my eyes tho. Why would he just have a dream and wake up and remember, the information would of being in his head all the time.

Hrmmmm they have two series to explain a hell of a lot. Good luck to them really.

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Woo! Jinns not dead!

Quote from: White GiantMaybe thats what the number typing was all about? Preventing the bomb going off?

Nope, unrelated.

Im on season 1.5.

wtf is the polar bears and the underground thingy?

Is there ever any lesbian sex?

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Awesome episode.  8-)
Poor French dudes got slaughtered. Ben seemed genuinely surprised to see Desmond. Some of the temporal paradoxes are getting really interesting. :)

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wtf is the polar bears and the underground thingy?

Is there ever any lesbian sex?

Keep watching/read Lostpedia. Its a really tangled web but its a great series IMO.

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Great ep. Lots of answers. :)

Last ep was amazing!!!

Old Frank (minus the beard) flying the plane....awsome.  Wonder is Des hiding in the luggage hold or in Hurleys guitar case.  Im sure he was one of the ones to back to the island.

Only thing I want to know is where are Kate and Suns kids???  I know Suns kid wasnt born on the island but Kates "son" was??

Intersting!!!

Whats with Ben looking all beaten up / covered in blood by the phone?

I think he killed Desmonds wife....

remember how the his daughter was killed so he went to visit the other guy (the one who used to be in neighbours) and told him hed do the same ?

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Awesome episode.  8-)
Poor French dudes got slaughtered. Ben seemed genuinely surprised to see Desmond. Some of the temporal paradoxes are getting really interesting. :)

Wow, I bet that will be handy for someone else though! You can tell the time and be picky about what you eat at the same time, barbie sauce anyone? :heehaw:

do you think the number thing was stooping the island moving? hence the darma/others could get to and from the island at will

Quote from: Alien8do you think the number thing was stooping the island moving? hence the darma/others could get to and from the island at will

Thats an interesting thought......

Ben being beaten up i was guessing he went to see Sayid, we dont know how Sayid was caught and on the plane with the female officer.....

Quote from: knightyI think he killed Desmonds wife....

remember how the his daughter was killed so he went to visit the other guy (the one who used to be in neighbours) and told him hed do the same ?

Yea makes sense :(

Did look like he was at the docks... plus he does say he has an errand to run for a friend.

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Quote from: knightyI think he killed Desmonds wife....

remember how the his daughter was killed so he went to visit the other guy (the one who used to be in neighbours) and told him hed do the same ?

Yea makes sense :(

Did look like he was at the docks... plus he does say he has an errand to run for a friend.

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Daaamn. Saving someone from a suicide only to then murder them? I think Ben qualifies for some kind of Psycho-of-the-year award. :P

I havent seen that ep yet but Im guessing that explains why Ben looked a little worried and surprised when Jack said he had a letter from Locke on the plane.

Ben really is a few gun men short of a pose!

To quote Lister, "Physco rating, definatley 4 and half chainsaws"

That was a quality ep!!!  

Quote from: zpyderI havent seen that ep yet but Im guessing that explains why Ben looked a little worried and surprised when Jack said he had a letter from Locke on the plane.

I suppose locke could have written a letter after he was strangled to death.  :nana: or maybe he guessed? the letter might have said something like.......

Dear Jack,

"I think that ben will stop me from committing sucide then when i mention that im looking for Eloise Hawking he will kill me!"



what the letter did say was......  :cheers:

"I wish you would have believed me."

I know what the letter did say, as I saw that episode, but the episode after has yet to air in the UK AFAIK, so havent seen the Ben/locke backstory that shows Ben killing locke.

Its still logical to assume that Ben would be worried about anything Locke might write to Jack. Ben does not like how Locke seems to be the islands favourite, and gives the impression of being a little afraid of being out of the loop. Locke might have known about what was going to happen, and have a message for Jack saying to kill Ben later on or whatever. I dunno, Ill probably palmface myself when i see the next ep on sunday now...

Quote from: zpyderI know what the letter did say, as I saw that episode, but the episode after has yet to air in the UK AFAIK, so havent seen the Ben/locke backstory that shows Ben killing locke.

Its still logical to assume that Ben would be worried about anything Locke might write to Jack. Ben does not like how Locke seems to be the islands favourite, and gives the impression of being a little afraid of being out of the loop. Locke might have known about what was going to happen, and have a message for Jack saying to kill Ben later on or whatever. I dunno, Ill probably palmface myself when i see the next ep on sunday now...

John Locke wont need Jack to kill him  :heehaw: But yes youre right anything could have been in that letter Ben likes to be the all knowing!

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The four-toed statue! Also lots of Sawyer doing what he does best.

Damnit, I really need to stop reading this thread till AFTER Ive watched the UK airing each week ><

Quote from: zpyderDamnit, I really need to stop reading this thread till AFTER Ive watched the UK airing each week ><

Yes, yes you do.

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The four-toed statue! Also lots of Sawyer doing what he does best.

I wanted them to go over to it then they time jumped! :(

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The four-toed statue! Also lots of Sawyer doing what he does best.

I wanted them to go over to it then they time jumped! :(

Was gutted... but they would have probably stretched that out for about 3 episodes!

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Hehe... designing the Swan. Ben takes quite a whack to the head. Cool episode. 8-)

Some upcoming episode spoilers:

Quote5x12 "Dead Is Dead." To atone for sins of the past, Ben must attempt to summon the smoke monster in order to be judged. (Featuring Penny!)
5x13, "Some Like It Hoth." Suspicions about a possible breach intensify after Ben is taken from the infirmary, and a reluctant Miles is forced to work with Hurley when hes asked to deliver an important package to a top Dharma official.
5x14, "The Variable." On the 100th episode milestone for the series, the time of reckoning has begun when Daniel Faraday comes clean regarding what he knows about the island. (Featuring Penny! And Charles Widmore!)
5x15, "Follow The Leader." Jack and Kate find themselves at odds over the direction to take to save their fellow island survivors, Locke further solidifies his stance as leader of "The Others," and Sawyer and Juliet come under scrutiny from the Dharma Initiative. (Featuring the young Charles Widmore!)

(Highlight to read.) :)

I expect we will find out what the swan station was actually for and the number typing im thinking the number typing (4 8 15 16 23 42) was preventing something that has yet to happen.

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Sayid : "I guess I am a killer...". 8-)

Im thinking young Ben survives, otherwise Sayid has just created a whopping new temporal paradox. Or maybe not? Time, after all, is a fickle companion of fate... :P

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Mostly a boring ep. Some interesting dialogue between Hurley and Miles on the nature of temporal causality. :)

He should have just shown hurley a piece of string and said one end is him when he was born, the other end is him now, and then folded it over, or cut the now end, to show how it doesnt effect the start/beginning.


Who reckons that at some point youll see the face of that giant statue and itll be Richard Albrecht?

Were is Dr Sam Beckett and Al to explain the Quantum Leap String theroy?!!

Its Paradox city.  I thought at the end when Ben was coming to he was getting this "flash of new memorys" or something.  All os a sudden remembering Saiid popping a cap in his skinny bespeckled white ass!!

That or seeing the person he killed standing over him with a smile on his face would be pretty freaky...

The way i look at it is the island allows the (year 1977 whatever year it was) into the present. It doesnt matter what they do the end result will be the same (string theory) the strings will come together..... like a couple of blank pages in a middle of completed book you can write what you want the end will stay the same.

Maybe Ben doesnt remember who shot him? richard said he wouldnt be the same.

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Awesome ep. this week. Ben is judged by the smoke monster (http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7140/bensmoketemplealtar.png) (much like Eko was) and is found... wanting. Locke seems to have been chosen somehow as the islands new protector/emissary?

"It let me live...."

Really need to stop reading this thread. Oh well.

Should have a seperate thread for speculation of what is actually going on/will happen, and keep this for ep spoilers/discussion :D

Why would locke be chosen, when they already have Albrecht? Who needs 2 emissaries when Albrecht seems to be able to go anywhere he wants when he wants :|

Logic to me is either aliens or spiritual . I mean, what with dead people coming back and time travel, theres very little else that could explain it!

Maybe itll turn out to be some kind of mayan outpost, and the diff mishaps are responsible for the 4 apocalypses they recorded, and the 5th and final one to come is what the people on the island are building to or going to prevent?

Quote from: zpyderMaybe itll turn out to be some kind of mayan outpost, and the diff mishaps are responsible for the 4 apocalypses they recorded, and the 5th and final one to come is what the people on the island are building to or going to prevent?

Interesting. We do have strong evidence now for the Smoke Monster, Frozen Donkey Wheel, and the statue all being Mayan in origin. You could be right. :)

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Quote from: zpyderMaybe itll turn out to be some kind of mayan outpost, and the diff mishaps are responsible for the 4 apocalypses they recorded, and the 5th and final one to come is what the people on the island are building to or going to prevent?

Interesting. We do have strong evidence now for the Smoke Monster, Frozen Donkey Wheel, and the statue all being Mayan in origin. You could be right. :)

the statue was holding Anks and looked like the back of Anubis, in the temple there was glyph of Anubis so an Egypt mythos in the mix too

Quote from: Alien8Glyph of Anubis so an Egypt mythos in the mix too...

And what are the Dharma kids studying this week? Bingo! Hieroglyphs! :)

Also epic Jackface :P, and Daniels back from the mainland?

I once saw a late night thing on sky one about lost...

they ran through half an episode and had one of the producers (or someone like that) doing a voice over talking about all the things in the background etc.. and how everything ties in together....

it was FREAKY how much thought theyve put into it... it took the guy an hour to talk about half an episode... he was talking pretty fast and didnt blab on much... there was just so much to talk about they couldnt do a full ep. in an hour :o

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Quote from: Alien8Glyph of Anubis so an Egypt mythos in the mix too...

And what are the Dharma kids studying this week? Bingo! Hieroglyphs! :)
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Also epic Jackface :P, and Daniels back from the mainland?

Alan Ruck Face!

Brilliant ep, very impressed.

That jackface page is classic!

The other others...the ones that "know what lies at the feet of the statue"(the people on plane #2, and the ones that semi-kidnapped Miles)...anyone else think they might be a 3rd party set up by Faraday?

I mean, they dont work for Witmore...and I am guessing they dont work for Ben, Faraday seems to have the time travel thing in the bag so could he be going back and forth setting up an army thats going to put an end to the madness?

Quote from: zpyderThe other others...the ones that "know what lies at the feet of the statue"(the people on plane #2, and the ones that semi-kidnapped Miles)...anyone else think they might be a 3rd party set up by Faraday?

I mean, they dont work for Witmore...and I am guessing they dont work for Ben, Faraday seems to have the time travel thing in the bag so could he be going back and forth setting up an army thats going to put an end to the madness?

you will see on sun ;) or if you dl it (",)

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"And just how are you going to do that?"

"Im going to detonate a Hydrogen Bomb..." :ptu: 8-)

nuke nuke nuke!

Some really interesting theories/analysis on Faraday:

(Huge Spoilers if you havent seen the episode.)

Quote from: Entertainment WeeklyFaraday believed that if he could essentially eliminate the need for the Hatch, Oceanic 815 wouldnt crash, the freighter wouldnt come to the Island, nobody would go quantum leaping because of erroneously turned donkey wheels — known history would be erased, to use a Kate term, and a new history would be take its place. This entire chain of events, its going to start happening this afternoon, he explained. But we can change it. Faradays logic would seem to be sound. Elementary cause and effect, right? Push this domino, the rest fall. Pull that thread, the whole fabric unravels. Fire these two photon torpedoes into this tiny shaft, the Death Star explodes. Right? Well, not quite, says quantum physics and Black Swan probability theory. Both schools of thought would say, quite basically, that the odds of successfully manufacturing a single, game-changing event of this magnitude are beyond microscopically small. Not impossible — just unlikely.

Which makes me wonder if Faraday came to the Island with a back-up plan. And in fact, I think most of his Island adventure was about putting that back-up plan in motion. Call it Operation: Create Total Chaos. From the second he stepped off that sub, Faraday was kinetic energy incarnate, hellbent on colliding with his old friends and setting them in motion like a wild photon-firing electron or hyperactive cue ball. He threw cold water on Jack Shephards man of faith conversion by crapping on his mothers destiny talk. (And how did she convince you? Did she tell you it was your destiny? Well, I got some bad news for you, Jack. You dont belong here at all! For me, the line seemed less like it was about Faraday debunking his mother but more about blowing Jack out of his watch-and-wait inertia.) He staked out the Orchid, waited for Dr. Chang to arrive (Right on time, he said), then filled his ears with hysteria about evacuating the Island because of impending disaster and spilled the beans about Miles Straume actually being his son. (This sequence, an expanded version of the seasons opening scene, turned The Variable into an elaborate variant edition of the season premiere itself.) He got the whole castaway crew moving: Sawyer, Juliet, Hurley and Miles to the beach; Jack and Kate with him to the Others Tent City. And he all but baited Radzinsky and the Black Swan team into a firefight by flashing a gun and talking provocative. If Faraday is correct, and the time travelers are loose canon variables capable of changing history, then I think that we saw Faraday trying to light the fuse on each of them in hopes that one of them will somehow, someway fire that one shot, whatever it is, that will change everything. Faradays approach to heroism is a bit like my approach to Lost theorizing: throw a lot of stuff at the wall, hope something sticks.

Faradays actions seemed to be guided by the contents of his notebook, as if it held a "This Day In Dharma History!" schedule of events. 10 AM: Dr. Chang will arrive at the Orchid. 10:10 AM Dr. Chang will leave the Orchid. 12:30 Mom will be hanging with the Hostiles; jungle location TBD. 4:00 PM: The Incident. Run/swim like hell. 9:00 PM: Smores. Faraday clearly returned to the Island with more information about it than when he left — including the 411 on his mothers membership in the Hostiles. Which made me even more curious about what exactly he was doing over there in Ann Arbor with Dharmas head honchos. Last summer at Comic-Con, the Lost producers showed attendees a teaser video of the season that strongly suggested that Dharma had the means to send messages to people in the future, à la the movie Frequency. One wonders if Faraday was working the quantum radio and getting info from someone in the present....

Whether it was his primary plan or secondary plan or the only plan he had, Faradays gambit reached a temporary or permanent stall in The Others tent city. I watched the episode with about a dozen people, and more than half of us felt there was something a little contrived about the way Faraday bumbled into the Hostiles territory. Recklessly brandishing and then discharging his gun, near-raving as he demanded to see Ellie, and then forcing a crisis by petulantly giving Alpert to the count of three to give him instant satisfaction — I mean, Faraday was practically asking to get shot. What if he was? Was he genuinely gripped by sickening shock at the awareness that his mother had set him up to be shot (You knew...you always knew this was going to happen...and you sent me here anyway...) or was he just playing out the part? I dont think he had any fear of being killed. On the contrary, even though he told Jack that they could die in the past, it stands to reason that depending on the scope and reach of the negating paradox, a rebooted timeline would effectively bring select dead folks back to life. Perhaps Faradays plan to save the castaways and change history actually required that he follow through on getting shot — even killed. Because in Faradays plan, its what happens next thats most crucial.

Faraday.....

QuoteHow did he get on a sub from the 1970s? because that sub came from the 1970s he must have signed up to dharma and he knew miles and that dharma scientist were father and son

Its all in the Journal... Ouroboros. ;)

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Two Lockes for the price of one this week! Sawyer leaves the island... though not in the best of circumstances. :)

Richard Alpert and ben not knowing what is going on :D

Nestor Carbonell wears eyeliner!  he appears alot in this latest episode :bounce:

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aha!  :nana:

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Great end to the season, I wonder who the guy pretending to be Locke is? And how in the hell did he take on his form?

Im betting the Bomb didnt detonate.

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If the bomb did go off that means jacob isnt dead thats why he (jacob) got them back on the island! locke i think his the guy at the start of the episode in another form he said he would kill jacob one day!

Ive just realised....

what if lost gets cancled... and were all left without any answers to the ever increasing number of questions we have ?

Quote"Losts penultimate season finale averaged 9.31 million viewers over its two-hour run, marking a gain of 600K week-to-week and the series best numbers since April 1."

I doubt it getting cancelled. :P

Cant wait for season six!

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^Bump^ Feb 2nd! Its back. :D

Should I rename this thread or make a new one?

Might as well make a new one.