Tekforums

Chat => Entertainment & Technology => Topic started by: XEntity on April 12, 2008, 00:14:46 AM

Title: My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 12, 2008, 00:14:46 AM
My modded WRT54GS with DD-WRT has just decided that after over a year of faithful service it would become a paper weight!

The Power light flashes and the hub light remain on, I have tried various "fixes" even putting it in the freezer! But its properly dead!

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7884/454/400/Router-Mod.0.jpg)

Can someone sugest a replacement as the my old netgear WGR614 that is its temporary replacement keeps crapping out as there is too much traffic to handle.

I want something that can handle the load, works with cable, and should include wireless, but I would contemplate a seperate wireless gateway.

My budget is about £50 so sorry no Draytek Vigor :(

Cheers for you advice.

Jake
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Beaker on April 12, 2008, 00:21:37 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Watchguard-Firebox-SOHO-6-Firewall_W0QQitemZ170209533884QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

With a decent Access Point.  The Airport isnt a bad choice if you want to be able to network a HDD or Printer.  
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Mark on April 12, 2008, 00:29:05 AM
have you tried paperclipping it

Worked once for me on a WRTG
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Mark on April 12, 2008, 00:38:29 AM
Buy a second hand proper router (A cisco) off ebay

or buy a cheap cisco (800 series) and a WAP
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 12, 2008, 00:46:29 AM
Yep tried everything, nothing happend :(

Ideally I want something with web admin, does the cisco have webadmin? or is it all command line based?

I saw an old cisco at work, might give that a quick look to see if its got the right ports and not DSL. But not sure if it is still around.

Jake
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Mark on April 12, 2008, 00:49:04 AM
depending on how much RAM it has you can run CRWS or security device manager - both web based

I can provide you with any version of IOS required...

If its cable a router is a router, just need to set the default route to be the port the cable modem is connected to
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 12, 2008, 10:22:58 AM
I might consider that, What routers do other people use and how do you find them?

What are you opinions of Netgear / Linksys / Zytel / Belkin etc etc

Really I just want something that works really   -)

Cheers

Jake
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Beaker on April 12, 2008, 13:37:43 PM
Im using one of the SOHO6s plugged into my Speedtouch working in bridge mode.  Then i have a WAP plugged into that.  I got fed up of the speedtouch, as a modem it rocks, and a wireless router its bloody awful.
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 15, 2008, 20:31:52 PM
Quote from: Beakerhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Watchguard-Firebox-SOHO-6-Firewall_W0QQitemZ170209533884QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

With a decent Access Point.  The Airport isnt a bad choice if you want to be able to network a HDD or Printer.  

Very much annoyed now....

...At work today waiting for this auction to near an end, placed a good bid, then my work computer decided to freeze for about 20 seconds while outlook was recieving a mail from the exchange server! and my bid was too late!

Could have got it for a good price as well! Will have to keep an eye out for another Soho 6... but doubt there will be anotherone any time soon. :(

Not a happy bunny!
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: soopahfly on April 15, 2008, 20:48:08 PM
Ive got a WRT54G I was going to sell until I saw the Draytek Vigor 110, ADSL Modem Only.  No routing no nothing. Then I can use that on the WAN port of the WRT - DD Hacked.

Just get another WRT54GS, or whatever the new Linux hackable ones are called.
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Beaker on April 15, 2008, 20:51:40 PM
Quote from: XEntity
Quote from: Beakerhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Watchguard-Firebox-SOHO-6-Firewall_W0QQitemZ170209533884QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

With a decent Access Point.  The Airport isnt a bad choice if you want to be able to network a HDD or Printer.  

Very much annoyed now....

...At work today waiting for this auction to near an end, placed a good bid, then my work computer decided to freeze for about 20 seconds while outlook was recieving a mail from the exchange server! and my bid was too late!

Could have got it for a good price as well! Will have to keep an eye out for another Soho 6... but doubt there will be anotherone any time soon. :(

Not a happy bunny!

I can imaging.  Ive heard good things about the smallere Checkpoint appliances as well (I think Mark has good history with them too).  though to be fair right at this moment I would be escpaing Virgin as fast as my little legs can carry me.  The new restrictions are horrible beyond all things.
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 15, 2008, 21:08:21 PM
can anyone comment on the Firebox II Plus or the Firebox III 700?

Can I plug these directly in to my Cable Modem (Network Port) and connect to a hub on the other side to give me the extra ports?

And does it have a web interface? As I dont want to be playing around with learning the command line commands for it, to set everything up?

Oh and does it require any licences?... Basically if I buy one will it do everything that my WRT54GS did (other than wi-fi)

Thanks for your help and comments guys!

@Beaker - Which new restrictions are you talking about? the throttling? or is there something else now too? Also which smaller Checkpoint appliances?
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 15, 2008, 23:23:41 PM
After looking at the firebox II and III you need the original CD to be able to login and administer the box, so looks like that isnt an option as dont want to pay for their support.

Will have a look tomorrow for the Cisco, think there is an 800 series around, and if I cant claim it then another ebay purchase I think.....
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 16, 2008, 15:06:27 PM
Hi Mark,

Just been having a look at the 800 series, and noticed that the hub is 10MBits unless I go for a 87* (Which I dont think there are any around)

My concern here is not the network computers as I can use another hub but more the broadband, I should be being upgraded to 10Meg soon, which will take me to the peak of the routers capability, so I expect for 1 it wont be able to use the whole 10 meg and two if my BB gets upgraded then it wont handle higher than 10.

You mentioned a second hand "proper router" which model were you talking about here?

Or do you know of any other 800 series that support 10/100 i.e. ones thatll be on ebay :)

Thanks for all your help guys!

Jake
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 16, 2008, 20:43:57 PM
Hey guys!

Me again... What are your opinion of Net Screen Routers? e.g. the 5GT.

Any experience?

Let me know cheers again!
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Mark on April 17, 2008, 20:44:46 PM
Quote from: XEntityHi Mark,

Just been having a look at the 800 series, and noticed that the hub is 10MBits unless I go for a 87* (Which I dont think there are any around)

My concern here is not the network computers as I can use another hub but more the broadband, I should be being upgraded to 10Meg soon, which will take me to the peak of the routers capability, so I expect for 1 it wont be able to use the whole 10 meg and two if my BB gets upgraded then it wont handle higher than 10.

You mentioned a second hand "proper router" which model were you talking about here?

Or do you know of any other 800 series that support 10/100 i.e. ones thatll be on ebay :)

Thanks for all your help guys!

Jake

Loads of 800s have fastethernet ports - you dont need to get a current model

Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 17, 2008, 22:53:17 PM
OK mate cheers for getting back!
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Mark on April 17, 2008, 23:11:56 PM
If you have a static IP its fairly easy to bridge it - your dialer interface config would be something like this

interface Dialer1
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool 1
 dialer-group 1
 ppp authentication chap pap callin
 ppp chap hostname xxx@xxx.com
 ppp chap password 7 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx      -   (encrypted)
 ppp pap sent-username xxx@xxx.com password 7 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx       -   (service password-encryption is enabled hence the hash)
 hold-queue 224 in

you then set eth0 (or fa0) to have your public IP

route for 0.0.0.0 is of course dialer1 in that case
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on April 17, 2008, 23:25:43 PM
Ok wish I knew what all that meant!  :shock:

Unfortunatly no static IP..

...Need to get some good cisco nerding on really, would be useful to know...

Got my eye on a few ebay auctions at the moment.. will let you know which one I end up getting, might have to pick up a cisco cheap if there is one going, just to get some learning on!
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on May 02, 2008, 22:35:44 PM
Just in case anyone is bothered....

Managed to get a Firebox Soho 6 off eBay... .for £11 +£7p&p !!!!!

Absolute Bargain! .... now looking for a suitable 802.11n wireless access point to pair with it!

Soho6 seems a good router... no problems so far... and the new version of this router is about £250!! (Mine is an older version obviously but a good spec in its day)

Might pickup a cisco still to have a play with, if I can find one going cheap.

Cheers

Jake
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: Beaker on May 02, 2008, 22:37:19 PM
Cool, I have a SOHO6 sat here running my firewall and routing.  Good little things arent they?  Ive had this running about 8 weeks withotu a reboot :D
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on May 02, 2008, 22:42:54 PM
Cool... quick response!

Have you tried setting up a VPN through it? I have the software from watchguard.. when I registered the soho with them, just dont really know how to set it up... although I havent really looked yet.

Also I got a years worth of free anti-virus from mcaffee when I registered my router... I think the router may have never been registered?
Title: Re:My WRT54GS is now a paper weight! Which replacement?
Post by: XEntity on May 13, 2008, 21:40:46 PM
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but thought I would share my happiness with the Soho 6....

... As I have registered my router with WatchGuard I have been give a years worth of Mcafee Total Protection!! (Business Virus/Spyware/Firewall)

It is centrally managed from the WatchGuard site to set the settings for each of the services i.e. set scan schedules, exclusions, firewall settings, browser protection etc etc.

I can also install the client on many machines, and set different groups and policies, and the client picks up the new settings when they auto update!

All this is reported on the site, so you can see which are up to date and any detections etc!

For the price I got the router the virus/spyware protection alone is worth more!

Just thought I would say as very happy with this box!