Was being discarded. In 95% condition with a decent Stanton 727. :mrgreen:
The bulb behind the "33" is out. Thats it. Otherwise definitely a deck thats capable of sounding as decent as Ill ever need. Straight arm, and backlit elevator type touch sensitive speed buttons. :D Suspension like a Thorens. Not as good, but close, and it has auto raise and shutoff--cant live w/o that.
Gawdamn it sounds marvelous. The Stantons much richer than my former tinny Ortofon.
Now I gotta flog the Sansui for $100. Better player and money in pocket. :thumbup:
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Damn you for making me dream of a stylus and some spinning vinyl. How come you upgraded, this was being thrown out? :o
Only diehards and students listen to vinyl nowadays, CD rule the music disk market now, plus the fact we have become a world of disposeable products :(
Quote from: SeriousOnly diehards and students listen to vinyl nowadays, CD rule the music disk market now, plus the fact we have become a world of disposeable products :(
i like vinyl as it sounds real, CDs and MP3s sound false, plastic, or maybe its just my imagination.
Vinyl definitely has a warmer sound but unless you are willing to keep the records absolutely clean and handle them carefully you end up with clicks and scratches.
Quote from: SeriousVinyl definitely has a warmer sound but unless you are willing to keep the records absolutely clean and handle them carefully you end up with clicks and scratches.
Its not hard to look after vinyls properly tbh.
They are probably harder to scratch than CDs, which seem to scratch if you look at them funny in my experience :?
Its all about pride in your collection and maintenance as to how far you take it, but the sound from any decent pressing will show the CD equivalent the finger.
Quote from: Clockd 0NeQuote from: SeriousVinyl definitely has a warmer sound but unless you are willing to keep the records absolutely clean and handle them carefully you end up with clicks and scratches.
Its not hard to look after vinyls properly tbh.
They are probably harder to scratch than CDs, which seem to scratch if you look at them funny in my experience :?
Its all about pride in your collection and maintenance as to how far you take it, but the sound from any decent pressing will show the CD equivalent the finger.
I have heard that before but people still buy thousands of CDs and very few if any vinyls are produced in comparison. Providing you take care of it CDs certainly dont have the vulnerability to dust that records have.
Quote from: BadabingQuote from: SeriousOnly diehards and students listen to vinyl nowadays, CD rule the music disk market now, plus the fact we have become a world of disposeable products :(
i like vinyl as it sounds real, CDs and MP3s sound false, plastic, or maybe its just my imagination.
Thats more to do with todays production as opposed to the media its on. Thats true for cds at least anyway, MP3 obviously alters the sound but its still modern production that makes a lot of music clinical.
Tis like remastered versions, a lot of them are too clean sounding imo.
Quote from: Clockd 0NeDamn you for making me dream of a stylus and some spinning vinyl. How come you upgraded, this was being thrown out? :o
Yup, remnants of a yard sale, in a pile that said "free". :lol: Its really a remarkable player. Didnt hit me how nicely made it was till I popped off the platter to clean it and noticed, "hey this is suspended like a Thorens with a low mass arm and everything!!". :D Platter is totally isolated from the motor and driven by the widest and squishiest belt Ive ever seen. It is QUIET! :shock: Im used to a bit of idler belt rumble with my beloved Duals, or a bit of surface noise amplification with traditional sturdy decks like the Sansui--this guy is unreal. Might be how the cart rides the groove, and the player has infinite adjustablity for how round or oval your stylus is. :lol: :D
The 727 cart is the same that came with the Thorens back in the day. Id venture its a mild step below todays Mark III, but a bit better than their $50 entry level cart. I can get a new stylus thats a step down, but OK for $30, or do a Mark II for $90. It looks fine, so Ill leave it as is for now. Reminds me of a more staid Shure. Sybilanty brass jazz passages could be brighter, but in turn, theyre easier on the ears.
If I manage to wear out the cart in a few months, Ive been dying to get a wonderful Shure
MX97XE, but dont know if they jive with low mass tone-arms.
Audio on the cheap, at any rate. Thrift store? Nah. Ebay? Nope. Junk Heap? Bingo. :lol:
Vinyl care, unless youre into expensive stuff aint hard. They dont mind being handled. Just dust them off from time to time, and make sure theres not too much dust on them, and that your cartridge is set up reasonably right.
Oh, and why vinyl? So you can buy funky old discs and explore the great world of music thats sitting in dusty bins everywhere.
Also, you can get new pressings of albums that you genuinely love, and with a reasonable setup, theyll sound better than CDs. Perhaps its the ritual, the slitting of the cellophane, the cleaning of the needle, but the music ends up being more delightful. :D Real album art anybody?
CDs may seem to scratch easier - but they do cope with it better because of the digital error correction they use - dont get any of that on your vinyl champ.
There remains something intriniscally visceral and cool about spinning the black discs whilst thumbing through a fullsized gate stlye vinyl package.
It depends on what kind of stylus you use. An oval stylus, like you find in cartridges made for home use, not DJing, run at a low weight, like .75 to 1.5g, will often ride below the scratches. :thumbup:
Im not going to turn this into a CD vs. LP debate, as its really apples and oranges. LPs can sound great, but Im really just there for the Japanese tea ceremony. ;)
Quote from: maximusotterIt depends on what kind of stylus you use. An oval stylus, like you find in cartridges made for home use, not DJing, run at a low weight, like .75 to 1.5g, will often ride below the scratches. :thumbup:
Im not going to turn this into a CD vs. LP debate, as its really apples and oranges. LPs can sound great, but Im really just there for the Japanese tea ceremony. ;)
Indeed. Just for the record though, digital error correction isnt all its hyped up to be on CDs.
Id trade the odd missed byte for a warmer compression.
mmmm, warm.
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Man, that looks sweet.
Good read: http://georgegraham.com/compress.html
Vinyl is great and sounds great with a good setup the only issues are size and storagespace IMHO
Quote from: sdpMan, that looks sweet.
Good read: http://georgegraham.com/compress.html
This is something Ive mentioned before (and what Ive tried to poorly explain to Greg from my own experiences :mrgreen: ).
Oh, yeah, CD dynamic range blows LPs away. It seems the real problem is todays engineers. The author is right about classical music often being the only music that takes advantage of CDs to any degree. Well, that, and jazz, and bluegrass--basically its the popular music engineers that need a beating. :P
Im listening to Elvis Costellos "Trust" right now, and its a finely engineered album, taking advantage of all the range it can. Its always amazed me how whoever engineered the old Costello records could cram as much per side w/o losing too much fidelity. I mean, it runs up to less than a cm from the label. :shock:
Quote from: sdpGood read: http://georgegraham.com/compress.html
Yes :) So that is that some of my older CDs made from master tapes
sound so good (Music that been released on vinyl only before) they used
the full dynamic range of the master tape.