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Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on July 08, 2009, 15:24:44 PM
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59432

I actually did a happy dance!  :gag:
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on July 08, 2009, 15:43:04 PM
f**k yes.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on July 08, 2009, 16:59:14 PM
This has made my year.

Please oh please let it be a return to the old days, and not another MechAssault...

Question is, if it is any good, what about getting some form of clan together? I was good at the old MW2/3 single player, and MW4 was my first real online experience, but I did several times go 1v1 with clan leaders who were recruiting, kick their ass, and then move on, so I wasnt too bad either :D

*happy sigh*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X3GD0UnBCk
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on July 08, 2009, 17:10:55 PM
By far the greatest BattleTech game for me was the EGA and then VGA Multiplayer BattleTech : Solaris on the old Kesmai gaming service. BattleTech : 3025 looked fantastic until EA canned it, the swines.

I used to run a clan myself and then we joined the Draconis Combine and were rebadged as the 2nd Nightstalkers.

Edit : Brings back some memories:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rLR4McpjHs

3025 was years ahead of its time and Ive still never really forgiven EA for cancelling it after they bought up Kesmai.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcq6tGgxzEQ
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on July 08, 2009, 17:21:04 PM
I was involved in testing for the Mechstorm/mercstorm mods (I even have an "office" on some of the Mechstorm Maps.  I loved MW4 and MW4 : Mercs.  Im really looking forward to this if it kicks off.  I would love them to include the Uller and the Wolfhound as I was always a light mech junkiw anyway.  
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on July 08, 2009, 17:46:30 PM
I preferred the mediums and heavies. Mobile, but with enough weapons to lurk on the fringe of the battle and basically chip away at the enemy whilst they faffed around with the lights or assaults that were up-close :D

I will own up to laser boating in MW4 though, but hey, if it works!
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on July 08, 2009, 17:54:13 PM
Due to the fact that they didnt model any decent ECM or ECCM in Mech 4 it was easy to win in multiplayer, you just loaded up with Arrow IVs and faded everyone to death.

I think for "feel" Mechwarrior 3 wins hands down. The Mech 2 games come second, and the Mech 4 games I always placed last for how they played with regards to reload times and how the weapons and systems worked.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on July 08, 2009, 18:27:37 PM
Quote from: Chris HDue to the fact that they didnt model any decent ECM or ECCM in Mech 4 it was easy to win in multiplayer, you just loaded up with Arrow IVs and faded everyone to death.

I think for "feel" Mechwarrior 3 wins hands down. The Mech 2 games come second, and the Mech 4 games I always placed last for how they played with regards to reload times and how the weapons and systems worked.

Nah, the Arrow4 was a line-of-sight weapon really.  While LRMs would go just over the top of a jill the Arrow4 would try and get through the middle of it.  

I used to spend most of my time hunting down jump snipers and poptarts, because you know, it was funny listening to them whine.  Even more amusing when I was doing it in a Raven with a Clan Flamer and 2 Arty Beacons.  Jump snipers hated that config with passion, because it usually blew all their guns off.  They also couldnt ignore you because if they did they would be dead, but if they concentrated on you they would be swarmed under by the other members of your team.  For Brawling a Thor with 1 CLBX10 and 2xCLBX20 was killer config in a brawl.  If you wanted to just be really annoying then filling a Masakari full of CLRM10s and chain firing caused ANGER, it was even more fun if you got a spotter up with some NARC Beacons, you used to stay passive, wait for the NARC and then fire off everything in one go, I used to spend a lot of my time NARCing people in a Raven for my Gaming Team to then wipe them out.  
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Leon on July 09, 2009, 00:05:37 AM
omg omg omg omg more stompy mechy ness! Im happy :D :D D:
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on July 09, 2009, 07:29:23 AM
Fave mechs anyone?

MW2 - Atlas I think

MW3 - Supernova I think it was. It was cheating I guess as its config meant you could put 6 heavy pulse lasers or ERL on, and 2 shot kill pretty much anything. The Final single player mission was ridiculous doing it that way!

MW4 - Difficult one as I played it so much. I did like my Sunder, I think I did use a raven a fair bit too, and I remember being accused of cheating when using an Uziel and hitting someones cockpit at maximum range with the PPCs.

Though admittedly the Madcat/Timberwolf is so Iconic its always got a place in my heart. Ive got a JoyRide Studios diecast Timberwolf on my shelf behind my computer :D
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on July 09, 2009, 08:49:12 AM
Fave mechs in general from the entire universe are as follows:

Assault: Akuma
Heavy: No-Dachi
Medium: Gladiator
Light: Wight

From the games its a tough one. In Mechwarrior 2 I always liked the Warhammer IIC. In the Merceneries version of Mech 2 it was probably the Flashman. For Mech 3 I always enjoyed the Avatar. For the Mechwarrior 4 series probably the Black Knight.
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Leon on July 09, 2009, 11:08:35 AM
Mech Commander - Thor
MW2 - Hmmm not sure naymore, its been too long.
MW3 - Prob the vulture
MW4 - Hellfire (mini thor! mainly due to online play)

Out of all the mech games over the years its been MechCommander thats held the greatest love for me. It was the first game I ever played online (back in the day of mpiggy and DONT RIGHT CLICK!) and man I played it to death :D

edit: just reminded me about http://www.nebulastation.net/timby.php?PHPSESSID=4c23c76a3e45ccc54880a2151ab580a4 - tempted to try and make one :P
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on July 09, 2009, 12:56:44 PM
I played them all, but to be fair I dont have any favourite configs until MW4 made online play decent.

MW4 :: Vengeance
Light : Raven with CLRM10 and ERLL. (Yes Im a mixtech whore).  
Medium : Shadow Cat, How to REALLY annoy someone at max range with a Light Gauss and ERLL.  
Medium : Bushwhacker loaded out with CLBX and CSSRM.
Heavy : Loki loaded out with LRMs
Heavy : Thor with 1xCLBX10 and 2xCLBX20 (This was a monster on a city map).  
Assault : None, didnt like any of them at this point.  
 

Black Knight
Light : Wolfhound "Angry Pencil" loaded out with ERSL or ISSL (Ran a bit hot sometimes, so you swaped out the extra range for better heat scales).
Light : Uller "Irritant" Version with 2xERLL or 2xISLL for hotter maps

Mech packs ::
Assault : Masakari "Pin Cusion" Loaded out with LRM10 in every slot.
Assault : Highlander "Hailstone" Loaded out with Clan UAC2.  Stripped armour straight off.  
Heavy : Dragon 1 Clan Gauss and 2xERLL.

Mercenaries ::
Some configs got dropped like the Uller 2xERLL and carrying any heavy gun because they nerfed the config so badly.  Caused all sorts of arguments in some quarters.  I just perfected my Wolfhound and Raven tactics at the time instead.  
However I did add
Medium : Hellhound, and just loaded it out for close-range combat.  It was a little more flexible than the SCat, but didnt have the same survivability. The cockpit was a fairly easy hit.

Pretty much my "best" tactic was to take the arms off a NovaCat, core out its left torso, then leg it and leave it.  next best was to  shoot the legs off flying Black Knights because people used to strip armour to fit in that last little ERLL.  Used to amuse me with screams about legging, and Dishonourable.  Its basically people whining that a little 35tonne thing had just torn them a new arsehole.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on July 09, 2009, 13:21:42 PM
Im really hoping they take it back to prior the clan invasion. Some of the best novels were written then and it was a really exciting time, the clans and lostech have been done to death.

That said it could be the horrible new BattleTech rather than Classic stuff. That would be an abomination.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on July 09, 2009, 13:37:20 PM
http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/100/1002164p1.html


Set in 3015, just at the end of the Third Succession War, this looks interesting.  Im just at the end of page 2 now.  
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on July 09, 2009, 18:25:04 PM
Oh, and over the next few weeks MekTek and Battletech.com will be releasing all of the MW4 games for free download.  This is a Good Thing because Ive not a scooby where my Vengence disks have gone!
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on July 09, 2009, 19:20:43 PM
Hmm, thatll be interesting. I pretty much got into MW in MW2:Mercs, which pretty much is set around the clan invasions. I think all the books Ive read have been either during or post invasion.

Itll be good to get some kind of background to the old houses and factions rivalries :D
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Leon on July 09, 2009, 23:10:53 PM
Good news about the MW4 games being released, might give me an excuse to play them again. Also might temp breave some life back into the online games :P
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: White Giant on July 09, 2009, 23:12:50 PM
Never played a Mech game, seems Ive missed out here!
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on July 09, 2009, 23:30:32 PM
Did anyone play MW4 with keyboard and mouse? I found the way it played to be better off with a joystick.
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Leon on July 10, 2009, 04:37:05 AM
I tired but couldnt get into it. Was happy that the game was built around the M$ Sidewinder stick tho as its the one i had :P
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on July 10, 2009, 10:20:07 AM
I used to use KB + Mouse for jump sniper practice (Game team decided I should learn because it would make me a better sniper hunter), however usually just used a stick because it was easier for brawling, and for running around at full-tilt shooting sh*t.  
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 01, 2009, 23:37:58 PM
*bumpity bumpity, bumpity bump*

I actually got asked in to the Beta Testers for this, and its _nearly_ done.  Was originally planned for last weekend, but its been pushed back a few days.  Should be out Very Soon if anyone is still interested!
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Grey M@a on September 02, 2009, 08:50:05 AM
If the new mechwarrior game is out as soon as you say I think I could safely say that my free time will now be over with :D

Love the Mechwarrior series, shame the old clan disappeared, nothing better than organised destruction.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: dogbert on September 02, 2009, 10:28:15 AM
FKINELL.... :bounce:



[size=18]Just...fkinell! :rock:[/size]



[size=24]...dribble  :w00t:[/size]



[size=36]This thread needs IMAGES! :heehaw:[/size]
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(http://www.psp-themes.net/data/media/5/Mechwarrior%20theme%20V2_2_2.jpg)

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Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 02, 2009, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: Grey M@aIf the new mechwarrior game is out as soon as you say I think I could safely say that my free time will now be over with :D

Love the Mechwarrior series, shame the old clan disappeared, nothing better than organised destruction.

The new "Mechwarrior" titled game wont be out until late 2010 I would guess.  However this is an unboxed, unlocked and FREE Mechwarrior 4 :: Mercenaries.  Yes the campaign sucks, but the multiplay is still awesome fun.  
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: dogbert on September 02, 2009, 15:47:27 PM
Damn you Beaker - Ive been haunted with images of Mechwarrior all day since seeing this thread this morning!
Ive was walking down the highstreet just imaging a Mech standing behind a tower block at the end of the street....Ill have to dust off my copy of M2 and try and get my ForceStick working now  :w00t:
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 02, 2009, 23:38:14 PM
Poor MadCat MK2, I almost felt sorry for it.  Almost.....

Who said Lights arent dangerous. even in the right hands....

(http://www.zombiechorus.com/rick/ArtyRaven.JPG)
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Grey M@a on September 03, 2009, 09:13:20 AM
Its a shame I binned the old Joystick years ago but I used to play MW2 and MW3 with the keyboard and mouse so MW4 shouldnt be an issue. Will dig out the old CDs and the expansion packs and get it installed again.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on September 03, 2009, 09:40:16 AM
I actually found I couldnt get on with keyboard/mouse with MW4. 2&3 were fine, and the opposite. But I just found 4 to be slightly more demanding of a proper control for rotation etc.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 03, 2009, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: Grey M@aIts a shame I binned the old Joystick years ago but I used to play MW2 and MW3 with the keyboard and mouse so MW4 shouldnt be an issue. Will dig out the old CDs and the expansion packs and get it installed again.

Well you can, or you could wait a about a week at the outside....
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: dogbert on September 03, 2009, 11:30:41 AM
http://kotaku.com/5310586/new-mechwarrior-game-confirmed-will-reboot-series

 :wub: :rock: :nana: :wub: :rock: :nana: :wub: :rock: :nana: :wub:

Checkout the demo vid, mega awesomnessess
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 03, 2009, 14:05:19 PM
Quote from: dogberthttp://kotaku.com/5310586/new-mechwarrior-game-confirmed-will-reboot-series

 :wub: :rock: :nana: :wub: :rock: :nana: :wub: :rock: :nana: :wub:

Checkout the demo vid, mega awesomnessess

Already have.  Im a huge fan of the Battletech series, and when Jordan Weisman is involved in something then its likely to be awesome.  

Hes the inventor of Battletech, and he now owns Smith and Tinker, who are the brains behind the game.  This could be Very Much Fun.  Incidentally, its them that are allowing MekTek to release Mech4 for free!
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Leon on September 04, 2009, 14:59:40 PM
Quote from: Beakerallowing MekTek to release Mech4 for free!

If we ever see it actually happen at this rate :P
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Russell on September 04, 2009, 20:12:53 PM
Quote from: Dooms
Quote from: Beakerallowing MekTek to release Mech4 for free!

If we ever see it actually happen at this rate :P

Might be a big if going on this

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/102/1021438p1.html

Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on September 04, 2009, 21:23:15 PM
Bah, I thought that dispute is something that has been going on since Battletech/mechwarriors inception. For some reason the Madcat/timberwolf comes to mind, in terms of claims of the design originally being a robotech one or something?
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on September 05, 2009, 00:38:39 AM
Quote from: zpyderBah, I thought that dispute is something that has been going on since Battletech/mechwarriors inception. For some reason the Madcat/timberwolf comes to mind, in terms of claims of the design originally being a robotech one or something?

Ahh, the infamous unseen mechs.

This dispute has been going on for donkeys years. They just dropped the disputed mech designs (they were "phased out") and later they re-introduced them as re-designed updated models that did not infringe copyright any more.

The only problem is many of the disputed "unseen" mechs were pretty iconic designs like the warhammer, battlemaster, archer and marauder amongst others.

The mad cat was never an unseen.

Edit : Here you go http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on September 05, 2009, 08:49:06 AM
Aha, I was getting confused. I knew that the mechs were some of my faves from MW2:Mercs, like the Marauder I think. I just figured it was the MadCat as its my fave design haha.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on September 05, 2009, 09:30:24 AM
Its amazing how much some of those old Macross designs were re-used over the years though. I mean if you look at the Wasp unseen design its clearly the VF-1 thingy from Macross, and it also rather bizarrely ended up being used as the die-cast toy for Jetfire from Transformers even though it looks nothing like him. Lots of the Macross designs also ended up in Robotech as well, and were also used in various model kits that had nothing to do with any of the franchises themselves.

http://brianscache.com/unseen/
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 06, 2009, 01:37:37 AM
Quote from: Russell
Quote from: Dooms
Quote from: Beakerallowing MekTek to release Mech4 for free!

If we ever see it actually happen at this rate :P

Might be a big if going on this

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/102/1021438p1.html


Nah, MekTek have an official understanding with Harmony Gold to allow the release.  Were just being held up with some irritating problems at the moment.  Should be released ASAP.  
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Leon on September 06, 2009, 13:00:34 PM
Problem is when it was first announced that they were going to release mech4 for free everyone got really excited, it spread around the net, everyone started checking MekTek all the time but they took too long, everyone got bored of waiting and its all died down again.

If they had said it and then week later released they would of had so many more people downloading, playing, getting addicted to the online part again.. now they will get only a % of the original group.
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on September 06, 2009, 13:40:01 PM
Quote from: DoomsProblem is when it was first announced that they were going to release mech4 for free everyone got really excited, it spread around the net, everyone started checking MekTek all the time but they took too long, everyone got bored of waiting and its all died down again.

If they had said it and then week later released they would of had so many more people downloading, playing, getting addicted to the online part again.. now they will get only a % of the original group.

MekTek always take a million years to release things after making announcements, its incredibly frustrating.
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 06, 2009, 19:40:16 PM
Quote from: DoomsProblem is when it was first announced that they were going to release mech4 for free everyone got really excited, it spread around the net, everyone started checking MekTek all the time but they took too long, everyone got bored of waiting and its all died down again.

If they had said it and then week later released they would of had so many more people downloading, playing, getting addicted to the online part again.. now they will get only a % of the original group.

The problem was that they only knew 1 day before Smith & Tinker announced they would be releasing it for free.  All the work involved to polish it off has been a real pain for the devs.  Ive just been beta testing, and even that has thrown up some odd errors.  
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 06, 2009, 19:43:27 PM
Quote from: Chris HMekTek always take a million years to release things after making announcements, its incredibly frustrating.

its done in their spare time though, without the benefit of the source code.  They have to reverse engineer everything they are doing, then implement changes.  Way harder than working straight form the source.  
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on September 07, 2009, 00:29:58 AM
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Chris HMekTek always take a million years to release things after making announcements, its incredibly frustrating.

its done in their spare time though, without the benefit of the source code.  They have to reverse engineer everything they are doing, then implement changes.  Way harder than working straight form the source.  

Im not detracting from their hard work and dedication at all. I just wish theyd stop getting so excited and announcing that things will be released soon(tm), with soon being any time between the next twelve days and the next twelve months.
Title: One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Leon on September 07, 2009, 01:45:03 AM
Indeed Im agreeing with Chris. Before making some big uber announcement at least have an idea when your going to actually deliver.

Getting it wrong once or twice fine but every time?! :P
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Beaker on September 10, 2009, 16:54:04 PM
Stage one completed, and ready to rock.  


http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=142527


This is the root of what has been taking time, a full content delivery system for Mech4 : Mercs, will also be used to roll out Vengeance and Black Knight when those are complete.  Its got the ability to add further games to it for patching and updating.  Not a new idea, but its nice and slick.  

Ive known this and paperwork have been the main holdups, but NDA says I couldnt say anything until it was publicly announced.  
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on October 19, 2009, 10:21:08 AM
They are still taking their bloody time. I wish they would stop making announcements and getting everyone excited like this and then getting mired down in gods know what for ages until things get back on track.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on January 01, 2010, 09:46:03 AM
(http://9gag.com/photo/15849_full.jpg)
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Quixoticish on January 01, 2010, 17:27:09 PM
That is totally full of win. I am building my cat a mech as well now I think.
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: zpyder on January 01, 2010, 20:39:11 PM
I wonder if I could get my geck to pose on my 8" Joyride Madcat? :D
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Russell on January 03, 2010, 20:17:35 PM
Quote from: zpyder(Image removed from quote.)

Outstanding!
Title: Re:One for The Mech Heads
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on January 03, 2010, 22:21:58 PM
[ignorant] Are these things based on the ED209 robot in Robocop or is it the other way round? [/ignorant]

I see the top one has a rear gunner too :)

(http://9gag.com/photo/15849_full.jpg)