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Started by neXus, January 20, 2020, 01:12:17 AM

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Clock'd 0Ne

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Just a note on the Borg stuff as it's not really quite as inconsistent as you think.

Dr Crusher was able to remove most of Picard's Borg bits because he was only Borg for a few days and the nano-whatsits hadn't finished rewriting the DNA into anything un-salvageable, she says this herself in the TNG episode. He still has non-cosmetic implants in him.

The younger you are/the longer you've had them when you are implanted the less likelihood of them being able to be removed wholly or without the scars seen, which is why 7 has more/more visible.


Also quite disappointed we didn't get to see an ass-kicking at the end of the episode!

Serious

Which still has holes in it. We do know that Picard still has internal Borg technology, it allows him to communicate in some way with other Borg.

The only reason 7/9 still has external bits is to make it obvious she was Borg, a script ploy to remind people of her origins.

I guess they are just reserving the ass kicking, but there was plenty of options for a fight that never happened.

Still wondering if that poison gas was meant to kill or not.

Clock'd 0Ne

Quote from: Serious on March 06, 2020, 15:27:55 PM
Still wondering if that poison gas was meant to kill or not.

It's a good one that!

neXus

Quote from: Serious on March 06, 2020, 15:27:55 PM
Which still has holes in it. We do know that Picard still has internal Borg technology, it allows him to communicate in some way with other Borg.

The only reason 7/9 still has external bits is to make it obvious she was Borg, a script ploy to remind people of her origins.

I guess they are just reserving the ass kicking, but there was plenty of options for a fight that never happened.

Still wondering if that poison gas was meant to kill or not.


Has to be a cortical node which means thats a big chunk of brain.

Serious

Another very interesting episode, last Friday, I can see myself getting addicted if they keep this up.

Plenty on the Borg, reasons why the Romulans are so concerned about both the Borg and artificial life forms.

And Picard still has the leach stuck to his exhaust port.

Everything is in motion now, forces gathering. So how will it pan out? Will Discovery turn up in the next three episodes? I hope it doesn't :/

Clock'd 0Ne

I bloody hope not, I don't want any crossover bollocks. Keep the fan service to a few familiar faces.

But yes, its really in it's stride now!

neXus

Quote from: Serious on March 17, 2020, 01:05:49 AM
Another very interesting episode, last Friday, I can see myself getting addicted if they keep this up.

Plenty on the Borg, reasons why the Romulans are so concerned about both the Borg and artificial life forms.

And Picard still has the leach stuck to his exhaust port.

Everything is in motion now, forces gathering. So how will it pan out? Will Discovery turn up in the next three episodes? I hope it doesn't :/


I like the fact the season has a clear outline.


1. What has happened to characters we knew. Killed some, keeping others.
2. After Data AI in android form has been a thing
3. Romulans clearly have had issues with AI


I have appreciated the structure so far.

Serious

Seems to be a couple of scripting issues still going through.

Is it just me or does you know who escaping look like a scapegoat for someone else's crime? Does the escapee have the strength and knowledge to kill one of the androids?

Then why bother escaping if you have nowhere else to go?

Does this mean killing one of the new androids is effectively identical to murder? I think it would.

Fleet of Romulan warbirds on the way, that don't look like Romulan warbirds. Would have preferred the more traditional look.

Warning, to which side? Or maybe both sides get the wrong interpretation?

Serious

Managed to watch episode 10, end of series, and it was enjoyable.

Then it was also highly predictable, I mean, they tell you what is going to happen a long time before they do it. I heard some bits put forward a couple of weeks ago.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


The one disappointment was the alien machines that looked more like a bunch of mechanical worms. Then we have seen them previously. Could have been so much better.

neXus

Quote from: Serious on March 29, 2020, 09:15:43 AM
Managed to watch episode 10, end of series, and it was enjoyable.

Then it was also highly predictable, I mean, they tell you what is going to happen a long time before they do it. I heard some bits put forward a couple of weeks ago.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


The one disappointment was the alien machines that looked more like a bunch of mechanical worms. Then we have seen them previously. Could have been so much better.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Serious

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Quote from: neXus on March 30, 2020, 00:22:57 AM
Quote from: Serious on March 29, 2020, 09:15:43 AM
Managed to watch episode 10, end of series, and it was enjoyable.

Then it was also highly predictable, I mean, they tell you what is going to happen a long time before they do it. I heard some bits put forward a couple of weeks ago.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


The one disappointment was the alien machines that looked more like a bunch of mechanical worms. Then we have seen them previously. Could have been so much better.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.


Ship design often ended up advancing fast, so you might end up with ships initially intending to be identical but each ship benefited from the lessons learned from the previous ones, so could vary a lot. On top of that you get in life updates, improvements which were done to bring ships up to date but usually done on an individual ship. That meant even if ships were identical to start off with they often quickly ended up with variants. There are also a huge number of possible different uses for a ship so you would end up with a lot of different designs anyway.

Serious

Video on French pre-Dreadnaughts if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygXLnRAm-A

neXus

Quote from: Serious on March 30, 2020, 12:27:26 PM
Video on French pre-Dreadnaughts if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygXLnRAm-A


True, but it is still a change for the federation that built lots of different ships for different purposes. Lessons learned.

Serious

As with their cars the French were very odd in their designs of lots of things. Sometimes they got it right and others wrong.

The original Enterprise was a Constellation class ship and lots of them made, indeed when Enterprise was destroyed in The Search for Spock they got a new identical one in the next film. There are many times that multiple vessels of this class appeared and at least one somehow managed to take part in the battle of Wolf 359.

The fact they used many different ships at key battles was more use what you have available in an emergency rather than building different designs. Then different races would have different ideas about ship design, the Vulcan ships are obviously different from standard federation ships, and designs stuck around for a long time, getting updated and rebuilt. If you have limited models then it saves money too.

I am still wondering why they could not use a medical transporter to fix Picard, still looks like a scripting get out.

Clock'd 0Ne

Finally got round to watching the series finale. Thoroughly enjoyed it, some very satisfying conclusions. It would have been easy to pack in the fan service at this point or leave on a massive cliffhanger but they kept it true to form IMO.