Starting to appear, Aria have 1155 motherboards in stock as of yesterday.
i5-2500k (the unlocked one) is £172.
In totaly unrelated news my i5-760 went back to supplier along with the motherboard ;)
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Im way out of the loop with hardware now, what does Sandy Bridge bring to the table? Are we up to real working USB 3.0, sata 3 and hexcore CPUs yet?
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIm way out of the loop with hardware now, what does Sandy Bridge bring to the table? Are we up to real working USB 3.0, sata 3 and hexcore CPUs yet?
USB 3.0 is on the boards (nec chip) as is the new sata ports, the new i7-2600s are quad cores, but use hyperthreading to simulate 8, so erm close :lol:
ASUS P8P67 Pro Intel P67
MSI P67A-GD65 Intel P67
Im toying with these two, I would consider gigabyte but they for some reason dont have firewire ports :gag:
Aria are expecting i5-2500ks in on Tuesday.
Quote from: matt5cottQuote from: Clockd 0NeIm way out of the loop with hardware now, what does Sandy Bridge bring to the table? Are we up to real working USB 3.0, sata 3 and hexcore CPUs yet?
USB 3.0 is on the boards (nec chip) as is the new sata ports, the new i7-2600s are quad cores, but use hyperthreading to simulate 8, so erm close :lol:
ASUS P8P67 Pro Intel P67
MSI P67A-GD65 Intel P67
Im toying with these two, I would consider gigabyte but they for some reason dont have firewire ports :gag:
Aria are expecting i5-2500ks in on Tuesday.
Firewires dead. Nothing will be coming with it.
Its like complaining that they dont come with one of those larger com ports.
Quote from: soopahflyQuote from: matt5cottQuote from: Clockd 0NeIm way out of the loop with hardware now, what does Sandy Bridge bring to the table? Are we up to real working USB 3.0, sata 3 and hexcore CPUs yet?
USB 3.0 is on the boards (nec chip) as is the new sata ports, the new i7-2600s are quad cores, but use hyperthreading to simulate 8, so erm close :lol:
ASUS P8P67 Pro Intel P67
MSI P67A-GD65 Intel P67
Im toying with these two, I would consider gigabyte but they for some reason dont have firewire ports :gag:
Aria are expecting i5-2500ks in on Tuesday.
Firewires dead. Nothing will be coming with it.
Its like complaining that they dont come with one of those larger com ports.
I agree, but I have an old camcorder that uses it and frankly Id rather have it than not, had this not been the case I wouldnt have gave a crap :wub:
edit-> infact thinking about it, I may have given my brother this camcorder ages ago (I have a HD one) I better check :lol:
Quote from: matt5cottQuote from: Clockd 0NeIm way out of the loop with hardware now, what does Sandy Bridge bring to the table? Are we up to real working USB 3.0, sata 3 and hexcore CPUs yet?
USB 3.0 is on the boards (nec chip) as is the new sata ports, the new i7-2600s are quad cores, but use hyperthreading to simulate 8, so erm close :lol:
ASUS P8P67 Pro Intel P67
MSI P67A-GD65 Intel P67
Im toying with these two, I would consider gigabyte but they for some reason dont have firewire ports :gag:
Aria are expecting i5-2500ks in on Tuesday.
The more expensive Gigabyte option should have Firewire, the MSI boards are usually cheaper with more features, still very good boards and i would use either MSI, Gigabyte or Asus.
There is a good write up on Sandy Bridge here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/1
Will be upgrading my gaming computer to one in a few months I think, The i5-2500K looks great value with low power usage and highly overclock'able 8-)
The thing that interests me most after reading up about all this is the integrated graphics business. How will this compare to, say, my current Radeon HD4670 (I should add, for game peformance)?
Quote from: To answer my own question: Our performance tests with the high clocked mainstream version of the HD Graphics 3000 in quad-core processors showed a performance level on par with the current entry level generations from NVIDIA (e.g. GeForce 310M) and AMD (HD 5450). Some games even ran faster but still there are some driver glitches (like too dark scenes in Left 4 Dead 1&2 and Supreme Commander or not starting games like Mafia 2). See our extensive gaming review of the Intel HD Graphics 3000 for more details or at the end of this page for gaming benchmark scores.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html
Thats not bad if you ask me!
Native USB 3.0 wont be around until 2012 according to Shauns article though :?
Yeah thats damn impressive for something on chip :wub:
Well I went for a i5-2500k and ASUS P8P67 Pro in the end. Both on pre-order though, it seems most places are getting stock, then instantly selling out.
Couple that with the fact aria still have my graphics card 'for testing' and this could be quite a wait :-\
hi guys,just for your info plese check the ocuk forums,there is some info on the sandybridge regarding the correct ram to use and volts etc,a few ppl have blown theres in 2 days copy what they advice.
Hi there
Right guys myself and our technical guys have spent the entire weekend and this morning in discussions with Intel regarding the alarming amount of reports of Sandybridge CPU's dying and have been conducting our own testing as have Intel to find out what is a definite no no.
Sandybridge maximum safe voltages
Core Voltage - Not recommended too exceed 1.38v, doing so could kill the CPU, we therefor recommend a range of 1.325-1.350v if overclocking.
Memory Voltage - Intel recommend 1.50v plus/minus 5% which means upto 1.58v is the safe recommended limit. In our testing we have found 1.65v has caused no issues.
BCLK Base Clock - This is strictly a NO, anyone using base clock overclocking could/will cause damange to CPU/Mainboard.
PLL Voltage - Do not exceed 1.9v!!
Processor - Basically we recommend customers not to exceed 1.35v to play it safe, all our bundles are set at 1.3250v or lower, any competitors offering bundles above 4.6GHz you should be enquiring as to what voltage they are using as we believe anything over 1.38v will limit CPU lifespan and anything over 1.42v will likely kill the CPU or severely limit its lifespan.
Memory - Intel recommend 1.50v plus/minus 5% which means 1.60v is the ideal safe maximum, but we have found in our testing all 1.65v memory is fine. We have also found most new 1.65v like Corsair XMS3 will run at its rated timings with just 1.50-1.55v which is well within Intel specifications. So people upgrading to Sandybridge you can still use your old DDR3, but we do recommend you run it at 1.60v or less. We are shipping most of our bundles which feature Corsair XMS at 1.50v-1.55v at rated timings. We've also discussed with Asus and MSI regarding voltages for memory and they also confirm in their testing 1.65v caused no issues with reliability.
Base Clock - To put it simple if you value the life of your components, do not overclock using base clock!
PLL Voltage - Again do not exceed 1.9v!
These are just guidelines we recommend you follow, if you want to push more voltage through your CPU's then just be aware they could die on you. Your warranty is un-affected and we will honor any CPU's that die, we just won't ask questions as to how you killed them.
Not all CPU's are as fragile as others, we have experimented upto 1.50v Vcore and 1.70v memory and had zero issues with reliability, so it seems some of fine when pushing hard.
Just don't be silly with your overclocks and you will be fine :P
Intel Sandybridge Review (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/03/intel-sandy-bridge-review/1)
A guide to Overclocking the 2500K on Asus, Gigabyte and MSI Motherboards (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/07/how-to-overclock-the-intel-core-i5-2500k/1)
So what you all thinking is the best mb to get.
I'm still undecided on whether i can be bothered to OC or not. If not i might just go with one of the cheapest H57 boards, i only use a single GPU so it would be fine.
If i were to go P67 route, i would probably go for the Asus.
Yer I been reading up and I think I'm going to get a asus pro on the p67 and the i5 2500k as I only want a slight oc and I want it for gaming and bench test that beats a i7 setup.now just a nice person to help me build it lol
Quote from: Brian_A on January 10, 2011, 15:25:42 PM
Yer I been reading up and I think I'm going to get a asus pro on the p67 and the i5 2500k as I only want a slight oc and I want it for gaming and bench test that beats a i7 setup.now just a nice person to help me build it lol
Mine came this morning from Aria, I put the pre-order in Sunday night, and evidently got lucky and got one of mondays deliveries, it's at my house now ;D
Brian building a PC isn't overly challenging to be honest, most if not all connections nowadays are keyed so that you cannot plug them into the wrong place.
Quote from: Brian_A on January 10, 2011, 15:25:42 PM
Yer I been reading up and I think I'm going to get a asus pro on the p67 and the i5 2500k as I only want a slight oc and I want it for gaming and bench test that beats a i7 setup.now just a nice person to help me build it lol
If I still lived up north I'd be happy to give you a hand. matt5cott and the others are right though, it's actually very simple but does seem daunting the first time. As long as you follow the instructions in your motherboard manual you will be fine! The trickiest part is usually fitting the heatsink for the CPU, everything else is literally plug in and go (and lots of screwing :heehaw:).
I'll try and get a couple of decent high res shots of it, tbh it should be a piece of cake to copy the setup if you're getting the same gear.
Hi thanks for the advice,yer the cpu looks the hard part,I be using the h50 that was in my old pc as I'm told its the same bracket as my old 1156 mb,there just seems a lot of wires now I have stripped it down,but I'm going to give it ago,I been reading up on how to build your first pc on sites but they was 2yr old no upto date stuff but it gave me some idea,and I'm sure I can come and bug you guys if I get stuck where a cable goes ;D
Ok got it clocked at 4.7Ghz and just run superPi 32M run in 7 minutes 45
maximum CPU temp was 43c, oddly core 1 is 4/6c hotter than the others :-\
Current problem is the volts are a bit high (a few bits are set to auto) so I need to do some tweaking.
To be honest with the temps so low, I wouldn't be surprised to crank it more in a safe voltage range, amazing chips :drool:
Brian_A I'll bang some pics up tomorrow.
Though I don't see why you can't just run it at stock speeds for a bit so you don't have to use your phone, funnily enough at stock it's not exactly slow :))
Sounds good Matt,pleased you got it up and running,I am using my phone as I don't have anything else,I am only waiting on stock to come in at aria or tekheads I refuse to pay ocuk prices on principle that they bumped them up cos they have stock.will look forward to seeing pics :thumbup:
Quote from: Brian_A on January 12, 2011, 00:44:41 AM
Sounds good Matt,pleased you got it up and running,I am using my phone as I don't have anything else,I am only waiting on stock to come in at aria or tekheads I refuse to pay ocuk prices on principle that they bumped them up cos they have stock.will look forward to seeing pics :thumbup:
Its not the first time they have done this :P
PS Matt, all the companies i've seen doing pre-oc'd Sandybridge PC's are rating them at a stable 4.5Ghz-4.6Ghz day to day use clock.
Looking good Matt! hehe I checked my bank balance earlier I can see myself upgraded my gaming comp sooner then I was planning :rock:
Brian_A Ebuyer are expecting stock on the 14th http://www.ebuyer.com/product/252535 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/252535)
Thanks for the link :) I'm sure stock will be back to normal next week, that's the longest I can wait :rofl:
If you want the stupidly large 12 megapixel versions of these photos the direct link is below each picture, or goto http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-2 (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-2) and click the pictures twice (it will show a preview size the same as the below, click again for the full fat size)
IF YOU HAVE A COOLERMASTER STORM SNIPER CASE THE P8P67 WILL NOT LET YOU WORK ON IT USING THE CPU CUTOUT AS BELOW! THE HOLES ARE JUST OUT.
(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_11012011524.jpg)
http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011524.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011524.jpg)
Right, onwards to some general pictures.
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http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011508.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011508.jpg)
Boxes.
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http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011509.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011509.jpg)
Board overlay.
(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_11012011510.jpg)
http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011510.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011510.jpg)
Removing and installing the CPU is easy, as it says on the tab, use the tab at the bottom where it says REMOVE :thumbup:
(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_11012011517.jpg)
http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011517.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011517.jpg)
Put the CPU in, again stupidly easy, use the notches to line it up (again this is all in the motherboard manual)
(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_11012011520.jpg)
http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011520.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011520.jpg)
CPU sitting pretty, after this apply thermal paste, or not if you're using the stock intel jobbie (it has paste on the fan already)
(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_11012011521.jpg)
http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011521.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011521.jpg)
Take this piece of plastic off.
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http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011525.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011525.jpg)
Power plugged into the board, ignore the metal brackets either side of the CPU, these are for my noctua kit.
(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_11012011526.jpg)
http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011526.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/11012011526.jpg)
The manual is well written, and makes annoying speaker/power buttons stupidly easy to setup.
(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_12012011527.jpg)
http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/12012011527.jpg (http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/12012011527.jpg)
It should look a bit like that when done, well obviously not if you're going to be using a stock intel blower.
That's an nice photo writeup Matt :bow: What was your total spend on this build, its giving me upgrade itch!
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 12, 2011, 10:35:26 AM
That's an nice photo writeup Matt :bow: What was your total spend on this build, its giving me upgrade itch!
To be honest there's not much to say, a writeup as such isn't really relevant as it goes over it in great detail in the ASUS manual, and it's in clear english not chinglish, so fair play to them :) edit -> (I will do some overclocking stuff mind)
Cost wise; Essentials,
ASUS P8P67 Pro Intel P67 £140
Intel Core i5-2500K £173
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 £32
OCZ 60GB Vertex 2E SSD 2.5" SATA-II £75
Palit GeForce GTX 460 Sonic 1024MB £130
Stuff I needed because my previous machine is from 2002 odd (my 'main use' pc since years ago has been a laptop)
CM Storm Scout + Coolermaster Silent Pro 700W Modular PSU *Special Offer Bundle* £110
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 £43
Samsung SH-S223L 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM with LightScribe SATA Optical Drive £11
Logitech X-210 Speakers - 2.1 Channel 25W RMS £21
Noctua 120mm NF-P12 £17
Samsung HD204UI Spinpoint F4 2TB £55
£800 to build it from the ground up basically. Assumedly people out there will be upgrading so already have storage, PSUs/Cases etc, so it will cost a lot less. With that said, for the power I actually think that's a decent price.
I'd be looking at about £350 for my upgrade path including a new cooler.
How quiet do you rate the Noctua? I'm guessing the additional 120mm you purchased is some overkill for overcloking?
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 12, 2011, 10:52:23 AM
I'd be looking at about £350 for my upgrade path including a new cooler.
How quiet do you rate the Noctua? I'm guessing the additional 120mm you purchased is some overkill for overcloking?
YOU CANNOT PUT ME IN DE COOLER.(http://www.digitalbusstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Mr-Freeze.jpg)
I've read you can overclock all cores to 4.5GHz using the stock intel blower which comes with it, might get a bit warm mind, but that's still a brutal amount of crunching power :thumbup:
I love Noctua gear, I am running without the inline resistors (LNA low noise adaptor is in the box) and with both the sides off and it's quiet :D
NF-P12s I have a big soft spot for, I use 2 on my xbox 360, and the additional one is going to be mounted on the side providing an additional vent for the graphics card, likely overkill tbh but in for a penny, in for a pound 8)
LOL.
I'm all about quiet these days. My PC is near silent now as I'm using a passive graphics card, the stock intel cooler I have is the whiny little let down. I'd probably get the same cooler especially as the brackets make it easier to fit, that pushpin business is not very good at all.
Nice Matt, thanks for the write up :thumbup: really tempted to bite the bullet and get it from ocuk
Quote from: Brian_A on January 12, 2011, 13:24:44 PM
Nice Matt, thanks for the write up :thumbup: really tempted to bite the bullet and get it from ocuk
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel+Core+I5+%281155%29/Intel+Core+i5-2500K+3.30GHz+%28Sandybridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=43216 (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/Intel+Core+I5+%281155%29/Intel+Core+i5-2500K+3.30GHz+%28Sandybridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=43216)
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Intel+1155+P67/ASUS+P8P67+Pro+Intel+P67+%28Socket+1155%29+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=42939 (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/Intel+1155+P67/ASUS+P8P67+Pro+Intel+P67+%28Socket+1155%29+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=42939)
Aria have both in stock now, and I believe are cheaper, but you pays your money you takes your choice.
I would choose Aria every time over OCUK, don't give them the satisfaction on their price hikes Brian :))
Still shop mainly from Scan due to the free delivery (Hexus user) and good customer service when I've had to call them :)
Yer I know just priced it up and aria are still £9 cheaper with delivery costs included the cpu alone is nearly £15 more at ocuk so much for free delivery :thumbdown:what cpu paste would you guys recommend.
Everyone uses Arctic Silver to my knowledge, unless something better has come along?
Quote from: Brian_A on January 12, 2011, 14:14:32 PM
Yer I know just priced it up and aria are still £9 cheaper with delivery costs included the cpu alone is nearly £15 more at ocuk so much for free delivery :thumbdown:what cpu paste would you guys recommend.
I take it you're going for a half decent heatsink/fan, I use Noctua NT-H1 but that came with my Noctua cooler, it seems to be reviewed well though.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 12, 2011, 14:16:38 PM
Everyone uses Arctic Silver to my knowledge, unless something better has come along?
I thought the same, but Artic Silver 5 is 'old school' now apparantly :-\ despite this mind, it's still pretty good :thumbup:
Artic Silver 5 on my last build.
thanks for the info :)i,m going to use the h50 that was in my old system it fits the new 1155 same scocket as 1156 so thought i save a bit of money and use that,or should i change it.
Yeah it will fit, so if you're happy with it, keep it Wub
h50 is still a very good cooler and theres no reason not to reuse it (unless your keeping your old rig as a 2nd machine :))
The Titan Fenrir seem to be used quite widely, and i also use AS5, but still have the odd "Big Tube of White Gunk" left over from Guru. :D
Indeed the Fenrir seems to be a good choice but boy is it BIG!
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2v3h5ys.jpg)
Personally planning on getting a v2 H50 when I got the spare cash
You might want to wait this is due anytime now
http://www.corsair.com/hydro-series-h60.html
Ah cool I didn't know they were doing a H60. The H70 is a bit too much for what I want and this looks like a revised block / pump over the h50. I won't be buying for a while and will look into things again closer to the date (these should be out by then :))
The H70 certainly hasnt been as popular as the H50 - the main thing is the sizing a think most people have had an issue with the H70. The fenrir is a great bang for buck cooler, theres quite a few reviews out there on it. The other cooler to look at is the prolimatech megahalems and the thermaltake frio (recent custom pc award winner).
On a shameless plug a 2500k and the p8p67 pro board is £5 cheaper from tekheads with free delivery :) plus if you ask nicely ill send you a mafia2 full game download code by pm :)
Lol Andy free delivery is good,but I be a bit lazy seeing as you only 5 mins from me,I'm sure you be seeing me very soon ;D
hmm it now seems tere is a problem with fitting the h50 to the asus board.
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=92332
A one on one covering UEFI and overclocking with the guy from 'asooos' :))
lol beat me 2 it,but it still lost me :dunno:
Quote from: Brian_A on January 12, 2011, 23:12:50 PM
lol beat me 2 it,but it still lost me :dunno:
How? it says go into the BIOS and click the icon with flames on it for a optimal overclock of about 4.5Ghz then hit save or F10! watch from 5 mins in.
yer i watched 10 mins or more,then stopped to post it on here, but you beat me to it,tbh my head is spining with reading about all the problems ppl are having with this board,i really want to get the stuff and be up and running,but i think its going to be to much for my limited knowledge on pc hardware etc,i try and ring round a few pc shops tomorrow see how much they charge me to build if i supply the parts.
It sounds like you are reading way too much into it. It seems to me from my knowledge that the new hardware is incredibly easy to work with. It's literally a case of buy the board and processor and some XMS memory, fit it all, power up, into the new type of BIOS and click 'Super Fire TURBO mode', save and done! High peformance in moments.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 12, 2011, 23:35:55 PM
It sounds like you are reading way too much into it. It seems to me from my knowledge that the new hardware is incredibly easy to work with. It's literally a case of buy the board and processor and some XMS memory, fit it all, power up, into the new type of BIOS and click 'Super Fire TURBO mode', save and done! High peformance in moments.
Yup exactly, it's easy to read into all the advanced tuning options and think OMG, but don't run before you can walk the auto mode is indeed a breeze :)
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 12, 2011, 23:35:55 PM
It sounds like you are reading way too much into it. It seems to me from my knowledge that the new hardware is incredibly easy to work with. It's literally a case of buy the board and processor and some XMS memory, fit it all, power up, into the new type of BIOS and click 'Super Fire TURBO mode', save and done! High peformance in moments.
well i,m just reading what ppl have wrote on forums and they seem to know what they doing,and have just done what you said,but alot can,t even get it to bootup to bios,and they have tried all ways,i,m worried if this happens to me im left with a pc that i can,t sort,having to rma stuff back tht migt be faulty or not i wouldn,t be able to test it like some have to rule at hardware,if i get a shop to build it they atleast get it up and running for me,i can then watch video's etc on how to oc.
Fair point Brian, if you're worried reliability is an issue and you're not sure then I can see where you're coming from.
Don't get me wrong i really like to give it a go,but with someone next to me with knowledge in case things don,t work,God i wish i had me old pc,i had a m8 build it for me,only tok him a hour or so,and it never missed a beat from first bootup till i stupidly blew it up,best pc i ever owned,wish he lived round here now i been back up and running.. :(
Yeah I see what you mean now, if people are having those kind of problems using these special optimised settings then clearly its not working so well as 'asooos' would hope.
yer i think alot is down to it being new,asus will realease a new bios update soon,and i think that sort most problems out for alot of ppl,i,m desperate to get my pc up and running again,but i was hoping there be no problems,there is quite alot on ocuk and on the asus forums,thats the only thing thats stopping me,i could have the parts here tomorrow tekheads have the stuff and they only 5 mins down the road from me,im so tempted to go get it,but then i,m worried if i do i end up in the same mess as others and still be without a pc,i,m pleased matt got his going first time and i might be fine as well,its that IF that worrys me.here is a example anotherr new thread in ocuk.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=18215466#post18215466
(http://www.chasethedevil.co.uk/img/sandy.jpg)
Here's some clock figures, this is pretty much my 'base' clock at the minute, oddly enough superPI doesn't stress the cores out properly, so I just left it crunching seti@home for a while to get the temps up :tinhat:
ohhhhhhhhh i think it's time for me to upgrade :o
what's it like to use ? noticeably fast ?
core2duo at 4.3ghz here.... will i notice the difference ?
Quote from: knighty on January 13, 2011, 00:36:55 AM
what's it like to use ? noticeably fast ?
core2duo at 4.3ghz here.... will i notice the difference ?
Oh aye yeah, I mean I only built it for email and browsing the web but I've never been so productive in Farmville.
(http://www.chasethedevil.co.uk/img/sandy2.jpg)
I lowered the VCORE slightly and it's still stable, for now this is what it's staying at. The temps are higher as LinX is the only thing to properly stress the setup, the higher temps are a result of running this, superPi gets nowhere near these temps :lol:
I've done a lot more reading now and am comfortable with the new UEFI bios.
The reason chips have been dying appears to be the fact you can dump far far far too many volts through VCORE than is even sensible, 1.35v is a suggested limit, this Asus board will put 1.9v through it if you tell it too :o
Example, if you leave everything on AUTO, and set the target to 4.8Ghz it will ramp the VCORE to slightly above 1.4v when in turbo mode, already unsafe, lord knows how high it will go if you say ok aim for 5.0Ghz on AUTO :gag:
AUTO overclocking I found is safe up to 4.5Ghz, anything beyond that it starts to get dicey, and you need to manually set it up really, I think this is where the problem lies for many and why there are reports of a few fried chips :heehaw:
If you're happy to put the volts in, you can crack 5.0GHz, I however am not, I don't want it to last 5 minutes :wave:
Sound advice Matt,I not want to be overclocking mine any higher than 4.5 anyway :D
anyone know if i can get waterblocks to fit any of the new motherboards ?
I was just about to order.... but then realised i can't find any water blocks to fit.... there's a few which might fit.... but I'd rather not chance it... i was expecting to find some reviews with other people already water-cooled so i could just copy them..... but can't find anything :(
Quote from: knighty on January 15, 2011, 23:00:44 PM
anyone know if i can get waterblocks to fit any of the new motherboards ?
I was just about to order.... but then realised i can't find any water blocks to fit.... there's a few which might fit.... but I'd rather not chance it... i was expecting to find some reviews with other people already water-cooled so i could just copy them..... but can't find anything :(
I was under the impression its exactly the same as 1156 tbh.
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/home.php?cat=1301
Specialtech has loads in stock, but tbh i would assume they are 1156 blocks, maybe you can confirm it. :P
Same fittings as 1156 yes, I used my noctua 'intel' kit and it worked the same as it did on an older board :ptu:
i think my chip block fits, it's the motherboard chips / mofset thingamabobs I'm thinking about :-o
for anyone who has the asus motherboards there is a new bios out,it came out not long ago but seems they have sorted the major problems ppl where having,so i,m ready to go get my stuff now at last ;D
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578865
Yes, cold booting issues fixed :thumbup: :cheers:
in case anyone is looking to get one...
Intel Core i7 2600K Sandy Bridge *OEM* Unlocked, Socket 1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.4 GHz, 8MB Cache, 95W, OEM £246.20 Scan (http://www.hotukdeals.com/visit?m=1695&q=860393)
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/intel-core-i7-2600k-sandy-bridge-oem-unlocked-socket-1155-sandy-bridge-quad-core/860393 (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/intel-core-i7-2600k-sandy-bridge-oem-unlocked-socket-1155-sandy-bridge-quad-core/860393)
Not sure if this is a great deal, I haven't bought a CPU in years, so a little out of touch... If it is then someone can post it in bargains :)
With Aria doing OEM i5 2500k for 156 quid, I have just ordered one with a few other bits:
ASUS P8P67 Pro, has 4x 6Gbps ports which is plenty for me.
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz
2 x Asus HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 OC Graphics Card
Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator and Fan CPU Cooler
Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz
Gelid GC-Extreme Cutting Edge Thermal Compound
Decided I might as well go to DX11 card's while I was at it and the cooler looks a real beast!
Having looked at matt5cott's results I thought the numbers looked good, but having not ran any benchmarks in some time I decided to fire up the same apps and see what my desktop and laptop got. The results are utterly depressing for me:
Desktop, E8400 @ 3Ghz, 8Gb DDR2 PC8500 + HD4670
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4765/desktopuk.png)
Brand new laptop, Intel i3 + 6Gb DDR3 + dedicated HD5650
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3276/laptopy.png)
I didn't think my hardware was that old (it certainly doesn't feel old/slow) but looking at those numbers up above again... :'(
Also has anyone else noticed the CPU core speed and multiplier seems to jump around a lot in cpu-z?
To be fair your desktop is 2 generations old now, I just looked on Wikipedia and Wolfdales were released on January 20 2008, I was an early adapter and picked one up within a month or 2 and it didn't feel old or slow in my gaming PC just before I upgraded, tbh I was more than happy with it, I didn't feel any real need to upgrade until the NDA was lifted on Sandy Bridge then I was astonished by the performance numbers that were reported.
Think the thing is the speed of hardware has vastly outstripped the gains in software and games over the last few years, so the usable life expectancy of hardware is a lot longer. 10 years or so ago a midrange PC was out of date within 18 months or so, now I think that usable life time is far longer.
The speed dropping at idle in CPU-Z is Speedstep at work.
If you want to freshen things up get a SSD for it and you could always overclock it, most Wolfdales hit 3.6GHz even with modest cooling, 3.8 or 4GHz if you're lucky.
I've had problems with this baord (ASUS IP-35 PRO XE) and keeping my system stable with my memory - at the time it was the fastest available RAM and few boards could take it - there doesn't seem to be settings I can change to keep my memory divided correct vs 333Mhz FSB (1066Mhz) AND crank up the chip, as the multipler only goes up to 9 :( So I'm giving up on trying to overclock it at all.
Good points there though, Shaun. I was talking about this last night with knighty, SSDs definitely seem to be the biggest noticeable speed improvement you can make in a system now, as aside from Photoshop, sound/video editing and WinRAR who actually does anything demanding/time consuming with their PC really? Games don't need a monster CPU after all. Other than an SSD I can't see me needing to really upgrade for a long time actually. My laptop feels just as powerful even though the numbers would suggest it is slower, I put that all down to these impressive architecture improvements, it's quite funny that my laptop seems to have a more capable graphics card than my main rig, but I chose that one for silence (it's a Sapphire Ultimate heatpipe card).
Consider me a n00b, what's Speedstep?
Read about speedstep here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedStep
The board you have was one of the best 35 chipset boards for OC'ing IIRC, the way around the divider issue is to run high enough that the Ram fall back into around the right speed using a slower divider, so instead of running stock speed of 9 x 333, try run it at 8 x400 using the next slower divider so the ram would still run at around 1066, I ran my Wolfdale at 9 x 445 with the ram a bit slower than rated speed because the extra clock speed give more performance than the loss on the Ram, you would more than likely need to increase the chipset voltage a bit as well to get it too that speed.
But yep SSD do make a big difference I was surprised how much of a upgrade it was from raptors in Raid0 :)
Now you have explained it like that, it seems completely obvious and I don't know why I didn't think of that before! :lol: Well I might have a go later on and see if I can juice it up a bit more now :yarr:
Hi guys,Well now the sandybridge b3 motherboards are in stock tomorrow is the day i go to tekheads and get my bits to build,Wish me luck cos i think i need it... :panic: