Are PC monitors available yet with 'retina' equivalent resolution?
Not sure actually but all I can say is my macbook pro is dam sexy! lol.
Thing though - Firefox is not updated for it and looks crap an when you run apps that do not support it they look DIRE!
Would not rush into it.
It's a big gimmick really. Any screen could be 'retina' standard, its not so much about the resolution but about the PPI. More pixels condensed into smaller screen space = invisible to naked eye = retina. That's why you can only get iPads and small Macbooks with it as to get a cinema display with retina would need a 4k resolution or something daft.
Plus as Nexus says, unless the apps or sites you visit use vector graphics or update all their graphics for higher resolution support you will see no difference or fugliness. I'd not make a point of having it.
One of the deciding factors on which tablet pc I got was screen size & and resolution. I started to get drawn to the ones with the highest res, but then I read customer reviews which pointed out that most things aren't designed for those high resolutions yet, and when things are, the actual device struggles to process them.
It'll be interesting to see what screens are like in a few years time, half expect manufacturers to keep going up in ppi way past the point noticeable to the human eye!
Yeah, stupid massive resolutions sound amazing until you factor in that nothing makes use of the resolution or real estate offered, which is what always put me off getting a 30" display (other than the price!). 1080p capable screens are fine, there is no realistic need for most people to have screens that operate over 1920x1200. Working in Photoshop, etc I could possibly use more resolution sometimes, but not enough to warrant the outlay.
Agreed, It did amuse me that the Retina Macbooks have such a silly resolution, than the software people effectively have to double up the rendered menu's to make them readable.
The 2880 x 1800 pixel panel gets treated as a by OSX 1440 x 900 to deal with the fact we don't have superman vision.
Ultimately Retina is a marketing term, not a designated DPI, it's apple that classify is something is Retina or not, IPad mini is 132DPI and that was not classified as Retina.
Quote from: zpyder on January 03, 2013, 15:44:01 PM
One of the deciding factors on which tablet pc I got was screen size & and resolution. I started to get drawn to the ones with the highest res, but then I read customer reviews which pointed out that most things aren't designed for those high resolutions yet, and when things are, the actual device struggles to process them.
It'll be interesting to see what screens are like in a few years time, half expect manufacturers to keep going up in ppi way past the point noticeable to the human eye!
My iPad has a retina display, plenty of apps now designed for it and the games run impeccably fast. :/ can't speak for other tablets but for iPads its definitely worth getting over and above non retina,
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 03, 2013, 10:37:44 AM
It's a big gimmick really. Any screen could be 'retina' standard, its not so much about the resolution but about the PPI. More pixels condensed into smaller screen space = invisible to naked eye = retina. That's why you can only get iPads and small Macbooks with it as to get a cinema display with retina would need a 4k resolution or something daft.
Plus as Nexus says, unless the apps or sites you visit use vector graphics or update all their graphics for higher resolution support you will see no difference or fugliness. I'd not make a point of having it.
Have to disagree with you on most of this mate. If you sat using my macbook pro you would know. They are awesome and I have seen a 4k TV that is awesome! Can not tell to much long distance for those TV's but a normal room, I think it is the thing to have over 3D in the near future.
I'm not disputing the quality of the display, I'm just saying there is nothing special going on other than massive resolution - while I'm sure they look great there is not enough need to pay a massive premium for that type of display unless you have money to burn.
If say we can only spot pixels up to 300ppi, is it still possible to notice a difference between say a screen at 350ppi and 400ppi?
Most people can't tell the difference between a badly calibrated screen and a properly calibrated one, at the sort of level being talked about it turns into willy waving IMO.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 08, 2013, 15:10:02 PM
Most people can't tell the difference between a badly calibrated screen and a properly calibrated one, at the sort of level being talked about it turns into willy waving IMO.
Sort of like some of the audiophiles on here ;) "oh but my ety xxxs have a frequency response that covers that range of frequencies only dogs can hear I find it makes all the difference" :p
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 08, 2013, 15:10:02 PM
Most people can't tell the difference between a badly calibrated screen and a properly calibrated one, at the sort of level being talked about it turns into willy waving IMO.
General images - No can not tell.
A logo - DEFIANTLY CAN TELL!
Text - MASSIVE difference in text rendering.
Edges basically, you certain notice edges and you can defiantly tell on the web the difference between a well made CSS site and one that is not and uses heaps of images etc. Makes you want to do css3 gradients etc and pixel double your logo's etc.
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on January 08, 2013, 18:27:05 PM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on January 08, 2013, 15:10:02 PM
Most people can't tell the difference between a badly calibrated screen and a properly calibrated one, at the sort of level being talked about it turns into willy waving IMO.
Sort of like some of the audiophiles on here ;) "oh but my ety xxxs have a frequency response that covers that range of frequencies only dogs can hear I find it makes all the difference" :p
What can I say, I'm blessed with great aural and visual acuity :P Besides which, there's a clear difference between £10 earplugs and those - or one screen and another - it's not like comparing cables which I've never bought into.
Soon enough I'm sure every screen will retina standard, then no one will be able to tell the difference. Fact.
A laptop, a Phone, A tablet - You notice.
19-40 inch - Questionable notice.
That is why these new 4k Tv's will likely start at no less then 51inch and higher. You will notice it then
http://www.tested.com/tech/tvs/452790-ces-2013-30-inch-monitors-offer-4k-you-should-actually-care-about/
I would not say no to this though :P
ViewSonic, 32-inch, 3840x2160 panel is LED backlit
Again, it looks lovely but at the moment has no practical uses. Give it 3-5 years and then I'll be buying one 8)
Like the article said - video editing and photo editing - yep yep. And that price, yes will be a few years.
But we will all be rocking and loving retina type displays really soon :)