Apparently tommorow morning at 9am we will see a press release circulating that the new Xbox will have a BluRay drive by Xmas
Priced under the current Elite model.
Source Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5014349/rumor-microsoft-to-announce-blu+ray-xbox-on-monday)
I cant say im surprised, i read a rumour back along that MS had already registered a patent for this, after the HD-DVD, BluRay fiasco.
Hmm, announce it the same day as iPhone 2? Doesnt sound like good timing to get the message out.
Considering its only June, i dont think they will have a problem getting the msg out before xmas :P
True, but considering its only June it would be an awesome way to kill 360 sales for six months.
Id offer dollars to pesos this isnt true.
Quote from: GoblinTrue, but considering its only June it would be an awesome way to kill 360 sales for six months.
Id offer dollars to pesos this isnt true.
Thinking from that perspective id be more inclined to agree with you
If they are an extra bolt on that interfaces with *any* X-box 360 its more likely to encourage people to buy one than not.
If its a single inclusive unit then I would suspect M$ would keep their mouths tightly stitched up.
I was under the impression that the Product Line manager of 360 catagorically denied any intention to develop a BR drive the X-Box several times in the past. This would make more sense consider Microsoft seem to really pushing the online download boat with their Markeplace.
...not that I dont want it to happen. Preferabbly a new built in unit while they sort out other hardware issue in the process.
I think if they ever do decide to go with Blue ray it will be a standalone unit, from a business point of view selling it as an addon will probably net them more profit.
They might even be able to utilize some of that dead stock hd-dvd standalones they have by converting the internals to blue ray :P
Quote from: BaconI think if they ever do decide to go with Blue ray it will be a standalone unit, from a business point of view selling it as an addon will probably net them more profit.
They might even be able to utilize some of that dead stock hd-dvd standalones they have by converting the internals to blue ray :P
This seems the sensible way to do it.
I dont think they will let Sony have the "Our console can play Blu Ray and no one elses can" cake for ever. Its a PS3 > XBox point which there is no reason for them to allow to persist.
Quote from: BaconI think if they ever do decide to go with Blue ray it will be a standalone unit, from a business point of view selling it as an addon will probably net them more profit.
They might even be able to utilize some of that dead stock hd-dvd standalones they have by converting the internals to blue ray :P
Probably but then they said if the demand is for it they will consider it and you will see a lot of us with the hd-dvd stand alone moan that they can not get access to the new feature so they will do be it same time/before or after.
As you say there will have hd-dvd shells a plenty I bet so they could use them.
Probably all still fake going on a couple of peoples opinions on these forums mind :P
Rumour was confirmed as fake before 9AM this morning :P
But still, it will happen sooner or later.
^ Nah.
All (and I mean everything) that you read / hear coming from MS / Xbox regarding this topic is that they are more than happy with the amount of money they are making from Digtal Downloads and that this is the direction theyll be going. (They are releasing a tool in June that will sort out the DRM porting problems people have moving between consoles.)
Why would they bother putting the money into a device that they have to license when they can just print money by selling downloadables ?
If 10 people were to buy a bluray player for the 360, that would take world sales of bluray players up to what - 14 or 15 ?
They MIGHT even break the 20 discs sold barrier by August
Blue ray sold a lot more disks than HD-DVD, only problem is there isnt the user base yet. In a poll only 9% of Americans with HDTV said they were going to buy a blueray player.
Quote from: SeriousBlue ray sold a lot more disks than HD-DVD, only problem is there isnt the user base yet. In a poll only 9% of Americans with HDTV said they were going to buy a blueray player.
I think these decisions were based solely on uncertainty, being that HD-Dvd and BluRay were both contenders to who would take the top spot. Now HD-Dvd is out of the picture, and in time, most likely a timescale of a few years as we see BluRay push itself firmly into the market, i.e. mass produced discs are circulated into the market, to include budget / lower priced titles making it and accessible option for people of all walks of life, and cheaper more mainstream players, dvd will eventually slip off of number 1 spot, much like the Betamax > VCR changeover, and VCR > DVD changeover. Now that HD-Dvd is going (soon to be gone) BluRay will be the only choice.
I know for sure i wont be buying a standalone BluRay player unless its cheap, cus im cheapskate, and the fact that i can get the discs cheap, or its part and packaged with a console, but that means i will be buying one, just not an expensive one :P
Thats the point, why buy an expensive HD player when the old DVD does adequately for most people, same as Hi-Fi.
Quote from: SeriousThats the point, why buy an expensive HD player when the old DVD does adequately for most people, same as Hi-Fi.
Always here this from people who never sit down and try, heard the same with tape to dvd and tape to cd music and cd to mp3
Quote from: neXusQuote from: SeriousThats the point, why buy an expensive HD player when the old DVD does adequately for most people, same as Hi-Fi.
Always here this from people who never sit down and try, heard the same with tape to dvd and tape to cd music and cd to mp3
Serious still uses Betamax :P
Quote from: neXusQuote from: SeriousThats the point, why buy an expensive HD player when the old DVD does adequately for most people, same as Hi-Fi.
Always here this from people who never sit down and try, heard the same with tape to dvd and tape to cd music and cd to mp3
But if you dont have a HDTV then there isnt any reason at all to buy a HD player. Old TVs cant display the resolution, so unless you want to pick upa new TV at the same time its just not worth it. Also you have to think that to take full advantage of the players youll pretty much have to replace your entire DVD collection. Now I dont have all that many films, but it would still cost the neck-end of £2k for me to replace them all in BluRay format, and thats only if they are actually available in BluRay.
Why would buy a HD player of any description if you dont have a HD display ? - Pointless.
If you own a HD TV why wouldnt you spend the money to own the kit that gets the most out of your TV ? - Anyone who says that standard DVD on a HD TV is comparable has either never watched a HD movie on a HD screen OR they need to go to Specsavers.
I had my HD screen for a few months before I got a HD-DVD player.
Initially I was using a Scart DVD player and letting the screen upscale standard DVD. It looked alright; better than my cable TV picture. I then bought a HDMI upscaling DVD player and it looked better, it was good.
Then I bought a HD-DVD player (and some HDDVDs), the quality difference was astounding.
Ive since found that I can hook my cable box up to the TV over component which gives a slightly better picture but nothing comes close to watching a HD source on my HD screen.
http://www.gamestation.co.uk/discountaddall.asp?discountid=396
360 hd-dvd +3 hd-dvds for £35 inc del
Run that badboy through your pc, over to your tv, el cheapo hd :P
I think the difference this time around is that DVD looks great unless you sit it right next to Blu-Ray.
Im not saying that Blu-Ray wont eventually become the dominant format, but its going to have a harder time of it than DVD did and its going to take longer. VHS looked and sounded pretty terrible even on standard def TVs with mono sound. DVDs look and sound great and you need flashy kit to take advantage of the benefit going to Blu-Ray.
Quote from: MongooseI think the difference this time around is that DVD looks great unless you sit it right next to Blu-Ray.
Im not saying that Blu-Ray wont eventually become the dominant format, but its going to have a harder time of it than DVD did and its going to take longer. VHS looked and sounded pretty terrible even on standard def TVs with mono sound. DVDs look and sound great and you need flashy kit to take advantage of the benefit going to Blu-Ray.
Agree with this totally. Of course HD looks better but 2 mins into a standard DVD your immersed in the film and it doesnt make any difference.
Ive been watching 1080p HD content on my 24" monitor, and I have to say the difference is day and night to DVD quality! Ive watched a few films now and it takes the immersion factor to a whole new level with the amount of detail you can see. Im even more set on investing in a quality HD panel sometime next year and going all BluRay and such.
Maybe on a 28" screen at two metres away you wouldnt be fussed by the difference, but Im sure anyone with a large panel, say 40" would certainly see it worthwhile.
You cant really compare this argument to hifi though, even low end hifi equipment will sound good to the untrained ear. I would hope most peoples visual acuity is better than their aural acuity...
Quote from: NimrodWhy would buy a HD player of any description if you dont have a HD display ? - Pointless.
You would be surprised. A prick I know has bought a PS3, and tells us all how much better the picture is watching a Blu-Ray than a DVD.