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Soopah's Journey into Windows 8

Started by soopahfly, May 24, 2012, 09:37:26 AM

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soopahfly

I've been avoiding most of the tech blogs when it comes to Windows 8, as I've been waiting to try it for myself and not be clouded by what others think of it.
Installed two days ago on my Laptop, a Dell Inspiron 1764 (Core i3 330M, 4Gb Ram, 500Gb Hdd and Intel HD Graphics)

It's smooth, but any freshly installed OS always is. The first thing that strikes you is how counter productive it is.
This thing is not easy to use at all!
Case in point :


It seems to rely heavily on keyboard shortcuts, if you're not using a touch screen.
First impression is it is a big step up from previous touch enabled Windows builds, but I don't think it's going to take off.
Expect to see more people using Mac's and Linux.

Anyway, starting the transformation...
I've installed ViStart which emulates the Windows 7 start menu with a few tweaks as Start8 brings up a small version of the Metro UI and it just doesn't work.

More to come

Clock'd 0Ne

I thought you could simply disable the Metro UI and have 'classic' Windows Explorer view?

I will be in absolutely no rush to install Windows 8, I don't see it as innovative at all and the way it looks like it's shaping up is aimed for the smartphone/iphone generation with everything useful being presented in a more and more obscure way. I hate things for the smartphone/iphone generation.

Literally the only thing to have really impressed me so far is pausable/staggered file copying, but I won't be updating Windows just for that.

zpyder

But won't it follow the hit miss  hit cycle of MS OS's? I'm sure i've got the order wrong and missed some but What is it?

H 3.11
M 95
H 98
M 2000
H XP
M VISTA
H 7

Clock'd 0Ne

You've missed out Me, which I rated highly as a decent gamers OS but everyone else seemed to hate/slate.

soopahfly

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on May 24, 2012, 09:45:07 AM
I thought you could simply disable the Metro UI and have 'classic' Windows Explorer view?


You could on the Developers preview, the Consumer preview has no such luck.
If you disable the Metro UI with a third party tool you lose a lot of the apps that run in Metro Mode.  Remote Desktop for example.

M3ta7h3ad

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on May 24, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
You've missed out Me, which I rated highly as a decent gamers OS but everyone else seemed to hate/slate.
and se

98 was crap 98se was good

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Eggtastico

Quote from: zpyder on May 24, 2012, 10:21:47 AM
But won't it follow the hit miss  hit cycle of MS OS's? I'm sure i've got the order wrong and missed some but What is it?

H 3.11
M 95
H 98
M 2000
H XP
M VISTA
H 7
95h
98m
98SE h
me m
w2k m
xp h
vista m
7 h

Clock'd 0Ne

Win 2k was rock solid, built on NT. What was wrong with it?

bear

#8
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on May 24, 2012, 23:17:17 PM
Win 2k was rock solid, built on NT. What was wrong with it?
XP came no ME was in betwix but 2k was not intended for home use.  it is still, NT 5.x or something, now isn't it ? wait no w7 has NT 6.1 and 8 has NT 6.2 kernel :)

Shaun

I used Win2k for a good few years it was slightly faster than XP and used less resource, drivers where an issue to start with as performance parts manufactures didn't do drivers for the OS as it was considered just for office use, but after XP came out that stopped being an issue due to the fact you could use the XP drivers on it with little issues.

Didn't stop using it until XP 64 came out which was slightly faster.

Serious

#10
Quote from: soopahfly on May 24, 2012, 11:27:15 AM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on May 24, 2012, 09:45:07 AM
I thought you could simply disable the Metro UI and have 'classic' Windows Explorer view?


You could on the Developers preview, the Consumer preview has no such luck.
If you disable the Metro UI with a third party tool you lose a lot of the apps that run in Metro Mode.  Remote Desktop for example.

I certainly tried my best in the Consumer Preview without success.

If anyone thinks that the video isn't realistic that is exactly the initial problem I had, except for me it was the opposite, I knew about the corner click and then got stuck in the apps. Finding out how to switch the F**king thing off was a right pain, I only managed that by accident.

I certainly can see some advantages with Win 8 if you have a touch screen. Without it I found that Win 7 was actually easier to use. Some bits were particularly unintuitive and initially it was far too easy to get stuck in the Apps. The absence of a start button and X close buttons is going to confuse a lot of users.

Eggtastico

w2k had lots of software compatibility problems.
Wasnt really usable as a home/allround pc. lots of games n stuff wouldt run on it.
Not really the OS fault, but it failed to take off - hence  miss

Clock'd 0Ne

Fair points on Win2k guys, I used it for a few years and even gamed on it but you're right there were some with lack of driver support, but I do remember how rock solid it was compared to the home OSes. For those it was suitable for it was what all the other OSes should be :ptu:

Rivkid

There is absolutely not a chance in hell we'll be rolling this out at work until we absolutely have to - and we always try to stick with the latest and greatest. But if you think thats bad try Server 8 which has adopted the same 'social' feel as Windows - its a server for gods sake!! MS have come on leaps and bounds in their tech recently - and I genuinely believe the new features in HyperV on Server 8 are going to set the virtual world on fire, but from what I've seen so far they're missing the goalposts big time on the OS part.

In conjunction with how good OSX is and getting better all the time (IMO before the flaming starts..) I can see a lot more people jumping ship like I did.
Career, Wife, Mortgage... my sig was better when it listed guitars and PC's and stuff!

soopahfly

Quote from: Rivkid on May 25, 2012, 21:23:00 PM
There is absolutely not a chance in hell we'll be rolling this out at work until we absolutely have to - and we always try to stick with the latest and greatest. But if you think thats bad try Server 8 which has adopted the same 'social' feel as Windows - its a server for gods sake!! MS have come on leaps and bounds in their tech recently - and I genuinely believe the new features in HyperV on Server 8 are going to set the virtual world on fire, but from what I've seen so far they're missing the goalposts big time on the OS part.

In conjunction with how good OSX is and getting better all the time (IMO before the flaming starts..) I can see a lot more people jumping ship like I did.
I'm tempted, but I'm not paying apples over inflated price for hardware.

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