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Post by: redneck on April 20, 2006, 23:21:20 PM
i just came. seriously.

ive been looking for a new guitar for a while now, had my eye on a few sites but then i come across this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SPECIAL-PRODUCTION-LEFT-HAND-SEMI-ELECTRIC-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ7408150325QQcategoryZ2384QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem) beauty.


(http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/82000022/Images/12/IPR2%20lh%200001.jpg)

for Ã,£500 its just crying at me. it wants me :(

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Post by: Cypher on April 20, 2006, 23:24:42 PM
Seems like a bargain, but tbh, have some financial sense and put your mind some where else.  You know it would extremely silly to put the money you have right now on something like that.

There will allways be a bargain about.
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Post by: redneck on April 20, 2006, 23:26:50 PM
but but but :(
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Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 20, 2006, 23:31:29 PM
left handed guitarists just look like something satan spawned. :D

Its just wrong dammit!!! wrong! your playing it backwards and upside down!!!
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Post by: redneck on April 20, 2006, 23:34:03 PM
what do you play?

yourself?

please i will not be forced into being something i have spent my life fighting. even my grandmother tried to turn me.

i will never.

plus if i were to try and learn right handed i would just get frustrated and go back to being a lefty, seeing as i can tap and pretty much do all the fancy stuff ill ever need to know :)

do you know my current guitar (ovation) sounds like an organ when i pinch harm on it?

now you do :)
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Post by: Pete on April 20, 2006, 23:38:45 PM
Im left-handed and play right-handed, but in hindsight getting a lefty would have been much more sensible.

Im not sure I like that one much tbh, but the colour is gorgeous.
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Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 20, 2006, 23:40:00 PM
Used to play classical guitar, piano, and several brass instruments.

Can still play my old tunes on guitar, piano, but brass.. pah! other than C G E and D maybe F... I know no notes.

sounds like an organ!? you talking about fret buzz? Fixed that on my accoustic guitar by removing the strings, and placing a cocktailstick under the bridge to raise the action a little.

Oh and that guitar in a right handed setup would look PHWOAR!!! but as its left handed :P UURRRGGHH!!!!
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Post by: Pete on April 20, 2006, 23:41:06 PM
Im left-handed and play right-handed, but in hindsight getting a lefty would have been much more sensible.

Im not sure I like that one much tbh, but the colour is gorgeous.

QuoteIts just wrong dammit!!! wrong! your playing it backwards and upside down!!!

See Jimi Hendrix.
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Post by: redneck on April 20, 2006, 23:42:42 PM
no a pinch harmonic is where you fret a note, and then strike the note normally with the pick.
 however you just tone the note with your finger as you strike the note.

hence creating a pinch harmonic.

fret buzz can be eliminated by correct adjustment of the truss rod.
 if your guitar has one, if it doesnt raise the bridge or use heavier
 gauge strings.

here endeth the lesson
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Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 20, 2006, 23:43:45 PM
Jimi hendrix was overrated. :)

Majority of his fanbase are name dropping teenagers who have heard 2 songs of his and declare their undying love for his music the moment someone mentions that they are a guitarist to them.

"oh wow... you know any hendrix??" grr.. what bollocks.

I prefer some talent in my guitarists as opposed to just random random noise roughly adhering to a vague scale of some sorts. well... imo :D
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Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 20, 2006, 23:45:09 PM
Quote from: redno a pinch harmonic is where you fret a note, and then strike the note normally with the pick.
 however you just tone the note with your finger as you strike the note.

hence creating a pinch harmonic.

fret buzz can be eliminated by correct adjustment of the truss rod.
 if your guitar has one, if it doesnt raise the bridge or use heavier
 gauge strings.

here endeth the lesson

Aye, I know what a pinch harmonic is, but I can safely say mine dont come off as sounding like an organ! :| no idea what your doing! :)
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Post by: redneck on April 20, 2006, 23:46:16 PM
how about knowing pretty much the entire muse backcatalogue (yes its what got me to pick it up in teh first place) a bit of a perfect circle, a bit of tool and just starting on more interesting stuff like dream theatre, megadeth (symphony of destruction :) w00t) lightning bolt (you wont know unless your a muse fan) allsorts.
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Post by: redneck on April 20, 2006, 23:47:39 PM
i have a phosphor bronze string semi acoustic which has endless tone. it seems the sustain on the note is pretty much unending. its wonderfull to play, but i know if i plug it in the feedback will be fun to playwith if thats the case :)
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Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 20, 2006, 23:54:18 PM
See your a decent guitarist then :) lol.

Ive pretty much given up on it, last tune I learnt were the chords to Ben Moody Feat. Anastacia - Everything Burns (http://www.benmoody.com/) (Its the tune playing as the site loads).

QuoteEverything burns, Everyone screams,
Burn in their lies, Burn in my dreams,
All of this hate, and all of this pain,
Burn it all down as my anger reigns,
Till everything burns.

Sounds pretty alright on an acoustic. I have an electric just rarely do I get it out, oh and both of my guitars are random crap, but they do the job. :)
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Post by: redneck on April 20, 2006, 23:56:12 PM
i dont like to expose my skills. its a bad sign if someone brags.


one thing i do is take pride of knowing the equipment. if i wasnt as good a tech as i am i wouldnt be able to get the intonation i want.
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Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 21, 2006, 00:01:41 AM
You say that, yet your rather flamboyant with your words. Personally I have minimal knowledge of audio equipment, much less knowledge of pedals, and effects.

I just played what I was taught, and now and again when I get bored or find a song that I really want to learn... I learn it.

I re-learnt my piano pieces when my sister was in hospital and I was left at home manning the phone, I couldnt watch tv, and needed to get my head off of thinking about her, or what I would like to do to the kids that put her in there, so I sat down and re-learnt every song I used to be able to play over a few days.

btw... im crap at all of those things :) Used to be fairly alright at tuba and euphonium though... but then all you need for that sort of stuff (well.. tuba stuff anyhows) are big lungs to hold semi-breves.
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Post by: redneck on April 21, 2006, 00:19:13 AM
yeah i know how hard brass is. specially the bigger stuff.

the flamboyancy comes with the flares im wearing.
do ignore the pomposity. i do sound a bit of a cock dont i lol.

if i ever get around to hooking up my mic to the internet youll be the first ill pester with my whailings. :)
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Post by: Pete on April 21, 2006, 00:20:32 AM
QuoteJimi hendrix was overrated.  

Blasphemy! :p
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Post by: Serious on April 21, 2006, 00:53:11 AM
Quote from: M3ta7h3adJimi hendrix was overrated. :)

Burn the Heretic! Burn the Heretic!  :P
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Post by: Thrawn on April 21, 2006, 01:26:14 AM
Quote from: M3ta7h3adJimi hendrix was overrated. :)


I would agree with that.

He is still one of my favourite guitarists but I dont think he is quite the god that some people make him out to be. To be honest I prefer the Stevie Ray Vaughns (another of my favourites - probably rate him higher than Jimi) versions of little wing and voodoo chile.


As for the guitar - it looks ok (I particularly like the finish), not really sure about the make though, havent heard on indie - it looks like a bit of an imitation of a few Gibson models that I particularly like.

Ã,£500 doesnt seem a lot for a decent guitar to me, hell my cheap(ish) epiphone les paul was Ã,£300, coupled with the podxt+shortboard and the valvestate with a 1x12 greenback this lot has cost me something like Ã,£800  and I only have the one fairly basic setup.
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Post by: redneck on April 21, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
the bodyshape is a copy of a dryskill. if you know them lol :)
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Post by: maximusotter on April 21, 2006, 17:30:53 PM
DO NOT DISS HENDRIX! Indeed some of his licks have been over-ripped-off, but what makes Hendrix Hendrix, is the transcendant groove that he could create. This groove would totally empty your noggin and sometimes explode into solos where meter and tone exist in an insular logic. Mind blowing.

If you want traditional good soloing, the best guitarist, according to the local session musicians, which are world renowned, is David Rawlins. He plays with Gillian Welch. Ive seen him live half a dozen time, in an audience comprised mainly of Nashville pickers--folks bound to be critical, instead, their grins get caught up on their earlobes.

Its the picker, not the guitar, btw. Just get something basic thats solid and feels good. Look at Willie Nelson and Bruce Springsteen, still playing a battered classical and a classic Esquire Telecaster respectively.

Leave fancy guitars to the poofy shirted set.
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Post by: Cornholio on April 21, 2006, 17:48:46 PM
ok, rob, your brother just bought you a new guitar for your birthday and yet you want to buy another one?? why?!?!?!
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Post by: redneck on April 21, 2006, 17:57:20 PM
he got me an electro acoustic.

i need an electric as its more flexible in terms of what i can do with it.
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Post by: maximusotter on April 21, 2006, 18:02:00 PM
An asian produced Les Paul, Strat, or Tele copy should be dirt cheap and sound damn good. Just have the store pull out all of the copies of the version you like, and compare them--sometimes you can find a real jewel among the coal.

Strat copies are great, as you can get all sorts of aftermarket nuts and bolts for them for peanuts.
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Post by: Cypher on April 22, 2006, 00:11:02 AM
The sound of stratocasters and especially the typical "twang" y sound of telecasters arent exactly what appeal to red iirc.

That and I know he dislikes single coil pickups.
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Post by: redneck on April 22, 2006, 03:10:56 AM
oh how i abhour them.

i am looking at a les paul copy by tokai tho, still Ã,£259 notes because of my south pawness. yeah i was looking at a cheap tele (Ã,£99) but they really dont float my boat. i want something with humbuckers ideally because it would give me room to chop and change when i get sick of the sound of either pickups.

plus humbuckers > single coils for beefness. single coils are good for tone but i dont like the twang as it were lol.
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Post by: redneck on April 22, 2006, 03:11:23 AM
double post
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Post by: Pete on April 22, 2006, 03:29:59 AM
RGX121? Les Paul copies can be really nice too tho.



/I strung one of my strat copies left handed yesterday to have a go with as per Hendrix*, its hard but in a way it makes more sense, although it made me realise that I aint bad at all playing right-handed :)



*Jimi = legend, the most influential guitarist since Robert Johnson.
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Post by: Cypher on April 22, 2006, 17:05:01 PM
Quote from: redplus humbuckers > single coils for beefness. single coils are good for tone but i dont like the twang as it were lol.

What about geetars with 2 single coil and a humbucker at the bridge?  Do those appeal.

Plenty of good budget guitars like the Cort G250.
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Post by: M3ta7h3ad on April 22, 2006, 17:45:33 PM
lol I have two hum buckers and a single coil on mine I think :) twas an elcheapo electric one but... it works :)
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Post by: redneck on April 22, 2006, 17:55:03 PM
i want buckers in teh neck and bridge. give me more flexibility when i want to upgrade or if i want to mess around.
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Post by: Jaimz on April 22, 2006, 18:33:08 PM
Quote from: M3ta7h3adleft handed guitarists just look like something satan spawned. :D

Its just wrong dammit!!! wrong! your playing it backwards and upside down!!!

Lefty ftw



Jaimz :rock:
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Post by: Cypher on April 23, 2006, 00:30:19 AM
How is the bass learning going any jaimz?  What sort of material/artists you playing atm?