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Title: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Quixoticish on September 12, 2011, 14:30:25 PM
... but it's a first person shooter.  :'(

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/12/syndicate-reboot-finally-confirmed-by-ea-and-starbreeze-comin/
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Quixoticish on September 12, 2011, 14:31:56 PM
That said I suppose the new Fallout games worked well enough and captured the essence of the original games well enough. We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on September 12, 2011, 14:55:02 PM
Fallout was never about tactical espionage and team operations, comparing the two is apples and oranges. Syndicate probably has more in common with that new Men of War: Vietnam game than any FPS shooter. It was incredibly challenging because of the need to plan missions, wisely choose firearms, positions, entry and escape routes, avoiding police intervention. More often than not with many repeat attempts necessary to avoid chaos ensuing. This is probably going to be so namby-pamby anyone with a modicum of ability will be able to gung-ho their way through it. :disappointed:

This will not be a Bullfrog game in the slightest. 90% of EA games are rehashed drivel now, this will be another bland FPS with pointless and trivial game mechanics introduced to make up for the fact its going to be dull as a turd and to try to pretend that it's not just another FPS. At best they will come up with an average Deus Ex clone with co-op guided gameplay forcing you to play online to accomplish missions with the same teamwork aspect. At worst, we'll get another DNF level atrocity with totally-linear missions, interwoven with cinematics to make up for the fact that it is essentially just a single player FPS.

QuoteIn a 2006 interview at the Leipzig Games Convention for Gamespot, Peter Molyneux said that he would like to revisit some of his old efforts, but adds that it is very unlikely that will happen. But Molyneux makes one possible exception: "Aside from the licensing complications, some sort of next-gen online version of Syndicate would certainly be popular with gamers."

Shame his visions for his own game will never see the light of day now EA has the ownership.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: matt5cott on September 12, 2011, 17:06:13 PM
NEW MAIL, IS AWAITING, YOUR ATTENTION

NEW MAIL, HAS ARRIVED

and the guns,

ELECTRON MACE

UZI

MINIGUN

LR RIFLE

CATACLYSM

etc

if they have these sound samples in it I will soil myself with delight, but just a little
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on September 12, 2011, 17:58:28 PM
Half of the fun was the system screens, setting up missions, R&D etc.

I want the new mail (http://www.games68.com/games.php?id=2021818) sample to replace my Live Mail sound now 8)
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: matt5cott on September 12, 2011, 18:39:36 PM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on September 12, 2011, 17:58:28 PM
Half of the fun was the system screens, setting up missions, R&D etc.

I want the new mail (http://www.games68.com/games.php?id=2021818) sample to replace my Live Mail sound now 8)

http://syndicate.lubie.org/swars/html/swars_sounds.php

So do it then  ;D
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Quixoticish on September 12, 2011, 18:54:19 PM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on September 12, 2011, 14:55:02 PM
Fallout was never about tactical espionage and team operations, comparing the two is apples and oranges. Syndicate probably has more in common with that new Men of War: Vietnam game than any FPS shooter. It was incredibly challenging because of the need to plan missions, wisely choose firearms, positions, entry and escape routes, avoiding police intervention. More often than not with many repeat attempts necessary to avoid chaos ensuing. This is probably going to be so namby-pamby anyone with a modicum of ability will be able to gung-ho their way through it. :dis:

This will not be a Bullfrog game in the slightest. 90% of EA games are rehashed drivel now, this will be another bland FPS with pointless and trivial game mechanics introduced to make up for the fact its going to be dull as a turd and to try to pretend that it's not just another FPS. At best they will come up with an average Deus Ex clone with co-op guided gameplay forcing you to play online to accomplish missions with the same teamwork aspect. At worst, we'll get another DNF level atrocity with totally-linear missions, interwoven with cinematics to make up for the fact that it is essentially just a single player FPS.

QuoteIn a 2006 interview at the Leipzig Games Convention for Gamespot, Peter Molyneux said that he would like to revisit some of his old efforts, but adds that it is very unlikely that will happen. But Molyneux makes one possible exception: "Aside from the licensing complications, some sort of next-gen online version of Syndicate would certainly be popular with gamers."

Shame his visions for his own game will never see the light of day now EA has the ownership.

Calm down matey. I was making a comparison based on the fact that Fallout represents a top down game re-made into a first person game, nothing more. So comparing oranges to oranges then.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on September 12, 2011, 19:00:18 PM
It's alright, the ranting wasn't directed at you for your comparison, more ranting over the fact I can tell already its going to be a huge disappointment.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: matt5cott on September 13, 2011, 09:55:32 AM
Original post has been updated with some screenshots.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/09/syndicate16.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/09/screens-shortlist---10.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/09/12.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/09/syndicate02.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/09/syndicate08.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/09/syndicate15.jpg)

I wish it was point and click like it was, but if it looks like that count me in tbh.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: knighty on September 13, 2011, 13:16:47 PM
omg.... i almost climaxed when I read the thread title...

but now i just want to cry :-(
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Eagle on September 13, 2011, 22:29:40 PM
Quote from: knighty on September 13, 2011, 13:16:47 PM
omg.... i almost climaxed when I read the thread title...

but now i just want to cry :-(
^ This.

:disappointed:
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Quixoticish on September 15, 2011, 08:30:58 AM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on September 12, 2011, 19:00:18 PM
It's alright, the ranting wasn't directed at you for your comparison, more ranting over the fact I can tell already its going to be a huge disappointment.

This is indeed true. Even if they tried in every way to make it as similar to the original it would still be a let-down compared to the original game, there's no soul in games any more, especially when EA are involved.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: matt5cott on September 15, 2011, 08:40:40 AM
EA GAMES

CHALLENGE EVERYTHING


(except originality)
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 24, 2012, 22:54:59 PM
Interesting news:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/21/paradox-announce-cartel-interview/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/21/paradox-announce-cartel-interview/)

Not long until the demo of EA's offering comes out, promsing co-op multiplayer and other such niceties. Personally, I'm more interested to see how this 'Cartel' game shapes up...
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: knighty on January 24, 2012, 23:44:37 PM
I'm still playing through the port of wars..... I'm up to mission (well mail) 12 iirc but it's hard... and it keeps crashing on me... it's been 100% stable up to now...

I'm not sure if it's just this mission... or there's something wrong with my install ?  it did seam to freeze during install... so i cancelled it but it still all worked... will have to keep trying !
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: matt5cott on February 01, 2012, 19:31:28 PM


Demo now on PSN.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 01, 2012, 22:19:16 PM
I can't put my finger on why exactly but nothing about this video excites me, from breaching Gary Changs soft ass to the digital verse and all the other nonsense. It seems just taken Deus Ex and bolted on even more sci fi silliness, retaining nothing of the franchise. Worse still the cold, assimilated nature of the syndicate operatives you would originally take through the city in a tactical team on a calculated rampage is now replaced with a whooping-smartarse American douche with attitude. The fact that there is more to remember in a ten minute video than I would ever give a sh*t about in order to play a level of the game is indication enough that it's not what I want and more than I expected.
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: matt5cott on February 01, 2012, 22:23:08 PM
I loaded up the demo and couldn't even be arsed with it as you had to sign into origin, so I exiteded & played the twisted metal beta, which is good fun
Title: Re: Syndicate is officially coming...
Post by: Quixoticish on February 02, 2012, 23:59:05 PM
Demo is gash. Well, it's actually a fair first person shooter. But Syndicate it is not. Disappointed.