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Title: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: zpyder on July 16, 2012, 10:05:45 AM
My sis is wanting to get my dad an iPad/Android tablet for his xmas/birthday present or something. She's now looking at the Nexus 7 due to it's cost.

All the talk though has done the inevitable, and made me start to wonder if I could use one. I'm particularly interested in mapping applications, using the tablet almost like a graphics tablet to trace habitats on a map with my finger and create GIS files that could be imported into our proper mapping programs at work (a lot quicker and easier than using a mouse I imagine).

I'm just curious what people think. I used to have an HTC Desire, now have an iPhone. I liked both Android and iOS equally for different reasons. Android was great but I found quality of apps was very poor a few years ago. Whereas iOS the apps are great but there's just slightly less freedom to do what I want with the phone than would be ideal. I'm wondering if the tablets are the same...
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: soopahfly on July 16, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
Memory map is currently free on android ;)
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: Eggtastico on July 16, 2012, 14:27:45 PM
smaller ipad coming,.,,,, and cheaper!
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: zpyder on July 16, 2012, 14:47:01 PM
It dawned on me that a useful feature, if it exists, would be a USB port that would allow me to transfer photos from cameras? (Probably need a raw reader too). Available on Android?
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: Leon on July 16, 2012, 15:19:23 PM
You highlighted the main pros and cons yourself but Android apps have gotten much better over the last 12 months, more standardized in the iOS and Android releases.

Throwing the apple/android argument out of the window at the moment you need to look at 1st what functions you want and what size you want?

The new Nexus 7 is a steal for the price (quadcore tegra 3 on IPS panel for sub £200) however is 7inch too small? I know it would be for me. It also doesn't have a MicroSD card but does have a USB dongle so you can plug memory cards/usb sticks/etc into that.

The iPAD2 is a solid device, you can get the USB camera dongle to do your photo downloads, there is no full non-restricted USB port adapters though and once again no MicroSD slot.

10inch Tabs android wise there are so many out now I don't even know where to start. The Transformer Prime is still getting a lot of love but most major manufactures have released an ICS tegra3, 10inch IPS panel tab at around the same price so just do some googling to see whats most loved in the community at the time.

My Transformer 1 (tegra 2) is still going strong but is slightly bulky compared to the newer ones. Mini HDMI, MicroSD, Full USB port on tab if using dongle (or female to female USB connector :P) and with Dock you get another +9 hours battery life, keyboard, 2x full USB and SD card :)
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: zpyder on July 16, 2012, 15:39:24 PM
I do like the idea of a keyboard docking station...
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: soopahfly on July 16, 2012, 16:51:31 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico on July 16, 2012, 14:27:45 PM
smaller ipad coming,.,,,, and cheaper!

And just as restrictive.  I can't see it being that much cheaper tbh, certainly more than the N7.
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: zpyder on July 17, 2012, 08:28:07 AM
I might keep my eye on the Transformer infinity and see what it sells for in a few months near my birthday, as well as the reviews...
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: Eggtastico on July 17, 2012, 08:35:10 AM
Quote from: soopahfly on July 16, 2012, 16:51:31 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico on July 16, 2012, 14:27:45 PM
smaller ipad coming,.,,,, and cheaper!

And just as restrictive.  I can't see it being that much cheaper tbh, certainly more than the N7.

how are they restrictive?
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: soopahfly on July 17, 2012, 10:19:42 AM
Open Market.  I'm not forced to buy my apps though Google.
I don't have to be rooted/jailbroken to install my own apps
I can connect it to my TV without expensive dongles.
I can connect my camera without expensive dongles.
I can put a micro USB card in.
Widescreen!
Who in their right mind actually chooses to use iTunes?
Restrictive app policy for adding to the Apple store.
If I want widgets to show the weather, my favourite forums and emails on the home page, I can.
Cost.  I don't have to buy into apples 55% profit margin.

The only good things about the apple stuff are the screens and the range of speaker docks.
But even the screen isn't an Apple invention, so it will move to other devices in time.
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 17, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
I would have to agree with those points, the small amount of time I've spent trying out iProducts to give them a chance has been a painful, unintuitive experience compared to the pick up and play customisable nature of the android phones, you can feel that you can do more with it right off the bat. It always feels like you need a manual to learn how to do things the quirky Apple way that goes against the grain, or to understand why you can't do something you should be able to.
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: zpyder on July 17, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on July 17, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
I would have to agree with those points, the small amount of time I've spent trying out iProducts to give them a chance has been a painful, unintuitive experience compared to the pick up and play customisable nature of the android phones, you can feel that you can do more with it right off the bat. It always feels like you need a manual to learn how to do things the quirky Apple way that goes against the grain, or to understand why you can't do something you should be able to.

I find the Apple OS quite interesting. Whilst I was still a student at uni I took part in a few computer psychology tests which were looking into interface design. They pretty much were a case of giving you a series of tasks to do on a mac, and a pc, and they monitored you as well as giving you a questionnaire at the end on how easy/difficult it was to do some things.

I remember going in to do these tests being a stout Apple slater. I came out actually thinking that sure some things might seem different for the sake of being different, but actually I found the Apple experience a much quicker and efficient process, once I got to grips with a few basics. I'm not saying it's the better OS, I'm just saying that I don't think it's 100% just down to herd/sheep mentality that their products are so popular.
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: soopahfly on July 17, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
I do think some stuff is different for the sake of being different.  Shortcut keys for example.
I know it's a unix based OS, but if you're trying to tempt people away from PC's you should make it as seamless for them as possible.
The three balls at the top of any application that seem to do sweet fa.
Embrace more than one mouse button!!!!

The OS feels very swish, but it seems all mouth and no trousers.
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: matt5cott on July 17, 2012, 13:14:14 PM
http://www.hardwareheroes.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=65
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: zpyder on July 17, 2012, 13:31:48 PM
Ainol? Anal?
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: matt5cott on July 17, 2012, 14:22:54 PM
Quote from: zpyder on July 17, 2012, 13:31:48 PM
Ainol? Anal?

That's pretty much the daily joke since the guy I work with bought 2  :lol:
Title: Re: Tablet computers, recommendations?
Post by: soopahfly on July 17, 2012, 16:51:15 PM
Better off with a pad and pencil than one of those.