Anyone seen the first two eps of this? Keep on hearing good things about it; although when I saw the trailers it looked a bit crap. Well the special effects looked a bit second rate; like Doctor Who which I am not particularly a fan of. I think its by the team who done Doctor Who.
I thought the new Robin Hood series would be good too, although that is utter crap; Essex girl Maid Marion .... come on!!
If you have watched anything of Torchwood tell me what you think as I am tempted by it ... given what I have heard.
If you liked the recent Doctor Whos series then you will like Torchwood.
Ive watched and recorded the first two episodes.
The first episode gets a bit slow half way, as they are introducing the characters and a little background. Otherwise both episodes are absolutely great.
I saw Robin Hood carrying a recurve on the advert so decided to give it a miss, from what I gather it was a sound decision to make as I hear its particuarly poor.
Regarding Torchwood; again Ive given this a miss because I didnt find the second series of Doctor Who very good at all, I thought the scripts were poor compared to the first series.
I was in fits of giggles watching the double-bill of Torchwood last night on BBC3 - and not in a pee-taking way, I think it was supposed to be amusing in those bits - I was thoroughly entertained the whole way through - an allien that feeds on human orgasms, because we are the best!!! Hah!
RH is trash of the highest magnitude. Avoid.
Quote from: Clockd 0NeRH is trash of the highest magnitude. Avoid.
And the bbc has shoved so much money in it its insane, I heard its costi them 15million odd.
When was the last time the bbc had a decent ewish movie on, lol God its got to be more then a year now exluding xmas and holiday stuff and even then it was crap.
They have spent so much money On holding on to the snooker and football hilights and silly things like Robin Hood they dont spend it on anything decent and their good shows are the ones that lack investment, lol.
Quote from: SaraI was in fits of giggles watching the double-bill of Torchwood last night on BBC3 - and not in a pee-taking way, I think it was supposed to be amusing in those bits - I was thoroughly entertained the whole way through -
There was plenty of funny quips to go around although a couple were groaners.
Scripts were good enough, interesting and reasonably paced. The two women having a good snog was something that you would never have seen in Doctor Who, ditto with the sex scene. TBH the plot of the second episode would probably never have been shown as too raunchy. One of the caracters is bisexual and uses a pheremone spray to pick up a woman, in the first episode when her bloke tries to interveine the character uses it oh him too.
As he says while watching the bloke go poof during orgasm, you come and then you go.
Quotean allien that feeds on human orgasms, because we are the best!!! Hah!
Humans spend more time love making than animals so we are the best on this planet for a start :P
Captain Jack Harkness does seem far too familiar though, his survival from being shot makes him very much like Captain Scarlet.
Quote from: Clockd 0NeRH is trash of the highest magnitude. Avoid.
Good job I missed it then :mrgreen:
Quote from: SeriousCaptain Jack Harkness does seem far too familiar though, his survival from being shot makes him very much like Captain Scarlet.
Well if it helps anyone, I remember John Barrowman from Going Live! on saturday mornings back in the early 90s... he answered telephones for some bizarre little game show, around the time that Trev & Simon were still using the catchphrase "We dont do duvets!"... Ahh, memories...
Just caught the first two episodes of Torchwood since it was recommended on here and I must say I really enjoyed it. Its a completely seperate show to Dr. Who and Ill certainly be watching it in future.
I watched 10 minutes of torchwood and youll love it if youve never watched TV before.
Quote from: SamI watched 10 minutes of torchwood and youll love it if youve never watched TV before.
Im not missing much then?
Quote from: SmugsQuote from: SamI watched 10 minutes of torchwood and youll love it if youve never watched TV before.
Im not missing much then?
Depends on what you like, TBH its worth a look and I like it so far.
Quote from: SmugsQuote from: SamI watched 10 minutes of torchwood and youll love it if youve never watched TV before.
Im not missing much then?
No it has a budget of about ten quid.
Come on Sam, most actors wont even get out of bed for a few hundred...
Then they have to pay the staff. And dont forget its the BEEB too.
Might *LOOK* as if the budget is Ã,£10 but you can bet your life the reality is a lot more.
Anything that includes green screen and you can pretty much bet that is where the budget has gone for that scene.
I caught the first 2 episodes in a rerun a few days ago. Although I enjoyed it I was far from impressed. Second problem/alien to deal with is a purple gassy alien that gets its life energy of male climaxes. They end up catching it in a sperm bank clinic. :?
This is one of the reasons I started to get bored of BBC shows in general, the script writing. These days it is cheesy, unimaginative, doesnt grab your attention for long and really is reusing old ideas. Sometimes I think it has been aimed at children.
Actually, you know what, it really was just crap. How many time count losts I had to watch panning shots of Cardiff I really just lost count.
Quote from: CypherAnything that includes green screen and you can pretty much bet that is where the budget has gone for that scene.
I caught the first 2 episodes in a rerun a few days ago. Although I enjoyed it I was far from impressed. Second problem/alien to deal with is a purple gassy alien that gets its life energy of male climaxes. They end up catching it in a sperm bank clinic. :?
The gassy alien was just about acceptable and the special effects dont make a series great or even just watchable, its very easy to get bored. A few other special effects were worse. Im sure they could do better providing you dont mind the licence costs going up.
QuoteThis is one of the reasons I started to get bored of BBC shows in general, the script writing. These days it is cheesy, unimaginative, doesnt grab your attention for long and really is reusing old ideas. Sometimes I think it has been aimed at children.
Aimed at children? Not with the sperm bank episode. Really this is a severe problem with a lot of American TV series. There is only so many different main options for scripts anyway and most, if not all, of them have already been done at some point
QuoteActually, you know what, it really was just crap. How many time count losts I had to watch panning shots of Cardiff I really just lost count.
Some of them were a bit long.
My mum is loving seeing all the shots of Cardiff and saying "ooh, look we know where that is" :lol:
Quote from: Clockd 0NeMy mum is loving seeing all the shots of Cardiff and saying "ooh, look we know where that is" :lol:
my mum and dad love looking at it because it Cardiff looks good on TV :D
Only live down the road, and they regularly film the scenes at the end of my road, and on my street where I work.
The millenium centre (building with all the writing on the wall/roof) is 30 seconds walk around the corner. :)
Recognise this:
http://m3ta7h3ad.f2o.org/php/upload/DSCF0407copy.jpg (a piccie I took)
or...
http://m3ta7h3ad.f2o.org/php/upload/2004_07040003resized.jpg :)
Yeah, it always looks nice but it was a big waste of money. Its good when they put on the fayres and things down there though.
Place suddenly seems to be loaded with Taffys <_<
:P
So Iââ,¬â,,¢ve just seen my first bit of Torchwood (Eps 2 and 4) and I can safely say Iââ,¬â,,¢m not liking it much if at all, it seems far to obsessed with making it self more "Adult" that it sticks in swearing and sex when its not needed which just ruins what there is of a storyline.
As for the storylines themselves they feel far too rushed with plenty of plot holes and things left unanswered or just ignored after they have happened.
Also after watching Episode 4 RTD has succeeded in making Captain Jack a complete arsehole who doesnââ,¬â,,¢t seem to care about the people around him which totally goes against how he was portrayed in Doctor Who.
Quote from: SmugsAlso after watching Episode 4 RTD has succeeded in making Captain Jack a complete arsehole who doesnââ,¬â,,¢t seem to care about the people around him which totally goes against how he was portrayed in Doctor Who.
He does completely depart from his original characterisation but the real issue is that he seems to change every episode or even during an episode. Sometimes he cares a lot and others hes a cold fish. I think it really goes a lot deeper than that though, they just dont have enough people working there. Its like Area 51 or the Enterprise being run by a half dozen people plus a cat, you just dont expect that. For every person on the away team there should be ten or twenty back at base keeping an eye on them and investigating any finds they bring back.
It also severely limits deaths and people being dropped. Can they trust Ianto Jones again? Way they dealt with his girlfriend was a bit diabolical too, and for at least some of them out of character.
Otherwise there are lots of sci-fi programmes out there with holes, the Star Trek ones had loads of them.
Thing is with Captain Jack in that ep of doctor who you dont know from when he is from. It could well be that the Captain Jack you see in Doctor Who is from the future of when Torchwood was set. As he did have time travel capabilities.
People shouldnt read too much into a program that has what 4 aired episodes...
At least give it a season to settle and get started, i agree there are plot holes but damn near all programs have them. Nobody comments on the location holes. I live in and know cardiff well and they seem to bounce from place to place in chase scenes with amazing skill.
I was looking forward to this show, but after watching the 4th episode I have concluded the show is rubbish!!!
Captain Jack (who was good in Dr Who) cant act his way out of a paper bag in this and isnt believable as a leader.
While the rest of the team come across as idiots quite a bit of the time, rather than being "sharp and bright", which you would need to be to be in such a team.
The dialog of all the cast is truly cringe worthy at times, the "adult content" has felt added on and out of place in 3 of the 4 episodes, It screams "Ohh look Im adult content!!!", very clumsy script writing IMO.
I would be surprised if it gets a second series :(
Watch the U.S. show Heros if you want to watch a new, well written and acted Sci-Fi show :-)
Quote from: ShaunWatch the U.S. show Heros if you want to watch a new, well written and acted Sci-Fi show :-)
I have, they are so polished and unbelievable they makes me go :gag: far too often.
Ive been sky+ing Torchwood and finally got around to watching the first 4 eps last night, back to back.
Its ok, it has promise. Its doing that standard UK show thing of starting off flakey and without direction. Its almost as if the show is only there to get more money from the costumes that were bought for Dr.Who.
That said it is quite entertaining and even at 2 this morning I was sat their happily watching as opposed to being asleep.
Torchwood 4tw!!
Need sci-fi, must have sci-fi, where is the Sci-fi on tv? bring it on !!
8) :D 8)
i think its crap. mind you nothing holds my attention for long nowadays. especially tv.
On the subject of Captain jack and having not seen the first episode does it explain how he gets back from the future at all?
Ill probably stick with it for a few more episodes hopefully it will turn a corner soon.
Quote from: SmugsOn the subject of Captain jack and having not seen the first episode does it explain how he gets back from the future at all?
No, all it really explains is that hes been alive since the war, hasnt aged and can survive being shot in the head. Most of the rest of it is removing one character who only appears in that episode anyway and introductions.
[edit] she was back for a later one where they revived her. [/edit]
Just watched episode 10 recorded on Sunday and TBH it was boring, switched it off after 30 minutes.
Subject start was interesting enough, plane from 1953 turns up at airport having flown through a time rift but from that point the script got bogged down with nowhere really to go. it might have been okay as a sideline for another story but not in itself.
It also really shows up Torchwoods lack of staff, the team should never have gotten involved in this beyond the initial incident, support staff should have handled most of it.
Quote from: SeriousIt also really shows up Torchwoods lack of staff
When I initially read that part I was thinking "yeah, they must have a really small script writing team". Then I saw the rest of the statement and thought "ah".
Having watched it run its course and having been initially very excited by this show its getting a little tedious now and the bad script writing is shining through. Im also a little sick of the fact that everyone is blatantly bisexual in a desperate effort to make it a little bit more "adult". It feels really forced and tacky.
I dont know why I didnt see this initially; I guess Im just a sucker for anything Dr Who related. (Excepting our current, rather bad version).
Mix queer as folk and doctor who and you get torchwoord
seems russel t davies doesnt have much of a repertoire
It had so much potential and turned into a sex drama with a bit of weirdness chucked in.
If it wasnt shot in cardiff i wouldnt still be watching it
Until that they had some pace, some adult soap content and some sci-fi. Then they just lost everything. The script should never have been used.
They are really using sex too much as well.
Quote from: NimrodQuote from: SeriousIt also really shows up Torchwoods lack of staff
When I initially read that part I was thinking "yeah, they must have a really small script writing team". Then I saw the rest of the statement and thought "ah".
The team should be five people at least, a technician, a doctor, exobiologist, forensics expert and team leader. Preferably they shoud have spares so someone can get killed off without problem, The red shirted security guards in Star Trek had a dual purpose.
They have one support person when there should be at least 20, preferably 30. Support needs to work 24/365.
Really there should be at least three teams too.