My Athlon 1700 JIUHB and NF7 are well past their best now, as is the old AGP gfx card.
Looking to sensibly move to a more upto date system.
What is the best value for money these days, im well out of the hardware loop so have no idea whats about.
im thinking core duo? and maybe a pci-e board and ddr2?
anywhere close?
needs to have some upgradeablity for the future etc
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
DEV
Always a good idea to post a budget and then fit what can go in it..
But could start you off with:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/PCI-E/nVIDIA+GeForce+7+Series/+XFX+GeForce+7950GT+550M+512MB+DDR3?productId=25677
as new I am selling on ebay you can have it for £96, they are £140 ish new
But you could do with saying how much you have but core duo and ddr2 is the way to go
You can get 2 gig these days for f all memory is nice and cheap right now with ddr3 stepping about.
if youre spending ~£150 on a GFX, definitely go for an 8800GT, dont even consider anything else. It even beats the £200 offerings from Nvidia themselves!
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/NVIDIA-GeForce-8800-GT-G92,review-29719.html
Rough Budget?
if i were you id go for an AMDx2.... more bang for youre buck !
Quote from: knightyif i were you id go for an AMDx2.... more bang for youre buck !
is that true? i thought core2s pood all over amd at the moment?
dont really have a budget, just after what ever is the best value. performance:price ratio etc
Quote from: DEViANCEQuote from: knightyif i were you id go for an AMDx2.... more bang for youre buck !
is that true? i thought core2s pood all over amd at the moment?
dont really have a budget, just after what ever is the best value. performance:price ratio etc
They do
just the top end ones tho ?
~£50 the AMDs come top dont they ?
(not that sure bth)
when i last upgraded I got an x2 because they were way ahead of the core2duos at the time...
Quote from: neXusQuote from: DEViANCEQuote from: knightyif i were you id go for an AMDx2.... more bang for youre buck !
is that true? i thought core2s pood all over amd at the moment?
dont really have a budget, just after what ever is the best value. performance:price ratio etc
They do
Price/Performance that is disputable. The E6600 is between £30 and £40 more expensive than the 6000+ most places, and the motherboards spec-for-spec are more expensive. At the moment AMD hold the balance if you are on a budget. The 6600 will clock higher if you are into overclocking though, but the AM2 socket will take one of the newer AM3 socket chips if you buy the right motherboard as well. It depends if you want to take the risk TBH.
If you are going for pure performance out of the box then its Intel, same with overclocking. If you are more into bang for the buck out of the box then its AMD but only just.
TBH I would go for one of the cheap Intels and overclock it if you are strapped for cash.
what are the best chipsets/boards around at the moment?
i have no idea, last time i was looking into hardware, nforce2 was the top dog :?
Quote from: DEViANCEwhat are the best chipsets/boards around at the moment?
i have no idea, last time i was looking into hardware, nforce2 was the top dog :?
Not sure to be honest, im happy enough with the AMD 690 chipset im on at the moment, but its not an overclockers chipset because when I got the thing it was put into an mATX case.
Im looking to upgrade soon so Id be interested to hear what the crucial differences are in the AMD X2s and the Core2 Duos as far as performance goes, how are we equating this bang for buck? From what Ive been reading the Core 2 Duos have been the CPU of choice for some time.
I went intel, got a E4sommink and its pretty good.
Stuff to think about:
Cache size vs price: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/processor-cache-size,review-29707-5.html
amd vs intel mid-range: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3112 (web page is knackered - scroll down)
For reference a X2 5000 is £70, E4500 is £74 ...Id base my choice around best motherboard. I went intel cos I wanted a specific board.
I worked out that I was looking at spending a max of £150 on a CPU, and when i got mine the 6000+ was £140, while the E6600 was £180. Price difference is still the same, the 6000+ is about £40 cheaper than the E6600, and im still not regretting it. I would have bought the E6600 if it wasnt for the fact the CPU + Motherboard was working out about £80 more for the same spec, and they are comparable processers. I have no intention of overclocking either, so the 6600 really wasnt worth the extra spend.
Quote from: Clockd 0NeIm looking to upgrade soon so Id be interested to hear what the crucial differences are in the AMD X2s and the Core2 Duos as far as performance goes, how are we equating this bang for buck? From what Ive been reading the Core 2 Duos have been the CPU of choice for some time.
AMD reduced their prices, so their top CPUs compete with lesser Intel ones on price. Intel rules the top end, but you may have to pay a price premium through motherboard and cpu prices. Same with overclocking, the Intel ones are better here too but if you arent going to overclock there is no point inbuying Intel over an AMD.
Quote from: SeriousSame with overclocking, the Intel ones are better here too but if you arent going to overclock there is no point inbuying Intel over an AMD.
depends man, the newer 5000+ is supposed to be a mean overclocker as its on the 65nm process so it runs cooler, its also got an unlocked multiplyer. Ive been told it just _may_ be possible to squeeze some serious speeds out of them. However its still a K8, and the K10s should be here in the next few weeks.
http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php?lang=&submenu=&menu=&product_id=22513&session=d55251d6bec3c8d433c3ae2df93b0ab8
http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php?lang=&submenu=&menu=&product_id=22496&session=d55251d6bec3c8d433c3ae2df93b0ab8
im thinking either Core2duo E4500 (£75) or Dual-Core E2160 (£45)
the E2160 are very overclockable apparently and out perform the X2 5000 at 3ghz.
still stuck on a chipset/main board though. need something that supports a bit of future tech, quad core, ddr3 maybe.
the intel p35 seems good but is quite steep.
E2160s are teh doggys hanging bits, providing you are willing to overclock :ptu:
stuck on 2 boards at the moment.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131173
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132275
I would go for the Asus board, as the Gigabyte board has some bad reviews on it partically with to do the Rev versions of the board. If i was you it would put me off the Gigabyte board.
LiAM
I just dont think theres any point in building your own anymore, as you cant build them as cheap as you can pick em up for!
Youre right there, but at least in building your own you know the components, youre sure its done correctly and you can totally tailor the system appropriately.
I keep looking at the prebuilds and then I start looking at other hardware options and realise that I might as well just build it myself without the cost being an issue at all. It would save time but Id end up thinking I could have done a better job.
I am now possibly thinking about upgrading to these new Core 2 Quad Cores, iv read a lot of good things about then partically the Q6600 ones. The prices for them look really good as well but i am still thinking about it. If i do upgrade to it i will be getting the Q6600 CPU, Asus P5K motherboard & 2GB of Corsair PC6400 RAM would all this be a good choice? on Ebuyer this all came to £260.
Thanks - LiAM