So I'm looking into getting a tablet and after having a look earlier I've narrowed it down to the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 and the Nexus 7. I looked in Curry's and they were both the same price (the Nexus 7 being 16GB and the Samsung being 8GB but I'm not planning on fulling it to the brim), and the Samsung being the same price in John Lewis too.
I'll hold my hands up and say I have no idea which is the better (they both looked nice and that's what appealed), so I'm hoping you guys might be able to help me out with that :D
I have similar question a good fair priced tablet that works fine with nix :) (easy to root and change system on)
No idea on processor etc, but the nexus doesn't have a memory slot IIRC, but believe the tab does, so storage isn't a biggie if that's the case? Expect it to be down to power?
If in the market for a 7incher I would say your choices are between Nexus 7, Sammy 7 or the Kindle Fire HD but as most people seem to be saying unless you want the Amazon eco-system there is no reason to get the Kindle over the Nexus we will ignore that one for now.
Nexus 7 Pros:
Better Screen (ISP 1280x800 vs LCD 1024x600)
Better front facing camera (1.3mp vs VGA)
Jelly Bean and quicker updates (vs ICS w/ Touch Wiz)
Better CPU (Quad Core Tegra 3 vs Dual Core something)
Free Transformers 3 Movie & £15 Play credit
Samsung Tab2 7:
Rear Camera (If you want to take photos on a tab)
MicroSD slot for expandable storage
Some free content with Samsung partners
On paper the only reason to get the Tab2 is for expandable storage but I would just use external storage and USB host on the Nexus (not sure if this requires root do didn't put it on the pros/cons as its not for everyone).
does the nexus have USB host capabilities? A colleague of mine has one at work and I didn't see any ports of any kind (although I haven't had a chance to examine it closely).
Thanks Leon!
I was on the train this morning and was reading the Metro to ease my boredom and saw that in the T3 Gadget Awards Nexus 7 won 'Gadget of the Year' and 'Tablet of the Year' along with Asus being tech brand of the year, so I think I'm going to be going for that one! I would have picked one up today but alas, the rain and amount of lectures packed into my Tuesdays prevented me, so I'll be the happy owner of a shiny new Nexus 7 by midday tomorrow :D
Quote from: Mongoose on October 09, 2012, 18:26:42 PM
does the nexus have USB host capabilities? A colleague of mine has one at work and I didn't see any ports of any kind (although I haven't had a chance to examine it closely).
Both tabs have a micro USB and there are plenty Micro USB to Fem USB connectors around for a few pence... question is that if they support USB host out of the box.
A quick google shows that the Nexus7 doesn't support full USB host out of the box (but is possible via a quick root) but it looks like the Tab2 7 does support it out of the box (well sammy are selling the cables for it anyway).
I popped back in to this thread to ask about usb host etc and see I'm not alone. I'm curious about the potential for using a tablet for photography and travelling. I'm thinking I'll only have so many CF cards, it'd be good to have the ability to transfer photos from the camera, delete bad ones and reorganise things to best make use of what memory I have. The alternative would just be the ability to transfer from the camera and process raw files on the tablet before uploading to flickr etc.
Any thoughts on this?
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Quote from: zpyder on November 20, 2012, 19:25:12 PM
Any thoughts on this?
Use a laptop/netbook? I'm amazed at how people really have to 'find' reasons to buy tablets. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? No one gave a dime about them until Apple marketing came along.
Can't honestly remember the last time I turned on my computer at home to do anything. My iPad has pretty much done everything I've needed so far. Took about a day to get used to touch typing and the auto correct did my head in, but now I can't see myself being without one.
Tablets are ridiculously useful.
Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on November 20, 2012, 23:29:05 PM
Can't honestly remember the last time I turned on my computer at home to do anything. My iPad has pretty much done everything I've needed so far. Took about a day to get used to touch typing and the auto correct did my head in, but now I can't see myself being without one.
Tablets are ridiculously useful.
This. I never bought one as I couldn't justify the cost when I have a MacBook and an iPhone but then I got given one for work. Barely use anything else now - MacBook hardly gets a look in. Never thought I'd use the iPad so much but it's surprising. Far more than just marketing to why it's so successful.
But do you use them for actual work rekated tasks? I look at all the things I use my laptop for i.e. MS Office, Photoshop or SMART ... and a tablet is entirely unsuitable. If I was procrastinating on the facebook it would be awesome.
Bring back the days of 'MORE POWER' and watercooling!
Quote from: ERU on November 21, 2012, 07:49:19 AM
But do you use them for actual work rekated tasks? I look at all the things I use my laptop for i.e. MS Office, Photoshop or SMART ... and a tablet is entirely unsuitable. If I was procrastinating on the facebook it would be awesome.
Bring back the days of 'MORE POWER' and watercooling!
I use a mix - laptop for office and server/network config, iPad for 99% of software applications since they've all released web clients now for just this purpose. For personal use though its pretty much all iPad - although I do use a few photo and video editing programs on OSX.
Personal use its normally iPad only.
Work I use a laptop only because backtrack 5r3 doesn't really run on a tablet, despite actually having some basic tools on my iPad yeah it's not suitable for work.
Actually writing documents though isn't a problem, I use the iOS versions of office on my pad.
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.
Quote from: ERU on November 20, 2012, 22:07:56 PM
Quote from: zpyder on November 20, 2012, 19:25:12 PM
Any thoughts on this?
Use a laptop/netbook? I'm amazed at how people really have to 'find' reasons to buy tablets. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? No one gave a dime about them until Apple marketing came along.
I'm not trying to find a use for one, I have a use for one, and want to know which one best fits my needs.
We're planning on travelling Canada and/or Europe next year. I have 8kg of photography equipment that pretty much takes up my entire hand luggage. I cannot take my 5kg laptop with associated chargers. It would be very useful to have something small and light which I can use every so often whilst travelling to manage the photos I have taken, either by pruning the bad ones, or uploading to flickr to free up space. It would also be useful to use for keeping in touch with friends and family.
It's sort of a logical progression to make, as I have a Kindle for my books, and my Galaxy S3 is almost a mini-tablet size device as it is, but the small size makes it difficult to do anything quickly or easily. I have a lot of colour text natural history reference ebooks which obviously my kindle doesn't like either.
The Nexus 10 would be ideal if it had expandable storage, but it doesn't.
Try a kindle fire? Cheap enough to try & see if the android os does what you want.
I got an ipad & iphone. Dont use the phone for anything except making calls & texting. The ipad has made it reduntant in everything that i used the phone for.I also now have an imac & macbook.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.
In Star Trek the padd had the same interface as the terminals they used on the walls.
Emails, word documents and excel documents I edit on my iPad from time to time. Granted would I get an iPad if I needed a laptop, no. But having an iPad I genuinely cannot remember the last time I logged onto my computer in the house, I don't need a pc to respond to emails I don't need one to browse the web effectively and I don't need one to watch YouTube, etc... It's pretty much everything I need In a small, handheld device.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.
I'm not sure how this will pan out long term if I'm honest. Bear in mind you're a huge minority of users requiring web design / photoshop etc... 99% of users need office and perhaps the odd business app and they're all going web based anyway. To put some context on that - we have over 400 users (currently on Dell laptops and iPads) and of those 400 only 1 has anything other than the standard stuff and he's a graphic designer with a macbook and adobe master suite. Everyone else could easily use a tablet / other thin client device without any negative impact other than 'getting used to it'. Everyone said the mouse was a gimmick too....
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
I can barely manage with my touchscreen phone, I couldn't get any real work done on a tablet, its okay if you use one as a business support to send the odd emails or view someones Word document they sent you but as ERU pointed out I can't do anything like heavy typing like web design or Photoshop design work, not in any productive fashion. This is why when people talk of 'death of Intel' and 'death of the PC' they are being stupid, offices everywhere still need proper computers, even in Star Trek they still use terminals.
I'm not sure how this will pan out long term if I'm honest. Bear in mind you're a huge minority of users requiring web design / photoshop etc... 99% of users need office and perhaps the odd business app and they're all going web based anyway. To put some context on that - we have over 400 users (currently on Dell laptops and iPads) and of those 400 only 1 has anything other than the standard stuff and he's a graphic designer with a macbook and adobe master suite. Everyone else could easily use a tablet / other thin client device without any negative impact other than 'getting used to it'. Everyone said the mouse was a gimmick too....
Actually you're right there the majority of offices I've gone to all use sun or wyse thin terminals with VMware view clients.
Maybe I am a dying breed of niche requirements, but I can honestly say I've tried very hard to get into the kind of mentality for smartphones and tablets and I've yet to find one that I don't find too cumbersome in some way vs a full keyboard/mouse combo. I can fully imagine after an extended session of editing a spreadsheet on one I would want to snap the sh*t in half. I don't even use my laptop unless I have to because it doesn't provide the kind of quality experience that I get from a full base unit and a nice big screen. I also maintain that most offices are not actually very productive enviroments :lol:
Still, I'm not so inclined as to believe that there aren't plenty of industries that still require proper workstations and not just clerical/admin type work. Maybe statistics could prove that wrong.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 21:57:17 PM
Maybe I am a dying breed of niche requirements, but I can honestly say I've tried very hard to get into the kind of mentality for smartphones and tablets and I've yet to find one that I don't find too cumbersome in some way vs a full keyboard/mouse combo. I can fully imagine after an extended session of editing a spreadsheet on one I would want to snap the sh*t in half. I don't even use my laptop unless I have to because it doesn't provide the kind of quality experience that I get from a full base unit and a nice big screen. I also maintain that most offices are not actually very productive enviroments :lol:
Still, I'm not so inclined as to believe that there aren't plenty of industries that still require proper workstations and not just clerical/admin type work. Maybe statistics could prove that wrong.
i would hate to use my ipad as any sort of computer replacement. same as you, I hate laptops & only use one for the bare minimum. tablets are good for surfing the web, looking at a tv guide, etc. Best used as a finding information tool. Its my TV remote, my cookbook, my accounts package (intergrates with a desktop version), my web browser, email/rrs reader, etc.
Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on November 21, 2012, 21:57:17 PM
Maybe I am a dying breed of niche requirements, but I can honestly say I've tried very hard to get into the kind of mentality for smartphones and tablets and I've yet to find one that I don't find too cumbersome in some way vs a full keyboard/mouse combo. I can fully imagine after an extended session of editing a spreadsheet on one I would want to snap the sh*t in half. I don't even use my laptop unless I have to because it doesn't provide the kind of quality experience that I get from a full base unit and a nice big screen. I also maintain that most offices are not actually very productive enviroments :lol:
Still, I'm not so inclined as to believe that there aren't plenty of industries that still require proper workstations and not just clerical/admin type work. Maybe statistics could prove that wrong.
you aren't wrong mate, just for general web use which is mostly what I do with my home computer aside from a bit of gaming, and I'd be willing to bet your parents do much the same thing at home, a tablet makes perfect sense.
It's great for media consumption, but you're right it's not a work replacement thing, mind you I'm not sure that it was ever trying to be that, well aside from the grandiose iPad adverts that suggested you could edit presentations seamlessly, yeah you can do it. But it's not as easy as a keyboard and mouse.
I am getting an iPad this week :) For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not :)
Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week :) For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not :)
more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?
I'm now thinking an Asus transformer infinity, if I can find one at not too bad a price. don't think I can justify spending more on an android tablet than an iPad, despite the additional features.
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Quote from: knighty on December 12, 2012, 00:25:11 AM
Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week :) For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not :)
more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?
For 12 years .
I do not know how to translate but in the county(?) I live in (about 10000 people large) I am in the city council (?) representing the lefttist party (vänsterpartiet) also in the board for building, environment and rescue. (MBR).
I like the I-pad better than I thought but the settings are meager and there is no kill all for started apps, the blue tooth does not work with my linux machines (have to use dropbox) other than that it is ok :)
Quote from: bear on February 13, 2013, 00:01:36 AM
Quote from: knighty on December 12, 2012, 00:25:11 AM
Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week :) For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not :)
more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?
For 12 years .
I do not know how to translate but in the county(?) I live in (about 10000 people large) I am in the city council (?) representing the lefttist party (vänsterpartiet) also in the board for building, environment and rescue. (MBR).
I like the I-pad better than I thought but the settings are meager and there is no kill all for started apps, the blue tooth does not work with my linux machines (have to use dropbox) other than that it is ok :)
we call them councillors. People who sit on the local council representing the small part of the town they live in.
Quote from: Eggtastico on February 14, 2013, 07:41:14 AM
Quote from: bear on February 13, 2013, 00:01:36 AM
Quote from: knighty on December 12, 2012, 00:25:11 AM
Quote from: bear on December 11, 2012, 21:09:57 PM
I am getting an iPad this week :) For free, I get it as a politician and will get all "papers" before meetings on it, instead of in the mail. So soon I will know if I like it or not :)
more importantly, since when are you a politician and what do you do ?
For 12 years .
I do not know how to translate but in the county(?) I live in (about 10000 people large) I am in the city council (?) representing the lefttist party (vänsterpartiet) also in the board for building, environment and rescue. (MBR).
I like the I-pad better than I thought but the settings are meager and there is no kill all for started apps, the blue tooth does not work with my linux machines (have to use dropbox) other than that it is ok :)
we call them councillors. People who sit on the local council representing the small part of the town they live in.
I am not representing a part of the town I live in, the municipality has 6 towns, I represent the left party in the municipality which have 2 out of 35 mandates. It is called municipality I think, not county my wrong. There is 13 municipalties in Östergötland County mine is called Kinda
http://www.kinda.se/turism/informationinenglish.4.6e89e88e12e7bcdeae08000255521.html
That'd be a county over here but I'm not sure we elect county wide representatives as you seem to. We'd vote for a local councillor who represents us at the county level too.
I'm not too hot on local politics though so could be wrong
I think its the same kind of thing, our county is broken up into wards & theres an elected representative for each ward, they then sit on the County Council.
My county for example has 64 elected members representing 42 wards (municipalities) that make up the county. Larger towns may have several elected members, while the more rural parts may only have 1 or 2 representing 5 or 6 villages similar to how you represent Kinda.
Getting an XPS 10 Today, so I'll compare it against my Acer A500.
Will be demoing an Asus Vivotab smart in the coming weeks. That's a cheap Atom based Tablet which runs full Windows 8.
My Nephew got a 32gig Nexus 7 at Christmas and has been very happy with it and uses it daily at work and home since, I didn't get a proper look at it till last week and I have got to say it's a nice bit of kit for the money and went and bought one the next day.
I have been using a first gen Ipad as a mobile home media player for the last couple of years and it has served me well on that front ...but little more, however this is a far better device and can do everything my Galaxy X3 does for a fraction of the price. Plus has a far larger and more usable screen, but not being too large to stick in a coat pocket and getting everything synched and shareable on Google devices is stupidly easy these days.