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when to upgrade ?

Started by knighty, April 28, 2008, 23:57:12 PM

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knighty

I want to upgrade....

but thought myaube I should hold off for the AM3 socket cpus....

I dont really need quad core... but as long as the quad cores at the time are the same speed as the dual cors then Ill go quad...

was thinking of going eith 8gig of ram too.... its so damn cheap right now !

anything else i should wait for ?



(5200x2, 2 gig of good ddr, Gforce7900gt at the moment)

Serious

Why 8 gig? nothing will use it. Unless you use some really serious memory hogging programs *and* have a 64 bit OS then you are better off getting 2*2gb dimms

White Giant

If you wait for the next best thing to come out, youll never buy anything!

Ah, tis just like the good old days . . .

Serious

Quote from: White GiantIf you wait for the next best thing to come out, youll never buy anything!

Ah, tis just like the good old days . . .

This is gods honest truth, my eldest brother has been thinking about a new computer for the last year and a half, he hasnt bought anything yet.

His cpu is a 2.2ghz pantsium.

Beaker

Quote from: knightyI want to upgrade....

but thought myaube I should hold off for the AM3 socket cpus....

I dont really need quad core... but as long as the quad cores at the time are the same speed as the dual cors then Ill go quad...

was thinking of going eith 8gig of ram too.... its so damn cheap right now !

anything else i should wait for ?



(5200x2, 2 gig of good ddr, Gforce7900gt at the moment)

Just get a better GFX card and Add some RAM?  You have the basics of a decent enough rig there.  Maybe wait a bit, the ATi 4x00 series are due any time in the next few weeks.  Close enough now to figure its worth waiting to see if it has a decent performance gain.  Possibly get a new Board if you feel you _must_ upgrade, but make sure its AM2+.  That gives you the PCIe 2.0 and Hypertransport 3 for later CPUs.  

knighty

thats kind of what I was thinking.... I dont really game much so the gfx card isnt such a big deal...

really what I wanted to know (and should have said already) is.... is it work waiting for the AM3 sockets to come out ?

Beaker

Quote from: knightythats kind of what I was thinking.... I dont really game much so the gfx card isnt such a big deal...

really what I wanted to know (and should have said already) is.... is it work waiting for the AM3 sockets to come out ?

Possibly yeah, but they arent due for a year or so yet.  If your rig does everything you need it to then why upgrade?  im similar to you in that im running a 6000+, with am X1950.  Ive yet to find out that it struggles with, and its not cost effective to upgrade right now.  What Youll spend probably wont give you a decent enough jump in power for the money youll lay out.  Get a 6000+ or similar if you want a jump in CPU power.  They are less than £100 for one at the moment.  

Clock'd 0Ne

If you want to buy a new one you could donate me your old rig, that will give you something to throw your money at and make it more worthwhile then  -)

knighty

lol... I might update in a month or so... then the left over bits are yours nige :-)

(should be m/b cpu and ram)


Im still deciding if i really should upgrade yet.... I was planning on waiting to get an AM3 m/b so I can upgrade now, and then get a new CPU when these new AM3 ones come out.... but I don;t want to wait a year !

M3ta7h3ad

Ive gone the route of "chuff it" and bought a laptop instead. :)

Decided Id had enough of my POS desktop cluttering things up and taking up space. Think its time to buy a laptop, keep it in good nick, flog it every year and buy another model then :)

White Giant

A few people I know have done the same as meta, kinda of like what people do with new cars I suppose. Get a new one every few years.

Shaun

knighty drop AMD and go Intel, AMD are not worth spending money on at the minute or in the foreseeable future :(   due to Intels big performance lead and better pricing.

IMO go for a Core 2 Duo Wolfdale, with 4 gigs of ram, seeing you have watercooling you should get a really nice OC and it will blow the performance of your current system out the water by quite a large margin.

Around 400 quid for CPU, mobo and Ram. :)

Beaker

Quote from: Shaunknighty drop AMD and go Intel, AMD are not worth spending money on at the minute or in the foreseeable future :(   due to Intels big performance lead and better pricing.

ill give you the performance lead, but bang for buck you can get a more specced out AMD rig than an Intel one.  The Intel fanboys manage to pretend that for a decent motherboard you only need spend the same as an AMD board for instance.  plus, buying the really high-end stuff isnt needed by pretty much anyone.  Why pay a massive premium for something you wont get the benefit out of?

oh, and for HTPC equipment there is no way at present to justify buying Intel either.  They dont have a decent chipset out that will decode Blu-Ray without being forced to either overspec the CPU, or buy an additional graphics card.

Shaun

Beaker dont talk rubbish and be careful who you call a fanboy lol.

400 quid for CPU, mobo and Ram isnt high-end or a lot to spend on a upgrade by any stretch of the imagination,  so far in this thread you have recommended a GFX card, more RAM, new mobo and CPU which would still end up with a slower system than I have suggested and how much change from 400 quid on that lot?

Go read the internet!!! Intel have better "bang for bucks" on lower and midrange chips than AMD and have had for some time, what exactly does HTPC equipment have to do with this current thread???

Beaker

Quote from: ShaunBeaker dont talk rubbish and be careful who you call a fanboy lol.

400 quid for CPU, mobo and Ram isnt high-end or a lot to spend on a upgrade by any stretch of the imagination,  so far in this thread you have recommended a GFX card, more RAM, new mobo and CPU which would still end up with a slower system than I have suggested and how much change from 400 quid on that lot?

Go read the internet!!! Intel have better "bang for bucks" on lower and midrange chips than AMD and have had for some time, what exactly does HTPC equipment have to do with this current thread???

no, i have suggested incremental upgrades.  Intel dont have better bang for buck unless you overclock.  If you dont overclock they dont offer better deals.  Unless you are buying the high-end gear the prices are _much_ better on AMD.  the price of the CPU is all people look at, what about feature spec on the motherboards?  Intel chipsets are either expensive and well specced, or cheap and sh*te.  You are pretty much required to buy a £100+ motherboard or not bother.  Ive just been putting some Intel based machiens together over the past couple of weeks.  

My actual recommendations are in my 1st post.  i.e. upgrade the RAM and GFX.  The rest was only if he feels he has to.  At the moment there is no real reason that I can see he would need to upgrade his existing rig beyond maybe some RAM and GFX.  Plus while you Intel fanboys sit there going on about how much better Intel is, Ill sit in the middle.  My own rigs are AMD purely because when i bought it all an equal spec Intel would have cost an extra £150 or so.  HTPC matters because it points out that a low-end machine at the moment it pretty much best of built on the 780G chipset.  Go and find an S775 motherboard that can even touch it in its field.