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Started by Rivkid, September 27, 2006, 09:23:17 AM

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Rivkid

Hi all,

Anyone know where I can get win 95 on floppy cheaply? Ebay seems expensive as the laptop I want to put it on probably isnt worth more than about a tenner!!! Anyone got a copy gathering dust?

Cheers,

Riv
Career, Wife, Mortgage... my sig was better when it listed guitars and PC's and stuff!

bear

I read somewhere,  and yes if you have a win95b CD you
can make your own. I do think you need to boot and format from a floppy first bootdisk.com is good.

QuoteI copied this from someones web site; however, I neglected to keep the URL
so I am unable to give credit where credit is due:

How to create a floppy installation of Win95b (OSR2) using OEM cd-rom
There have been a few times when I needed to install Windows 95 from floppy
because a system didnt have a cd-rom. Not common since all new systems ship
with cd-roms, but sometimes you run into an older system that doesnt have a
cd-rom built-in, or you have a notebook and external cd-roms are too
expensive. In my case, I bought a Compaq Prolinea 466 on eBay and it didnt
have a cd-rom. I could have gone out and bought the cheapest one I could
find, but this got me thinking about how to create my own installation
diskettes from the cd-rom that I already had. I knew that you cant create a
win95 install from the original release of win95 because the cab files were
~2MB in size. Too large to fit on a single disk, even if it was formatted to
DMF (Distribution Media Format) size of 1.68MB. The Win95b version didnt
suffer this problem because the cab files were just under 1.68MB so the only
problem was formatting a diskette to DMF and finding out what files were
needed on diskette 1, 2, 3 etc.

The first disk needs to be formatted to 1.44MB. This is because a system
without win95 cannot read DMF diskettes. Once win95 is on it, it can read
and write to DMF (although it still cannot format one). The EXTRACT.EXE
utility on the first floppy lets the win95 installer read and write DMF
disks. Thats why the installer can read disk 2, 3... during installation.

Anyway, after a bit of tinkering (and cheating by seeing how others have
done it), I came to the following set of files for disk 1. They all come on
the cd-rom in the \Win95 directory. Simply format a disk to 1.44MB, give it
a volume label of "DISK1" and copy these files from the \win95 directory on
the CD-ROM. If you find yourself having to create win95 disks often then you
could write a batch file to automate it.

PRECOPY1.CAB
DOSSETUP.BIN
EXTRACT.EXE
MINI.CAB
DELTEMP.COM
SCANDISK.PIF
SAVE32.COM
SCANDISK.EXE
README.TXT
SETUP.TXT
SETUP.EXE
SCANPROG.EXE
WB16OFF.EXE
SMARTDRV.EXE
XMSMMGR.EXE
WINSETUP.BIN

Next, get your hands on a utility to create DMF disks. A good one is
MaxiDisk available from www.herne.com. Youre going to need 27 DMF-formatted
floppies, so make sure to have more than that available. Most HD disks will
have no problems formatting to DMF, but if you use really cheap disks then
you may run into lots of errors. Set whatever utility youre using to verify
the format. Dont forget to set the volume label as "DISK2". Copy the
following files from \win95 directory of the cd-rom to disk 2.

PRECOPY2.CAB
WIN95_02.CAB

Next, just copy the remaining cab files to the other DMF diskettes.
WIN95_03.CAB goes on disk 3, WIN95_04.CAB on disk 4, etc. Dont forget the
volume labels on these either.

Youre done. Now you have a set of Win95 OSR2 install floppies. Whats nice
about being able to create your own set of install disks is that if someone
burns a copy with their name/company on it, you can undo the damage by
creating a new disk. By the way, the registration info is saved on disk 2.
So if someone goofs up your install disks by branding them, just recreate
disk2. You will need to reformat the disk, since the user info is not saved
in the files. Its saved on a sector in the floppy, so you will need to
reformat the disk to DMF and recopy the cab files from cd-rom again.

neXus

You mean the boot disk (the god like disk which can even save your debunked windows xp) Or the actualy operating system disks Becuase they like 30 floppies or something silly, seen many in a rubber band before

Beaker

*snork*

It takes HOURS, and it isnt worth installing unless you really have no choice.  I have done 95, 98 and 2k Floppy installs.  I also have migraines, im sure the two are related.

Serious

easiest way is to put the 2.5" disk into an external usb drive enclosure and copy the files over if it wont accept a CD

Badabing

Quote from: Beaker*snork*

It takes HOURS, and it isnt worth installing unless you really have no choice.  I have done 95, 98 and 2k Floppy installs.  I also have migraines, im sure the two are related.

 :shock:  :shock:

ive done that too and the same with office.... an ABSOLUTE pain in the cherries.... never again, thank god.

bear

USB or TP or Paralell port and other puter is the easiest.

Badabing

another thing with floppies i always found was that they ALWAYS died on me - the slightest knock or even a small amount of exposure to electromagnetic fields and they died - a pain in the arse when youre doing an install from them...  :roll:

Beaker

where i had to do it we used to get software and the boss used to have us instantly make copies, then we put it in the safe.  I know its good practice, but Win98 is ~60 disk, windows 2k is slightly more.  He only ordered it on floppy becaus eit was Ã,£5 cheaper :\

Badabing

Quote from: Beakerwhere i had to do it we used to get software and the boss used to have us instantly make copies, then we put it in the safe.  I know its good practice, but Win98 is ~60 disk, windows 2k is slightly more.  He only ordered it on floppy becaus eit was Ã,£5 cheaper :\

60! yikes!

i think the last OS install i did was for Windows 3.11 for workgroups - that was a nightmare, office was about 25 disks.

Rivkid

Problem sorted - took it to work and dug out an old parallel cdrom drive with dos drivers. Now has windows 98 and a d-link wireless card so is happily sitting in the kitchen as a web surfing machine.


its soo cute:


Career, Wife, Mortgage... my sig was better when it listed guitars and PC's and stuff!

bear


Leon

lol pete, that is one old laptop!
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Rivkid

Circa 1994 I believe. Its amazingly nice though - keyboard just feels right. Mind you I think it was damn expensive in its day. A P75 with 40mb RAM and an 800Mg HDD must have cost a fortune back then!!
Career, Wife, Mortgage... my sig was better when it listed guitars and PC's and stuff!