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Started by Tongy, January 30, 2007, 09:02:39 AM

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Tongy

So Windows Vista is out today, anyone think itll be the best thing since sliced bread or a massive flop?

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Tongy

White Giant


Beaker

anyone know any good Ubuntu books i recommend to people who get annoyed their 1.3 Pentium wont run it?

neXus

Service Pack 1 is already in the works and set to be autumn time release

There has been so many moans and groans about Various Vista features Apple are looking very closley seeing if they could sort a licensing system and since working on intel chips looking to launch a pc version of the OSX operating system that will work with current drivers etc and not need to many changes for software here and there.

If it was seem less and worked well with software and drivers I think MS could be in a bit of bother then.

Vista groans are:

Drivers - Quite an issue here
Graphics - Still not up to scratch software and driver wise
directx 10 - not ready
Media rights - Big pile of crap

"broken by design" floating around for it, sums a lot of issues people have just with that phrase

security - To many security features that you need to control. Everyone is up for more security but when it eats resources and is in your face its not a good thing. Great software does it for you in the background and you just know its doing its job.


It has a lot of potential, just a shame MS twonks strike again in many areas

Beaker

Quote from: neXusService Pack 1 is already in the works and set to be autumn time release

There has been so many moans and groans about Various Vista features Apple are looking very closley seeing if they could sort a licensing system and since working on intel chips looking to launch a pc version of the OSX operating system that will work with current drivers etc and not need to many changes for software here and there.

If it was seem less and worked well with software and drivers I think MS could be in a bit of bother then.

Vista groans are:

Drivers - Quite an issue here
Graphics - Still not up to scratch software and driver wise
directx 10 - not ready
Media rights - Big pile of crap

"broken by design" floating around for it, sums a lot of issues people have just with that phrase

security - To many security features that you need to control. Everyone is up for more security but when it eats resources and is in your face its not a good thing. Great software does it for you in the background and you just know its doing its job.


It has a lot of potential, just a shame MS twonks strike again in many areas

they would need something to make games cross-platform, or at least compatible or they wont make as much headway as they think.  Plus the last time Apple produced 3rd party models they turned out some powerful boxes, for a lower price than Apple.  Our file server as a PowerComputing dual PowerPC model.  just over twice as fast as Apples most powerful offering at the time. :)

Rivkid

why bother anyway - if you cant/dont want to go to Vista stick with XP.
Career, Wife, Mortgage... my sig was better when it listed guitars and PC's and stuff!

White Giant

I will eventually switch to Vista no doubt, however Ill be sticking with XP for a while. This rights management has me confused, so Ill have to look that up - otherwise Ill wait until its established and the service packs are floating around.

Cypher

Im in no rush, but Ill inevitably switch to vista at some point in the coming months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4suTsIIBWo&eurl=

Both AMD And Nvidia have released new graphics drivers today for Vista, 32 and 64.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_100.54.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_100.54.html

http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html


Cypher

Also, can someone explain to me simply why OEM copies of software are so much cheaper.

You cant be saving money just on not having casing and manuals to go with it?

I.e an OEM of XP Home SP2 is about Ã,£40.

The only difference I can see is that the license agreement prevents you installing it on another machine. Upgrades, however, are permitted.


Serious

Quote from: CypherAlso, can someone explain to me simply why OEM copies of software are so much cheaper.

You cant be saving money just on not having casing and manuals to go with it?

I.e an OEM of XP Home SP2 is about Ã,£40.

The only difference I can see is that the license agreement prevents you installing it on another machine. Upgrades, however, are permitted.

I have had an OEM XP licence transferred from a broken lappy to another computer, although I had to phone them up to do it.

Reason seems to be profit. Anyone with brains knows to upgrade a part at the same time, those without will doubtless buy at any price. Its really to encourage companies to supply their products rather than anyone elses.

Serious

QuoteVista has speech recognition hole

Microsoft has admitted that speech recognition features in Vista could be hijacked so that a PC tells itself to delete files or folders.

Vista can respond to vocal commands and concern has been raised about malicious audio on websites or sent via e-mail.

In one scenario outlined by users an MP3 file of voice instructions was used to tell the PC to delete documents.

Microsoft said the exploit was "technically possible" but there was no need to worry.

The firm has pointed out that in order for the flaw to be exploited the speech recognition feature would need to be activated and configured and both microphone and speakers would have to be switched on.

"The exploit scenario would involve the speech recognition feature picking up commands through the microphone such as copy, delete, shutdown, etc. and acting on them," a Microsoft security researcher wrote on the teams official blog.

Some Vista users have already tested the exploit and were able to delete files and empty the trash can so that the documents were not retrievable.

Microsoft has said that even if the machine was primed to accept voice commands it would be unlikely the user would not be in the room to hear the file with malicious instructions being played.

The firm also said that voice commands could not be used for privileged functions such as creating a new user or formatting a drive.

"There are also additional barriers that would make an attack difficult including speaker and microphone placement, microphone feedback, and the clarity of the dictation," wrote the Microsoft researcher.

While speech recognition was a feature of Windows XP, in Vista the use has been widened.

"While we are taking the reports seriously and investigating them accordingly I am confident in saying that there is little if any need to worry about the effects of this issue on your new Windows Vista installation," said the researcher.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm