Title: Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Madrocker on June 16, 2007, 10:41:46 AM
Post by: Madrocker on June 16, 2007, 10:41:46 AM
Ok, So I installed Vista ultimate yesterday to have a play and find out what the new operating system Microshaft are trying to shove down our throats.
Even from the start I was trying to hate it? (the little voice in my head told my to stick with xp)
So start the install with no problems, finish the install with no problems, One thing I liked about the Vista install was that it asked all of the questions at the beginning instead of having to hang around waiting for random questions to pause the install halfway through.
Booted up and still no problems, logged in all fine.
Now sitting here thinking well this is pritty whats the catch, but apart from having to fiddle with my modem driver all was/is fine.
So apart from using 20-30% more resources Im enjoying Vista but how long will it last????
When with Microshafts software show its true coulors.
Even from the start I was trying to hate it? (the little voice in my head told my to stick with xp)
So start the install with no problems, finish the install with no problems, One thing I liked about the Vista install was that it asked all of the questions at the beginning instead of having to hang around waiting for random questions to pause the install halfway through.
Booted up and still no problems, logged in all fine.
Now sitting here thinking well this is pritty whats the catch, but apart from having to fiddle with my modem driver all was/is fine.
So apart from using 20-30% more resources Im enjoying Vista but how long will it last????
When with Microshafts software show its true coulors.
Title: Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Sam on June 16, 2007, 10:46:03 AM
Post by: Sam on June 16, 2007, 10:46:03 AM
I have vista business on my laptop and its fairly good but its not much difference from xp.
Title: Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: neXus on June 16, 2007, 10:51:18 AM
Post by: neXus on June 16, 2007, 10:51:18 AM
Quote from: MadrockerOk, So I installed Vista ultimate yesterday to have a play and fined out what the new operatins system Microshaft are trying to shove down our throats.
Even from the start I was trying to hate it? (the little voice in my head told my to stick with xp)
So start the install with no problems, finish the install with no problems, One thing I liked about the Vista install was that it asked all of the questions at the beginning instead of having to hang around waiting for random questions to pause the install halfway through.
Booted up and still no problems, logged in all fine.
Now sitting here thinking well this is pritty whats the catch, but apart from haveing to fiddle with my modem driver all was/is fine.
So apart from using 20-30% more resources Im enjoying Vista but how long will it last????
When with Microshafts software show its true coulors.
Install you software, use your hardware, play some games, check your memory useage etc.
I still hope the rumours are true and this "gaming" version gets released which basically strips all what people most hate about vista but keep the cool stuff.
The interface is defiantly the right step
At very least service pack 2 should have much of the issues sorted and if they bother to actually sort the 64bit version so it actually runs faster then 32bit.
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Jaitsu on June 16, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
Post by: Jaitsu on June 16, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
yea, gonna order my 64-bit CD very soon... just wanna make sure there are 64 bit drivers for all of my peripherals first
to be honest, i like vista... i dont find it slow, i find it more responsive than XP and looks a lot nicer
im running a Pentium Dual Core @ 3.2ghz, with 2gb RAM & an nVidia 7600GS 512mb though so i could see lower end spec PCs struggling slightly with the vista premium features
to be honest, i like vista... i dont find it slow, i find it more responsive than XP and looks a lot nicer
im running a Pentium Dual Core @ 3.2ghz, with 2gb RAM & an nVidia 7600GS 512mb though so i could see lower end spec PCs struggling slightly with the vista premium features
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Madrocker on June 16, 2007, 11:47:22 AM
Post by: Madrocker on June 16, 2007, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: Jaitsuyea, gonna order my 64-bit CD very soon... just wanna make sure there are 64 bit drivers for all of my peripherals first
to be honest, i like vista... i dont find it slow, i find it more responsive than XP and looks a lot nicer
im running a Pentium Dual Core @ 3.2ghz, with 2gb RAM & an nVidia 7600GS 512mb though so i could see lower end spec PCs struggling slightly with the vista premium features
Im on a Amd 64 4000 @ 2.4Ghz 1gig kingston ram and Ati 9600xt.
It runs fine for me.
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Madrocker on June 16, 2007, 13:11:29 PM
Post by: Madrocker on June 16, 2007, 13:11:29 PM
Still no problems, Starting to realy like vista.
Everything has worked perfectly sofar, not tryed games yet though.
Realy liking the gadgets ont the sidebar!!
[EDIT] only thing is I cant seem to find out if I can make the desktop items a tad smaller.
Everything has worked perfectly sofar, not tryed games yet though.
Realy liking the gadgets ont the sidebar!!
[EDIT] only thing is I cant seem to find out if I can make the desktop items a tad smaller.
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: SteveF on June 16, 2007, 13:56:54 PM
Post by: SteveF on June 16, 2007, 13:56:54 PM
the problem seems to be that some people find their system runs INCREDIBLY slowly with Vista.
Ive not actually installed it yet as I have so much work going on all saved on my main machines Im not willing to tinker till theyre done.
Things like this are reassuring tho :)
Ive not actually installed it yet as I have so much work going on all saved on my main machines Im not willing to tinker till theyre done.
Things like this are reassuring tho :)
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: neXus on June 16, 2007, 14:01:26 PM
Post by: neXus on June 16, 2007, 14:01:26 PM
Quote from: SteveFthe problem seems to be that some people find their system runs INCREDIBLY slowly with Vista.
Ive not actually installed it yet as I have so much work going on all saved on my main machines Im not willing to tinker till theyre done.
Things like this are reassuring tho :)
With every patch people say it gets better, but I am still going to hold off till some service packs and maybe this other version come out.
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Jaitsu on June 16, 2007, 23:24:10 PM
Post by: Jaitsu on June 16, 2007, 23:24:10 PM
yea, to be honest i was really annoyed with vista when i first installed it
the wireless networking on it is terrible, but after submitting countless error reports to microsoft support staff they sent me a hotfix through windows update which seems to make it far more stable
but expect random disconnects and connection problems if you have a router thats over 2 years old (even with the latest firmware - which helps but does not solve the issues)
this hotfix is not available to everyone yet, although you can request it... its apparently going to be made public in the first service pack
the wireless networking on it is terrible, but after submitting countless error reports to microsoft support staff they sent me a hotfix through windows update which seems to make it far more stable
but expect random disconnects and connection problems if you have a router thats over 2 years old (even with the latest firmware - which helps but does not solve the issues)
this hotfix is not available to everyone yet, although you can request it... its apparently going to be made public in the first service pack
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Serious on June 17, 2007, 00:22:06 AM
Post by: Serious on June 17, 2007, 00:22:06 AM
According to the reviews less than 1gb ram cramps Vista so it doesnt work well. Even with the 1GB ram it isnt quite as fast as XP on most machines.
A minimum spec 1.6 celery with 512MB ram isnt going to be up to much at all.
A minimum spec 1.6 celery with 512MB ram isnt going to be up to much at all.
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Jaitsu on June 17, 2007, 00:39:15 AM
Post by: Jaitsu on June 17, 2007, 00:39:15 AM
Quote from: SeriousAccording to the reviews less than 1gb ram cramps Vista so it doesnt work well. Even with the 1GB ram it isnt quite as fast as XP on most machines.
A minimum spec 1.6 celery with 512MB ram isnt going to be up to much at all.
thats what vista basic is for
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Serious on June 17, 2007, 13:04:06 PM
Post by: Serious on June 17, 2007, 13:04:06 PM
Even with basic the minimum spec ones I have seen wont play a dvd without skipping. Reviews point to the same problem.
Title: Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: skidzilla on June 17, 2007, 16:21:56 PM
Post by: skidzilla on June 17, 2007, 16:21:56 PM
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Windows Vista? Nope, Linux with Beryl :)
Windows Vista? Nope, Linux with Beryl :)
Title: Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: SteveF on June 17, 2007, 17:48:50 PM
Post by: SteveF on June 17, 2007, 17:48:50 PM
Quote from: skidzilla
Windows Vista? Nope, Linux with Beryl :)
You can really tell thats linux tho lol
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: neXus on June 17, 2007, 19:12:46 PM
Post by: neXus on June 17, 2007, 19:12:46 PM
I am not keen on it
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Cypher on June 21, 2007, 19:16:44 PM
Post by: Cypher on June 21, 2007, 19:16:44 PM
That looks horrible. Ive upgraded one of the machines at work to Bista Buisness for 2 reasons.
1 My Xp Pro machine is occasionaly locking up to the point of stopping me from doing my job, its a recent clean install.
2, I need to learn vista, what better way by using it on the fly.
I;ve installed it plenty of times and updated it, but never actually used it until now I really like it.
The main 2 things I like (so far) is the way menus and features have been centralised within other available tools. How you would normally go about setting up file sharing, printer sharing, etc is all centralised in one menu (networking centre) with the ability to still do things the normall XP way.
The other feature I am thoroughly impressed with is the easy transfer wizard. Getting your profile of XP to vista. Normally with XP as you may know the feature available to you is the files and settings transfer wizard. It doesnt allways work, it takes ages becuase you can only do one step at a time on one pc. Its crap.
This program allows you to transfer any profile from XP, regardless of you are logged in as across a LAN or special USB cable, along with the usual methods of physical storage.
In my case, run the program on Vista, create an EXE on a flash card to run on XP, run it, it connects to the vista machine using a pre generated Key for authentication. Choose the profiles and what parts of the profile to copy, select the target drive within vista. It is extreemly quick, done over the network and works well.
http://minaddikts.free.fr/wp-content/screenshot.gallery.vista.5536/easy.transfer.jpg
They are also working on a version of this that also transfer your applications.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=39F724EB-4E37-4BE0-ADFC-786786E73E50&displaylang=en
That vista machine is a pentium D with 1gb ram (dell optiplex 745), works fine for me, using RDP and multiple programs. No slow downs yet.
1 My Xp Pro machine is occasionaly locking up to the point of stopping me from doing my job, its a recent clean install.
2, I need to learn vista, what better way by using it on the fly.
I;ve installed it plenty of times and updated it, but never actually used it until now I really like it.
The main 2 things I like (so far) is the way menus and features have been centralised within other available tools. How you would normally go about setting up file sharing, printer sharing, etc is all centralised in one menu (networking centre) with the ability to still do things the normall XP way.
The other feature I am thoroughly impressed with is the easy transfer wizard. Getting your profile of XP to vista. Normally with XP as you may know the feature available to you is the files and settings transfer wizard. It doesnt allways work, it takes ages becuase you can only do one step at a time on one pc. Its crap.
This program allows you to transfer any profile from XP, regardless of you are logged in as across a LAN or special USB cable, along with the usual methods of physical storage.
In my case, run the program on Vista, create an EXE on a flash card to run on XP, run it, it connects to the vista machine using a pre generated Key for authentication. Choose the profiles and what parts of the profile to copy, select the target drive within vista. It is extreemly quick, done over the network and works well.
http://minaddikts.free.fr/wp-content/screenshot.gallery.vista.5536/easy.transfer.jpg
They are also working on a version of this that also transfer your applications.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=39F724EB-4E37-4BE0-ADFC-786786E73E50&displaylang=en
That vista machine is a pentium D with 1gb ram (dell optiplex 745), works fine for me, using RDP and multiple programs. No slow downs yet.
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Madrocker on June 21, 2007, 19:25:08 PM
Post by: Madrocker on June 21, 2007, 19:25:08 PM
Still very impressed with vista, not a single lock up crash or anything tbh!
nearly a week and its all good.
nearly a week and its all good.
Title: Re:Windows Vista Ultimate
Post by: Beaker on June 23, 2007, 18:35:25 PM
Post by: Beaker on June 23, 2007, 18:35:25 PM
Just installed Vista BUsiness alongside the XP64 install i did last week (need to do some testing with the 2008 install). its ok, nowhere near as snappy as the XP64 install though, plus its using twice the resorces on classic view with all the fancy Aero crap turned off. Joined it to my domain after some messing around and its bearable. They dont make it all that easy to look how i want it TBH. ill be sticking with the XP64 install for most things until ive no other choice but to use Vista.