QuoteMicrosoft has taken some new steps with Windows, although they dont necessarily match what the Gartner analysts recommended. For instance, the company recently granted Windows XP Home a reprieve from its June 30 OEM cut-off, saying it would let computer makers install the older, smaller operating system on ultra-cheap laptops through the middle of 2010.

It will also add a hypervisor to Windows -- albeit the server version -- in August, and there are signs that it will launch Windows 7, the follow-on to Vista, late next year rather than early 2010.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/04/10/Windows-is-collapsing-Gartner-analysts-warn_2.html

Looks like M$ Fista is as popular as a pile of corgi doos on the Queens lawn...

So vista will end up being a bit like ME? Stuck between two popular versions of the OS and so never really gets/got any credit?

doubt it. because - it works better than XP did at release. Me worked worse than 98.

True sort of but vista is so ME like it is stupid, It i basically just another MS trial with every crap on it and junk as much as possible to see what people like and do not like and 7 being the xp which is something that will actually be a nice OS but since the finally sacked a load of windows people and swapped some staff around some of the good ms developers are working on 7.
If the kernal is anything to go by it will be nice and it is only going to have 4 versions (2 32 bit 2 64bit) and rightly so.

The problem for Vista is that they shoved in a load of junk and tinsel it didnt need, then advertised it as if it was the best thing since sliced bread. People took them at their word, but they had changed it half way through and chucked out all the best bits.

In many ways its like a zombified XP, except it might be a bit more difficult to kill than the average zombie.

QuoteQuoting extensively from internal Microsoft Corp. e-mails, plaintiffs lawyers argued Friday that the company knowingly misled consumers by allowing PC makers to emblazon "Windows Vista Capable" stickers on PCs that could run only the most bare-bones version of the operating system.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/350667_msftvista09.html

QuoteAccording to a presentation served up last week by two Gartner analysts, Windows is plummeting like a Herman Miller chair tossed off the C-Level balcony at One Microsoft Way. The reasons are obvious: Vista is a bloated mess. Corporate America doesnt want it. Even Microsofts own mid-level managers couldnt hide their disgust at what their overly hyped OS simply cant do.

QuoteMeanwhile, in yet another in a series of embarrassing revelations, a Microsoft product manager admits that Vistas infamous User Account Controls -- the "are you really sure you want to do that? really?" checkbox -- were put there to deliberately annoy users, and that this was going to somehow force ISVs to build more secure applications. Per ZDnet UK:

    "The reason we put UAC into the [Vista] platform was to annoy users — Im serious," said Cross, speaking at the RSA Conference in San Francisco on Thursday. "Most users had administrator privileges on previous Windows systems and most applications needed administrator privileges to install or run."

As if using Windows werent already annoying enough. Thanks guys.

http://weblog.infoworld.com/robertxcringely/archives/2008/04/windows_is_fall.html?source=NLC-DAILY&cgd=2008-04-14

Quote from: Markdoubt it. because - it works better than XP did at release. Me worked worse than 98.

I doubt it as its now sold by default on pretty much every new pc out there.

ME never was as far as I knew, or at least not to the extent that vista is now. Try and find an XP desktop computer, and you will struggle. Try and find a vista one and youll get one down your local PC World.

There is also the issue of the mew low power computers and laptops, like the Asus eee. These either cant run Vista at all or do so extremely poorly.
If you have a hugely powerful computer with components and accessories that are fully vista compatible then its fine, if not you are open for a world of pain.

All i can do is hope they either scrap the UAC system form windows 7 or scale it back massively so i dont have my screen screwed over and having to click a button for everything i do.

Why does it have to black out the whole screen just to ask me the question, why not just pop the box up. That would be as good and nowhere near as slow and annoying.

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Quote from: Markdoubt it. because - it works better than XP did at release. Me worked worse than 98.

I doubt it as its now sold by default on pretty much every new pc out there.

ME never was as far as I knew, or at least not to the extent that vista is now. Try and find an XP desktop computer, and you will struggle. Try and find a vista one and youll get one down your local PC World.

Dell made an announcement this week to still be and more of it offering xp on their desktop machines
All low spec and power cheap notebooks hitting the market are running xp or linux

Quote from: SweensterAll i can do is hope they either scrap the UAC system form windows 7 or scale it back massively so i dont have my screen screwed over and having to click a button for everything i do.

Why does it have to black out the whole screen just to ask me the question, why not just pop the box up. That would be as good and nowhere near as slow and annoying.

you can turn that off..... (first thing i did!)

its in the user accounts bit of the contorl panel

Eventually when Windows 7 is released, Microsoft are probs hoping that vista will be quietly forgotten lol

Liam

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Quote from: SweensterAll i can do is hope they either scrap the UAC system form windows 7 or scale it back massively so i dont have my screen screwed over and having to click a button for everything i do.

Why does it have to black out the whole screen just to ask me the question, why not just pop the box up. That would be as good and nowhere near as slow and annoying.

you can turn that off..... (first thing i did!)

its in the user accounts bit of the contorl panel

I was the one that gave you the info in the thread knighty.

I wish i could but it screws up some software on this machine when it is turned off.

^^^ lol / doh !

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Quote from: Markdoubt it. because - it works better than XP did at release. Me worked worse than 98.

I doubt it as its now sold by default on pretty much every new pc out there.

ME never was as far as I knew, or at least not to the extent that vista is now. Try and find an XP desktop computer, and you will struggle. Try and find a vista one and youll get one down your local PC World.

Dell made an announcement this week to still be and more of it offering xp on their desktop machines
All low spec and power cheap notebooks hitting the market are running xp or linux

So youre stating that budget pcs are running linux and xp.

Awesome... walk through your local currys, comet, pc world... have a look at what pcs are running there, have a look at the pcs that the majority of folk are buying.

Yes if you know where to look you can get a pc with XP on it, woo. If youre joe bloggs buying a PC from a store, it will almost always come with vista, unless youre getting some ALDI special.

A few budget pcs running XP does not even begin to touch the numbers of pcs being sold with vista on it.