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2043 nuclear explosions

Started by knighty, October 30, 2012, 03:57:48 AM

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knighty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY&feature=related

the video is a bit slow... but I had no idea there had been so many nuclear explosions... 2053... wtf ?

and 45 of them by the uk :o

Clock'd 0Ne

I actually had no idea we had directly caused any nuclear explosions, I always assumed we had let America get on with it. When you watch that and it really gets going about midway through its pretty concerning!

Mongoose

wow, that's pretty eye opening/scary!

I'd always pictured nuclear tests as taking place almost exclusively on deserted islands in the Pacific, but the vast majority of the dots on that map are on mainland in actual countries.

Quixoticish

A lot of the mainland ones (but not all) will be underground tests. Still rather terrifying.

The UK was the third country to test an atomic weapon after the US and USSR, it was essentially a copy of Fat Man that was dropped on Nagasaki.

If memory serves we were also the third nation to test a thermonuclear weapon?

Binary Shadow

Wow.. seriously wtf? I think we'd struggle to justify the number we created.. then you look at the states with nearly 1000 more!!

Were they letting rip once a week just to prove they could in the end?

DEViANCE

Wow I had no idea, the 50,60,70's really raped the planet didnt they. Makes me even more pissed off that we all get accused of destroying the planet by driving our cars but in reality the governments of the world where unleashing huge amounts of nuclear pollution into the planet on a weekly basis.

zpyder

Some of the comments were quite insightful, EG, Kennedy getting a ban on nuclear testing = no explosions that year. Following year he's assassinated and BANG, loads of tests.

Also interesting how at the start, once Russia got going, every time they had an explosion the US would "retaliate" tenfold!

I know they're all controlled,underground, deep sea etc, but I wonder what kind of cumulative effect on environmental radiation etc it will have had, when compared to power station meltdowns etc.

knighty

I knew carbon dating only works back to 1950ish and anything earlier than that is no good because of all the man made radiation... but I always assumed that was from stuff like power stations etc...

I was expecting there to be about 20 test explosions.... not 2000 :s

Russell

The Americans seem to really love nuking themselves, as for the UK we just seem to love nuking the Aussies, not that we've got anything against them or anything...

Russell

Going off the bit after about 13 mins in it looks like the russians have nuked just about there entire country without any help from the americans, scary.

M3ta7h3ad

Quote from: knighty on October 30, 2012, 21:44:18 PM
I knew carbon dating only works back to 1950ish and anything earlier than that is no good because of all the man made radiation... but I always assumed that was from stuff like power stations etc...

I was expecting there to be about 20 test explosions.... not 2000 :s

That has to be wrong surely, the radiation associated with carbon dating is completely different than that associated with nuclear fission.

That and they've carbon dated pretty much every major archeological find.

zpyder

It's wrong and right at the same time. Nuclear tests released a lot of carbon 14 into the atmosphere so yes, the nuclear tests do effect carbon dating, but not significantly as when doing the carbon dating you use "standards" to account for the loading of C-14 in the atmosphere and calibrate the results accordingly.

knighty

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Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on October 31, 2012, 06:38:19 AM
That has to be wrong surely, the radiation associated with carbon dating is completely different than that associated with nuclear fission.
That and they've carbon dated pretty much every major archeological find.

you got the wrong end of the stick (maybe I didn't explain it well)

can't remember terminology off the top of my head, but when you carbon date stuff, you check the half life of the carbon in something that was once alive, because when it's alive the carbon is being replenished all the time (or something like that) and once it's dead it starts to break down... so you can check anything made out of plants/animals/wood etc...

but the radiation in anything that was alive in 1950 (or after) is more radioactive that it's supposed to be, so it can;t be carbon dated  :-)


EDIT:

I was sure I read somewhere that carbon dating didn't work after 1950... but just googled and it still does work, then just use a different formula for it

Clock'd 0Ne

When you said "works back to 1950ish" I think everyone read that as it only works for anything from 1950 onwards to the present.

knighty

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on October 31, 2012, 15:16:16 PM
When you said "works back to 1950ish" I think everyone read that as it only works for anything from 1950 onwards to the present.

that's what you get for listening to a tard :p