Quote from: Serious

Quote from: Chris HIts worth bearing in mind that "Wicca" probably isnt what you think it is, (its by no way an ancient or historic religion). It was pretty much founded in the 50s by Gerald Gardner and the practices and "rituals" are very much of the 20th century. It came around at the right time and has seen a real boom in the past few decades due to the prevalence of neo-feminism.

Problem is there are several groups operating under the guise of Wica/Wicce/Wicca and several other like spellings. The origin in all cases of the word is wise one and related to a herbalist or a local witch doctor.

The resultant mess comes as much from Raymond Buckland as anyone. He learned from Gardener but their ways parted. TBH in both cases its a mash up of a great number of traditions and you cant sort it all out. Some of it is most definitely Norse, and not Saxon.

Quote from: Davewhat makes you think Id be scared of a bunch of gays?

Dont forget Dave was in the TA, AFAIK still is. They arent known as the Bum Bangers for nothing

I dont want to embark on a theological debate but rest assured serious the vast majority (if not all) "Wicca" have nothing to do with the Norse/Germanic belief systems that existed pre-Christianity.

exactly - theyre all silly little teenagers looking for attention

more religious nuts:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3572325.stm

When are these idiots going to realise this is 2008 and stupid stories of the earth being 2000 years old and stars falling to the sky are nothing more than a story in a book, pushed by large money making organisations that call themselves churches???

Quote from: Chris HI dont want to embark on a theological debate but rest assured serious the vast majority (if not all) "Wicca" have nothing to do with the Norse/Germanic belief systems that existed pre-Christianity.

exactly tbh.. most of it was just invented last century

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Quote from: Davewhat makes you think Id be scared of a bunch of gays?

Dont forget Dave was in the TA, AFAIK still is. They arent known as the Bum Bangers for nothing

that would be the Navy tbh...

though my last unit did have a gay as does my current one

no one is that bothered about it tbh.. as they dont act like complete mincers pretending to be girls etc.. they are just fairly normal blokes who happen to be gay.

Quote from: Markmore religious nuts:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3572325.stm

When are these idiots going to realise this is 2008 and stupid stories of the earth being 2000 years old and stars falling to the sky are nothing more than a story in a book, pushed by large money making organisations that call themselves churches???

check this one out though:

http://www.satireandcomment.com/0208toast.html

Quote from: Chris H

Quote from: Serious

Quote from: Chris HIts worth bearing in mind that "Wicca" probably isnt what you think it is, (its by no way an ancient or historic religion). It was pretty much founded in the 50s by Gerald Gardner and the practices and "rituals" are very much of the 20th century. It came around at the right time and has seen a real boom in the past few decades due to the prevalence of neo-feminism.

Problem is there are several groups operating under the guise of Wica/Wicce/Wicca and several other like spellings. The origin in all cases of the word is wise one and related to a herbalist or a local witch doctor.

The resultant mess comes as much from Raymond Buckland as anyone. He learned from Gardener but their ways parted. TBH in both cases its a mash up of a great number of traditions and you cant sort it all out. Some of it is most definitely Norse, and not Saxon.

Quote from: Davewhat makes you think Id be scared of a bunch of gays?

Dont forget Dave was in the TA, AFAIK still is. They arent known as the Bum Bangers for nothing

I dont want to embark on a theological debate but rest assured serious the vast majority (if not all) "Wicca" have nothing to do with the Norse/Germanic belief systems that existed pre-Christianity.

The original Wicca I would agree with you. The problem is that a lot of the modern ones have no idea what real Wicca was. Its been destroyed by Christianity and the remaining knowledge is insufficient. This resulted in stuff being adopted from elsewhere or just plain invented on the spot.