Quote from: Quixoticish on May 03, 2011, 10:46:25 AM

Quote from: neXus on May 02, 2011, 20:18:05 PM

Quote from: Quixoticish on May 02, 2011, 13:26:38 PM
The cynic in me thinks he's been dead for years and now that Obama's popularity is waning now was the perfect time to publicly kill him.

Did anyone catch the celebration around the White House? Team America springs to mind.

Actually this is not true. There is always a honey moon period and that is indeed over but recent polls he is up. He just owned Fox news and Donald Trump pretty hard and getting good feedback for his recent speech.

The reaction  that has happened, would you really wait? Bush got huge stick for not getting him so really would he have kept it secret? No.

They just got him, they found him, kept their eye on him for a bit and then went in to get him, he resisted and died.

Obama is getting good feedback for his "owning" Fox News and Donald Trump amongst certain demographics, but it has just made others despise him even more.

Incidentally I'm not saying I actually believe this to be true (hence commenting on how this was the cynic in me talking) but to answer your question about the feasibility of keeping it a secret; why the hell not? It's a perfect ace in the hole. Hypothetically speaking, of course. A person would have to be either incredibly stupid or incredibly naive to think that similar things haven't happened in the past in the politics.

Fresh blood in the compound, helicopter blown up with mechanical failure by the team involved. People in the area tweeting about something going on and seeing it, Obama and team in the room listening/watching the live feeds with documents dated not blured out on laps and tables.... Just not likely at all. It happened, Obama gave the go a few days ago and they went in and killed him over the weekend.

They were watching a live feed from a helmet cam worn by the Special Forces guys, so presumably there is an entire visual record of the operation somewhere.

The operation was delayed slightly to accommodate the Royal Wedding.

I serious.

Quote from: Eagle on May 03, 2011, 20:13:00 PM
The operation was delayed slightly to accommodate the Royal Wedding.

I serious.

thats what I believe.. especially with an estimated 1million trying to get a glimpse, a few sucide bombers would have made hell of a mess.

Quote from: Eagle on May 03, 2011, 20:13:00 PM
The operation was delayed slightly to accommodate the Royal Wedding.

I serious.

LOL

Thing is I guess stuff like this can be pretty political - if they were aware he was there for a few months and had prepared for this raid well in advance etc... then I guess, with the orders coming directly from the top, the timing perhaps could be political. Also interesting how they seemingly changed their honeymoon plans over the weekend.

I'm quite gobsmacked by the balls of it all - the team were going in knowing that they'd potentially be getting into a contact with not only bin laden and chums but the Pakistani army, given that they lost one helicopter there was quite a lot of potential for it to have been a complete balls up.

Wonder what their orders were for contact with the Pakistani military or what sort of QRF was in place... potential for lots of political fall out if this had gone wrong.

Quote from: Dave on May 04, 2011, 00:32:12 AM

Quote from: Eagle on May 03, 2011, 20:13:00 PM
The operation was delayed slightly to accommodate the Royal Wedding.

I serious.

LOL

Thing is I guess stuff like this can be pretty political - if they were aware he was there for a few months and had prepared for this raid well in advance etc... then I guess, with the orders coming directly from the top, the timing perhaps could be political. Also interesting how they seemingly changed their honeymoon plans over the weekend.

I'm quite gobsmacked by the balls of it all - the team were going in knowing that they'd potentially be getting into a contact with not only bin laden and chums but the Pakistani army, given that they lost one helicopter there was quite a lot of potential for it to have been a complete balls up.

Wonder what their orders were for contact with the Pakistani military or what sort of QRF was in place... potential for lots of political fall out if this had gone wrong.

Yeah. Pakistan was not told of the operation full stop so we know the US know or had likely intelligence to point to the fact that it is very likely they knew he was there.
Also becoming increasingly clear with how things ran there - he was there for some time and it was not a small quite place you would not notice. He was in their pretty tight WITH FAMILY!
They knew and despite them saying otherwise everyone knows they knew.

Apparently Because their were unknown aircraft in their airspace they did scramble jets but they did not get to them in time before they went over the border.

The team is apperently the elite best best of the US Navy Seals who do all the biggest and most secret and dangerous covert assaults etc. With the nature of what they gathered from observing the place first a capture policy was dangerous and not fully viable. If they could - ok, but they went in to get the job done.

I did like the sound of how they blew up the helicopter so it could not be used etc. Really does sound like something for a movie. I keep thinking clear and present danger. Especially when I see this picture:

http://i.imgur.com/tjRP1.jpg
See her face. They had a live video/audio feed of the event so likely the seals had head cams or similar.

Emergency "destruction" of equipment in situ is usually just a couple of red phosphorous grenades.  Now't hollywood.

Quote from: Eagle on May 04, 2011, 22:34:41 PM
Emergency "destruction" of equipment in situ is usually just a couple of red phosphorous grenades.  Now't hollywood.

Yup - a friend of mine did this on telic with amusing results...

After the incident they report back to JSUB with one less Toyota land cruiser...

Friend approaches the WO2 responsible for signing over vehicles or whatever...

Friend: 'we're missing 1 white fleet vehicle...'
W02 'what do you mean missing'
friend 'we had to leave it'
W02 'well you've got a grid so we can arrange a recovery?'
friend 'I wouldn't bother with that'
WO2 'What?'
friend 'we burnt it'
WO2 'you burnt an £80,000 armoured land cruiser?' 
friend 'erm yep...' 

10 years, millions of bullets,5 hundred thousand rockets, 10 thousand cruise missiles, a billion bombs ,Thousands dead , invasions, tanks , military satelites ,stealth bombers , fighter jets ,the SAS , SBS , CIA , FBI , MI5 , MI6 , Navy seals , trillions of dollars and they finally found him........................................

In his house !!

Quote from: knighty on May 07, 2011, 14:19:31 PM
10 years, millions of bullets,5 hundred thousand rockets, 10 thousand cruise missiles, a billion bombs ,Thousands dead , invasions, tanks , military satelites ,stealth bombers , fighter jets ,the SAS , SBS , CIA , FBI , MI5 , MI6 , Navy seals , trillions of dollars and they finally found him........................................

In his house !!

good old yellow pages.

LOL at you two

What do Osama Bin Ladin and Kate Middleton have in common?