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Title: Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: maximusotter on March 24, 2006, 14:54:39 PM
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18590907%255E601,00.html

More offensive that banning religion altogether, is having an official fairy tale requiring your citizens to kneel on carpets five times daily, but refusing people who believe another fairy tale that involves kneeling and consuming bread/flesh and blood of said savior, their right to do so.

Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: brummie on March 24, 2006, 14:58:50 PM
was mentioned on the news on the telly last night. That he was facing getting it but i never thought they would see it through

v.disturbing indeed.
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Smugs on March 24, 2006, 16:33:19 PM
Totaly backwards imo.
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Serious on March 24, 2006, 18:27:47 PM
If the Islamics want to be seen as a modern religion then they are going to have to drop all these kind of things. Possibly excepting execution for murder and chopping repeat thieves hands off...
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: brummie on March 24, 2006, 21:23:47 PM
maybe being released

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4841812.stm
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2006, 22:07:43 PM
IIRC that muslim chap Ice kay didnt believe me on old tek forums when I said that islamic law calls for a death sentence for apostacy
Title: Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: maximusotter on March 24, 2006, 22:26:34 PM
The Hebrew Bible has a bunch of cool stuff you can do to your kids if they dont obey, including killin! w00t! But you dont see Jews offin little Samuel because he stole his brothers dreidel.

Afghanistan is hopeless though, I think this is almost more about political intimidation through example than a real religious decree being carried out. Muslims and Christians lived together for a long time in Moorish Spain, without too much conflict. The question arises, why do they choose to interpret the Koran in this way now? Politics. Duh.

I dont know whether to say that Islam is the most violent religion, or more accurately, the Muslim world is in general the most violent and unstable today. That hasnt always been the case, but whats changed?
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2006, 22:54:09 PM
nah - it is the correct punishment in Islamic law - it is just that a lot of muslim countries dont enforce it.

Tis on the books in a few though

try going over to saudi - converting to islam just to see mecca then deciding to not bother afterwards & convert back to christianity - theyd have a bloody good go at trying to execute you if you were blatant about it & still in country - obviously as a westener a bit of diplomatic stand off & youd be out after a few months & a couple of beatings but the law still stands for the natives.
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Serious on March 25, 2006, 00:39:46 AM
I know from nurses who have worked in Saudi, including one of my girlfriends I mentioned on the old forums, that the faith police think everyone should obey sharia law, not just the Muslim faithful. The problem being very few people here know about it and what it implies directly.

Any woman with her head uncovered stepping out on the street is just asking for trouble and they are banned from driving, they have to have a male driver to take them anywhere. IN the UK or US it would be regarded as blatant sexisim but its accepted there.

QuoteIn June 1999, up to 30 Christians arrested after reported discovery of a copy of the Bible

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/681597.stm

Even worse

http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/saudi_arabia/document.do?id=AB93DA60E530F173802569A600603A2C
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: soopahfly on March 26, 2006, 11:58:19 AM
Nah, Keep the hand chopping bit.
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Dave on March 26, 2006, 14:56:55 PM
... and the banning women drivers bit  :lol:
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 26, 2006, 18:20:11 PM
Kudos to this lass.

http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

(Doesnt work in firefox apparantly, only IE)

Nicked from another forum :)
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Serious on March 26, 2006, 18:57:11 PM
It looks like M$ have inserted a nasty into their player so it wont accept feeds from FF, happens on every link I try :(  :x
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 26, 2006, 19:18:30 PM
Er.. lets leave browser wars out of this and corporate hatred :) Concentrate on what the woman said :)

And afaiwa its not an MS player is a wierd java player playing a WMV movie.
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Serious on March 26, 2006, 19:47:32 PM
It gives you the option of trying to play it directly in M$ Media Player which it brings up as a seperate item and then Media Player cant find the item, it certainly doesnt use a weird java player  :roll:

QuoteWindows Media Player cannot play the file. If the file is on another computer, verify that you are connected to the network. If you typed a path, verify that it is correct. If the problem persists, the server might not be available.

The link works fine in IE which suggests they are trying to nobble FF again.

OK?
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 26, 2006, 19:52:41 PM
Actually it doesnt here.

http://www.castup.net is the player it uses (no idea what product they are using from there but thats what the player links to)

It looks and feels like an embedded java applet.

OK!?
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Serious on March 26, 2006, 20:04:04 PM
From the page source.
QuoteIt uses Media Player in an embeded window mate, no point in downloading something else when its on your compy...

[edit] if you look on their front page (your link) it has a Windows media service provider badge to say they use the *real* thing. [/edit]
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 26, 2006, 20:07:23 PM
That would be a link to windows media player. not what it uses.

As I said above. It uses Cast up

Quote                           ID="castup_player"
                           WIDTH="480"
                           HEIGHT="386"
                           FRAMEBORDER="0">
               

Its just playing an WMV file.
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: maximusotter on March 26, 2006, 20:14:11 PM
either describe what the vid was about or Im moving this to waffle.

;)
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 26, 2006, 20:16:31 PM
lol :) basically its a muslim woman facing up to one of the clerics who is condemning the christian bloke on a news show thing. She brings up a hell of a lot of valid points its about 5 minutes long, and the cleric ends up calling her a heretic as he has no other defence against her rather sensible issues.

She is in fact someone who you would not want to argue with :D She pwned him :)
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: Serious on March 26, 2006, 20:27:19 PM
I can agree with that :D kicked his religious butt and well worth watching if you can get it to work

But it still uses M$ media player as the player.
Title: Re:Christian Sentenced to Death For Converting in Afghanistan
Post by: maximusotter on March 27, 2006, 02:43:39 AM
Quote from: M3ta7h3adlol :) basically its a muslim woman facing up to one of the clerics who is condemning the christian bloke on a news show thing. She brings up a hell of a lot of valid points its about 5 minutes long, and the cleric ends up calling her a heretic as he has no other defence against her rather sensible issues.

:lol: Righteous. :D

The cleric sounds like the Busheviks. Bring up a valid point and all they have left is the taunt "freedom hater" . :P