So my phone is upgradeable, but I'm kinda happy with it. It's an HTC Desire. Out of interest though I was looking around online, and having not followed any phone news, was surprised to see not only is there an HD version, but a "Z" version which has a pull out keyboard.
The keyboard made me flash back to the Sony Ericsson X1, and I gather it is literally a Desire with keyboard.
But the HD is bigger (which I think is good) and I'm guessing slightly faster? Is it much of an upgrade?
I went right off the HTC stuff after the torment I suffered at the hands of my HTC Hero.
I was looking at the Desire HD, but I remembered the broken promises.
I've now got a Samsung Galaxy S.
It started life as 2.1, got a timely update to 2.2 and Samsung have promised an update to 2.3 in the coming months.
What torment did you suffer at the hands of the Hero, as I really can't fault my Desire.
Quote from: zpyder on February 20, 2011, 16:58:57 PM
What torment did you suffer at the hands of the Hero, as I really can't fault my Desire.
Broken promises about updates.
It was the flagship phone when I got it and then suddenly nothing. It had been out only a couple of months.
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The updates weren't HTC's fault though were they, I thought it was down to Google delaying the updates?
About the only niggle I have is how memory is allocated on the phone still, even after being able to install to SD, I find many large apps either don't allow it, or still take up a chunk of the fairly pitiful on-phone memory.
I have the Desire and the iPhone, and the iPhone is just better, the keypad seems to get things right, you don't accidently press the wrong part of the screen on the edge with your palm, and the corrections seem to be a bit better. Also the apps seem to be better, much more limited on android still.
The only thing I like better on the HTC is marginally better battery than the 3GS.
And I don't want to start and Apple / Android debate, I'm completely impartial and my iPhone is the only apple device I own!! And some of the issues I have will specifically be down to the desire and not android, but a lot of the problems I have are android, although I must say the wireless access point feature is great on the HTC, wish you could do it on the iPhone.
Edit: And yes the SD card expansion limitations are a real PITA!
Indeed.
One of my options is trading in the Desire for ~£150 and putting it towards an iPhone. Fact is I love the Desire, but it's pretty infuriating to see apps that are iPhone only, and pale imitation apps (if any exist) sucking royally.
Try swift key. It's great!
The updates were Htcs fault. The source for 1.6 was out and they were compiling it for similarly spec devices. They just kept lying.
I couldn't stomach buying an iphone. I feel it's overpriced and the contracts offer poor value for money. That and they trumpet rehashed old technology and claim its a gamechanger.
But I digress. Android is open source software if you have the skills you can change absolutely everything.
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had the galaxy s and traded it for the iphone. i just need a phone that works and the iphone was that. what it does, it just does well. dont get me wrong, the galaxy s was a great phone, but it was too geeky, too much messing about. some neat touches, i really wish the iphone had a facebook/twitter widget... i guess im too old to be playing with tech, i just need tools that work.
Matt
I wouldnt be upgrading from the Desire just yet, the HD or Z or iPhone4 might be marginally better but not worth wasting an upgrade on. There will be a whole new generation of phones out soon enough. Lots of dual core phones and the like are starting to appear.
its a fair point. if history repeats then there will be a new iphone in 4 months time... I don't know what else is coming either.
Matt
LG Optimus 2x or Atrix 4g :D
Quote from: shofty on February 21, 2011, 09:30:45 AM
had the galaxy s and traded it for the iphone. i just need a phone that works and the iphone was that. what it does, it just does well. dont get me wrong, the galaxy s was a great phone, but it was too geeky, too much messing about. some neat touches, i really wish the iphone had a facebook/twitter widget... i guess im too old to be playing with tech, i just need tools that work.
Matt
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Quote from: soopahfly on February 21, 2011, 13:52:21 PM
Quote from: shofty on February 21, 2011, 09:30:45 AM
had the galaxy s and traded it for the iphone. i just need a phone that works and the iphone was that. what it does, it just does well. dont get me wrong, the galaxy s was a great phone, but it was too geeky, too much messing about. some neat touches, i really wish the iphone had a facebook/twitter widget... i guess im too old to be playing with tech, i just need tools that work.
Matt
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seriously, im done here. f**king 13 year olds ruining it for the rest.
Lighten up man.
You've sold your soul to the cult of Jobs, therefore you're fair game!
Jeez.
I was pondering not posting this for the abuse I'll no doubt get, but I've been using an iPhone 4 since Thursday, and figured an initial review might be good, given the fact I spent the last 12 months using an HTC Desire.
Sadly my initial encounter wasn't that great due to having next to no time at all on Thursday before having to head out for the weekend. However I had enough time to just about start the registration process on iTunes. Not sure if it went through as I had issues with passwords and all sorts, but everything is working now. For ease of set-up, the Desire won hands down. However, I get the feeling the set up of the iPhone might make things easier in the future in terms of syncing and support.
My next issue was activation of the phone, which took a while, but again was due to lack of time on my part so I hadn't read the steps required. However again it's a case of "other phones don't need this" so Desire wins again. Making a Sim smaller for no real reason other than trying to keep you using the product is pretty poor too.
Now we're onto the more debateable stuff. It took me a while to realise that the settings were all in one place. Initially I thought it was Apple trying to be different for the sake of it, but I do kind of like it, rather than having to go into each app to change its own settings.
The app store is maybe a little easier and quicker to use, though being prompted for a password each time I buy an app is a bit annoying.
Build quality seems solid, so did the Desire, with the exception of the battery cover which seemed a bit flimsy.
I'm liking the default location awareness settings too.
All in all I can see why the iPhones are popular now, their default settings and functionality are set just the way most people would customise an Android device for (me included) and they require less micromanagement. About the only thing I'm missing now is the desires additional buttons, but this isn't much of a biggy at all.
I agree, the inital setup on the iPhone is a little more intensive, although there are reasons for this, at the registration step, basically what it does is downloads your operator settings, including the APNs etc, and how the operator wants you to use the phone.
However say you break your iphone, you the receive a replacement, hook it up to itunes and everything is back how you had it setup before, which is very good, I think on other devices you can do similar, but not quite as well, and as apple kind of force you in to this process, it ensures a good experience if it was to happen.
I'm using the desire at the moment and have been for months (My iPhone has a little incident with water and haven't got round to sorting it out), and much prefer the absence of the buttons on the iPhone, especially the track pad which I keep accidently hitting while sending messages.
The other thing is more or less every app on the iPhone functions in the same way, so even using new apps aren't a new learning curve really. The settings thing you mention is typical Apple the same setup is used in their OSs as well.
talking about location, I find that the iPhone GPS is far quicker than the Desire, I sometimes have real issues getting it to actually work.
And for app purchases, I think they should only ask for the password if the app is chargable, or have that option at least, but in some cases this is used by businesses to stop employees adding their own stuff and running up bills, also it will keep the login active for a time so if you are purchasing lots of apps at one time you only need to enter your password once.
At the end of the day I think developing apps for the iPhone is probably a lot easier as you have very limited hardware differences, as where the Android devices have a far wider range of specs to cater for and no single layout.
I much prefer the iPhone to the HTC, and no I'm not a fan boy, I don't own anything else apple, I just like how the device works and the apps that are available, also the keyboard seems a lot easier to use on the iphone and suggestions seem to be more accurate.
I got the HD Desire but rooted and running Cyanogen 7 RC1 (which is basically a stripped out and tweaked Android 2.3 stock) instead of the HTC Sense. Love the phone and glad I went for it instead of the iPhone 4 (which I used for a month).