http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECE77Imki9M&fmt=18

LoL Fox News, that OReilly guy really thought he was clever

http://richarddawkins.net/

You read Dawkins new book, Bear? Its really good.

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Then again, in the latest episode Ive seen, House is in a mental asylum...

Quote from: skidzillaYou read Dawkins new book, Bear? Its really good.

I have to admit I cant stand Richard Dawkins. Hes become the celebrated love child of the anti-religious crowd, who are often far more fanatical and crusading than anyone religious that Ive ever met.

Hes turned atheism from the absence of belief into a quasi-religious belief in itself.

Pure hypocrisy to be honest.

Quote from: Chris HHes turned atheism from the absence of belief into a quasi-religious belief in itself.

Pure hypocrisy to be honest.

Militant Atheist - Speaking out against religion, its stupidity and the harm it causes
Militant insert_religion_here - Strapping 50lbs of explosive to your chest and killing 20 people.

I am both an atheist and an anti-theist. I actively push for religion to be ended. It is not a "quasi-religious belief" and Dawkins has done nothing other than show people they dont have to roll over and take religious dogma being pushed down our throats day in, day out, particularly in the US.

Yeah I think I will read it if I can get hold of it




btw Goblin your signature reminds me of  SimCity  the original
game which I played on a 4.85 Mhz computer

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Quote from: Chris HHes turned atheism from the absence of belief into a quasi-religious belief in itself.

Pure hypocrisy to be honest.

Militant Atheist - Speaking out against religion, its stupidity and the harm it causes
Militant insert_religion_here - Strapping 50lbs of explosive to your chest and killing 20 people.

I am both an atheist and an anti-theist. I actively push for religion to be ended. It is not a "quasi-religious belief" and Dawkins has done nothing other than show people they dont have to roll over and take religious dogma being pushed down our throats day in, day out, particularly in the US.

And for you and I, to have to suffer arcane Sunday trading laws !

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Quote from: Chris HHes turned atheism from the absence of belief into a quasi-religious belief in itself.

Pure hypocrisy to be honest.

Militant Atheist - Speaking out against religion, its stupidity and the harm it causes
Militant insert_religion_here - Strapping 50lbs of explosive to your chest and killing 20 people.

I am both an atheist and an anti-theist. I actively push for religion to be ended. It is not a "quasi-religious belief" and Dawkins has done nothing other than show people they dont have to roll over and take religious dogma being pushed down our throats day in, day out, particularly in the US.

To push for the abolishing of all religion is just another way of pushing your own belief system (or absence thereof) onto other people rather than adopting a more reasonable and logical approach.

I also find it rather amusing that you were bitching about people being homophobic and prejudiced in another thread (something I agree with you on) and then actively celebrate the fact that you are intolerant of religion. No-one likes militant religious zealots and fanatics but the key here is acceptance and common sense running in parallel with whatever religion, faith, or lack thereof you are a part of. There are plenty of religious crazies out there, but there are also plenty of atheist and anti-theist crazies as well.

Everything to do with Dawkins is mired in hypocrisy. There are far too many parallels between his own opinions and advocacies and organised religion for any logical and sensible person to support the man.

I am intolerant of religion *when it interferes with other peoples lives*.

People can believe whatever they want, but as soon as that negatively impacts on society then it is no longer a matter of personal faith. Thats like calling me hypocritical for being intolerant of murderers and rapists.

the price of free speach is that you have to let people you dont agree with have it too.

Free speech is fine, but when religious opinions start to negatively impact society then they should be curtailed, just as to incitement to racial hatred is not protected by European free speech laws in the UK.

Regardless, free speech does not mean that one cannot seek to remove dangerous ideologies and actions from the world. Racial and sexual inequality should not occur, you cant say "ah well, its free speech for racists/misogynists too". The outcome of their actions in inexcusable, hence we seek to remove those actions from society.  

Quote from: GoblinI am intolerant of religion *when it interferes with other peoples lives*.

People can believe whatever they want, but as soon as that negatively impacts on society then it is no longer a matter of personal faith. Thats like calling me hypocritical for being intolerant of murderers and rapists.

Thats fair enough, I think any logical, rational human being would think the same. You threw me off by describing yourself as an anti-theist, I assumed you were simply against all forms of theism no matter how accepting and peace loving they may be.

I dont want to live in a country where a person cannot wave a banner above their head and declare that the world was produced from out of the nose of the great green arckleseizure if they want to. They have the right to say it, I have the right to ignore them.

If youre talking about people blowing stuff up, forcing others to marry against their will, etc then Im with you every step of the way, but you have to be very careful what you claim.

Religion doesnt cause crazy people, it is only used as an excuse. Remove religion and all youll do is force them to find a new excuse.