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Started by skidzilla, December 01, 2009, 10:36:40 AM

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skidzilla

"Like tasty veals, Neo, but not born.... Grown..."

"The organism is growing at a geometric rate...."

"Soylent Green IS.... MEAT?"

zpyder

I heard about this a few days ago, but then thought I had heard about it a few years back too? Certainly I remember watching a news thing at least 12 months ago on how some scientists had produced some beef muscle tissue or similar in a lab and that they were looking into ways to mass produce it?!

skidzilla

http://www.sphere.com/2009/11/30/scientists-create-lab-grown-pork-bacon-industry-unmoved/

Yes, it is a few years old now, but I think theyre finally scaling up production techniques to a point whereby its commercially viable.

I have to wonder if people would object to eating human tissue grown this way.... :twisted:

neXus

Quote from: skidzillahttp://www.sphere.com/2009/11/30/scientists-create-lab-grown-pork-bacon-industry-unmoved/

Yes, it is a few years old now, but I think theyre finally scaling up production techniques to a point whereby its commercially viable.

I have to wonder if people would object to eating human tissue grown this way.... :twisted:

Yeah, I Read this too. They just have to artificially build up the meat as if it was walking around as part of an animal for a while. Which I am sure they will work out to do. They just need to avoid chemicals and crap being in it as a result of course.

But if they can crack it, and get the costs down for it then it means quite a lot. Not just food either to be honest, I am sure the same basic technology is around the whole organ growth side of things or/and if you have lost a lot of muscle from say a shark bite (rare example I know) then they could grow that and replace it?

Tech is a thing to behold. I think When I am 50 I can get a lung replacement if I need one I think. Cost me a fair whack mind, but they will be able to by then.

zpyder

Quote from: neXusTech is a thing to behold. I think When I am 50 I can get a lung replacement if I need one I think. Cost me a fair whack mind, but they will be able to by then.

When youre 50 will the population be such though that its cheaper to buy the organs? Im thinking of a book called "Gateway" in which full organ harvesting was legal, to the point of people being paid money to then be put to sleep and have their organs removed. This was really expensive too mind.

Would be good to think that itd answer a lot of problems, but at the same time I wonder how long itll be before the nutjobs crack on to it and start destroying the research labs on ethical/religious grounds ><

Heh, maybe those Jamie Oliver shows where he took people to see where their meat came from would be a thing of the past in the future, as theyll no longer come from animals, but vats :D

Leon

With or without the arguments Im a full meat eater (to the point of I have and will happily kill, gut, skin, cook and eat the animal) without complaint. But Im also someone that no matter what rumors are going around the local chinese/indian cooking cats/dogs/rats.... I stick to the If it tastes good and doesnt make me ill, I dont give a f**k what it is! - This will work the same for this fake meat to be honest if it tastes/feels the same as normal meat then Im all for it I suppose (but then brings up the unemployment of 1000s of meat rearers)
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knighty

ahhhh... itll take years for them to scale it up to production, and itll be even longer before its cheaper than cows...  

acording to wolfram alpha we have....

cattle | 10.3 million  (2007 estimate)
chickens | 158 million  (2007 estimate)
goats | 95000  (2007 estimate)
pigs | 4.83 million  (2007 estimate)
sheep | 33.9 million  (2007 estimate)

zpyder

That 10.3 million for cattle seems lower than youd have thought?

knighty

at half a ton each.....

depends on how many are milkers... and how many are for meat....  pretty quick turn around for meat, they normally kill them before 30months old - probably 90% of them are - theres different rules for over 30months because of bse etc...

tho I think about 30% of our meat is imported too ?

dunno about milk ?