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Title: Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 24, 2006, 13:58:04 PM
Have a wee problem I need to approach with my boss I think.

Ive worked for the current company for the past 2 years (29th march = 2 years). However in that time I have signed no contracts at all, nada... my employment was confirmed via a letter I recieved that is now out of date (says I will be employed as a data entry clerk for the rate of 5.25 an hour, im now a support tutor on a 7 an hour rate).

As no formal guidelines have been set, and Ive no contract of employment. What is the minimum notice I need to give my employers in order to leave the company? or is it a case of leave whenever its convenient for me?

Edit: Resolved. Called ACAS (employee hotline thing run by the dti I think) got them to confirm it.

Its 1 weeks notice unless I have a contract specifying otherwise.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: brummie on March 24, 2006, 14:03:40 PM
i dont think youll get off that easy TBH
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 24, 2006, 14:05:18 PM
See post above :)
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: brummie on March 24, 2006, 14:06:26 PM
ahh a week is better than the month most make you do  :D

good luck withn the reference  ;)
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 24, 2006, 14:11:39 PM
lol im not leaving under duress or hostility.

My reference will be fine. I wouldnt change jobs if I didnt have to. Heck im going to do call centre work the lowest of the low (for 118118) because they pay well (the same as what im on now, without bonuses!), and I can work whatever hours I want.

My current employer is only open during 9 till 12:30 on the weekends, when im happy to work until 8pm... in fact on sundays im stuck in cardiff until 5pm anyway due to buses and trains, so a massive chunk of my time is being wasted. During the week I can work until 10:30pm... current employer its only until 9pm.

Found this on the acas site, so come march 29th I may need to give 2 weeks notice.

QuoteStatutory rights to notice

Most employees (8) are entitled to at least one weeks notice after one months service, two weeks after two years and an additional weeks notice for each complete year of employment up to a maximum of 12 weeks for 12 years service. An employee must give at least one weeks notice after one months service and this requirement does not increase with longer service.


edit: AH WOOT! :) didnt notice that... just bolded it for you lot to see :) so 1 week it is.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: brummie on March 24, 2006, 14:14:42 PM
your confusing me now  :shock:

edit#: ah right i see
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Serious on March 24, 2006, 18:37:47 PM
IIRC after two years you gain more employee rights but if you dont want to work for them and can get a job elsewhere easily enough then good luck ;)
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2006, 21:36:43 PM
I resigned from a job a couple of weeks ago on ethical grounds I think I had to give 1 weeks notice but tbh... they werent too fussed & I left as soon as I resigned. Fortunately Ive had several job offers from other firms.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Pete on March 24, 2006, 21:57:50 PM
What would the consequences be if you just walk out?

 I know a few contractors in a similar boat who are saying they dont have to give any notice at all as they havent signed owt.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2006, 22:22:44 PM
different for contractors though as they arent employees
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 24, 2006, 22:37:16 PM
I wouldnt get a shining reference from them if I did walk out.

B&Q my old employers were kind.. meant to work a month but the managers arranged sickness + pay for the last week, so worked 3 weeks... bought em all a pint at me leaving doo, and said goodbye like :)

Id work there again probably as the atmosphere and friends I had there were brilliant, just its too far to consider.

Any suggestions for work in the cardiff area from 6pm onwards? and on weekends (any hours)??
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2006, 22:59:48 PM
Quote from: M3ta7h3adAny suggestions for work in the cardiff area from 6pm onwards? and on weekends (any hours)??

Join the TA - one evening a week & a weekend or two every month

unless of course you end up going to the giant sandpit....



edit - that is a US national guard pic but the same is true for the TA tbh..
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: DEViANCE on March 24, 2006, 23:00:31 PM
Quote from: Dave
Quote from: M3ta7h3adAny suggestions for work in the cardiff area from 6pm onwards? and on weekends (any hours)??

Join the TA - one evening a week & a weekend or two every month

unless of course you end up going to the giant sandpit....

(Image removed from quote.)

 :lol:
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 24, 2006, 23:27:07 PM
Quote from: Dave
Quote from: M3ta7h3adAny suggestions for work in the cardiff area from 6pm onwards? and on weekends (any hours)??

Join the TA - one evening a week & a weekend or two every month

unless of course you end up going to the giant sandpit....

(Image removed from quote.)

edit - that is a US national guard pic but the same is true for the TA tbh..

Id definately consider it :) bigtime. Wanted to join the TA previously but it doesnt offer enough pay.

I need to scrape together Ã,£350 a month purely for rent and rates, at the moment I have about another Ã,£120 in bills per month.

Which means I need Ã,£470 a month at least... more if I actually want to live and buy food.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 24, 2006, 23:36:43 PM
oh sh*te..

its 312 a month including rates.

So And assuming my bills come to the same amount as they did november last year (the bank statement thats lying in front of me :D)

That would be: Ã,£153.87

So I need: 465.87 minimum a month.

At the moment im earning roughly 490 a month.

eeek... I need a well paying job folks with decent numbers of hours in the nights and evenings and weekends.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2006, 23:57:30 PM
so you want to work after 6pm & weekends
and you want to earn a decent ammount

you could always try these guys:

http://www.siguk.co.uk/
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 25, 2006, 00:07:24 AM
lol :) I currently do it (earn a decent amount and work weekends and evenings, not the male escort thing :D)

But... I cant get the hours on a weekend when I can make more money.

What I may do is try and eek out my wages... need to really have a good look at my bankstatements find out the wasted cash and sort it out. Things like screenselect subscriptions and magazine subs (damn personal computer world!) can go by the wayside. Then sort out my phone bills.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 25, 2006, 00:12:13 AM
Just thinking...

I earn just over the rent and bills stuff with my current job... If I joined the TA as well, Dave if you dont mind me asking how much do you earn roughly for turning up to every drill night and every weekend away a month?
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2006, 00:17:13 AM
best thing to do is to try and budget tbh...

I pay 630 per month rent for a tiny little room in a shared house in London - was ok when I moved here but Ive resigned from the job I was doing to pursue a different career with considerably less prospects for earning money in the short term.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2006, 00:21:32 AM
As far as the TA goes

- youll get 1/4 of a days pay for an evening & 2&1/2 days pay for a weekend + you get paid for each day on courses/camps etc... + a tax free bonus each year - starts at 350 for the first year right up to 1500 for 5th year.

depending on the unit there may be lots of opportunities for courses, training weekends - IIRC joining a unit like REME or signal will get you extra trade pay etc... - it isnt great pay but it makes a difference if you are a student

Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 25, 2006, 00:28:53 AM
Stuck between Missile Artillery whatsit... and Signals. :D Could also go for intelligence but thats labeled as a "specialist" unit no idea what that entails.

Thanks for the full explanation of the pay :) Damn confusing reading the site "you get the same pay as a regular soldier" thats nice.. but WHAT pay?! :D lol
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2006, 00:39:07 AM
it isnt quite the same as a regular soldier - tis slightly less as there is some xfactor or some other admin bollocks that I dont fully understand(nor am interested in understanding) involved - ne way when you go on an operational tour your pay gets bumped up a bit to bring it in line with the regulars then you get a mobilisation bonus, + you get an allowance for being away from friends and family + you get an allowance to top up your pay if your civilian pay is higher (not hard - soldiers get paid naff all tbh...)

in terms of general attendance you should be able to get a couple of hundred quid each months if you are keen & try to get in two weekends a month - can do more (depending on unit) if you book yourself on loads of courses.

as for your two units - join the signals - that sort of artillery unit isnt likely to be deployed in role so training to shoot down airplanes is just going to be a waste of time + chances are they dont get to actually fire the weapon system very often as it tends to be pretty expensive. + you get fairly good pay in the signals if you do a load of trade courses - you work in IT for a start which they will love & then they will no doubt send you on a shed load more military courses which may well help your civilian career too.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 25, 2006, 00:55:36 AM
Sound.. well im still at uni so wouldnt be looking to get mobilised :D lol.

Mainly looking for at least Ã,£100 a month to beef up the funds, and it means I can stay at my current job.

TA money = Beer money. Job money = Rent money.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 25, 2006, 17:00:11 PM
Woop.. talked it over with my dad (Used to be in the Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers in the TA) finally decided that signals would probably be ideal for me considering Ive already got a background in IT, and Im familiar with HF and VHF radio having used it in the past. So Ive set the wheels in motion.

Sent an email off to the squadron blokey asking some questions, mainly do I need a minimum level of fitness before joining, what times and days do they train? and finally roughly how many weekends do they have away per month.

Could soon be a member of the 53 (Welsh) Signal Squadron (V) woo!
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: addictweb on March 26, 2006, 14:53:59 PM
118 118!

I only work weekends (8hrs per day = 16h /week) and I get Ã,£100-Ã,£130 a week depending on my bonus (90% of the time Ã,£130).

If you work 1/2 evenings, maybe most of the day wednesday after uni you could easily be on Ã,£150 a week (Ã,£600 p/m) consistently.

Plus I work here, and I am posting from work, there is free hot chocolate!
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 26, 2006, 15:02:47 PM
bonus?

What is the bonus for targets re: average call time or are you getting commission for saying "do you want me to put you through" then letting the customers get raped at 40p per minute :D

still reckon he should give the TA a go - much more fun than picking up the phone & following the same script every 20 seconds.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 26, 2006, 15:05:40 PM
Quote from: sexytw118 118!

I only work weekends (8hrs per day = 16h /week) and I get Ã,£100-Ã,£130 a week depending on my bonus (90% of the time Ã,£130).

If you work 1/2 evenings, maybe most of the day wednesday after uni you could easily be on Ã,£150 a week (Ã,£600 p/m) consistently.

Plus I work here, and I am posting from work, there is free hot chocolate!

Didnt I tell ye?

Ive tried 118118. They need part-time evening staff and weekends but they only have fulltime training courses on at the moment which are 3 weeks 9-5 training that require 100% attendance apparantly. So theyve asked me to call back in June when they will have part time stuff running, but I cant afford to wait that long. I need this sorted asap, hence why Ive already started the wheels rolling with regards to joining the TA.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: addictweb on March 26, 2006, 16:36:48 PM
Bonus:
Av call time: <42s
Attendance:  100%
15 randomly monitored calls all follow protocalls
and a few other minor things.

Rich:
Cant you train during easter? Thats 4 weeks free.

I cant omit the fact that the job sucks. Its mind numingly dull and extremely mentally taxing. It also have very few promotion oppotunities after you get to where I am (which isnt hard).

See how my oppinion changes after 6 hours @ work.

PS Its only 14p per min to call 118118 ;)
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on March 26, 2006, 17:01:16 PM
lol I could I guess but it would be a bastard to try and arrange, and Id have to give that weeks notice at work.
Title: Leaving work advice
Post by: knighty on March 26, 2006, 17:11:19 PM
edited: ignore this, i didnt see the second page and was replying to the first :o
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: Dave on March 26, 2006, 17:54:43 PM
Quote from: sexytwBonus:
PS Its only 14p per min to call 118118 ;)

yeah but do you still charge people 14p per minute after you have put them through to the number they wanted? & dont you have a fixed charge on top of that too - so the 14 p per minute is irrelevant if the call only lasts 42 seconds on average & the fixed charge is say 40p or something just for calling in the first place.
Title: Re:Leaving work advice
Post by: addictweb on March 26, 2006, 19:10:20 PM
If you are connected its still 14p per min for the duration of the call. Not advisable if your going to some customer service line.
There is a 50p initial charge which includes the first min so 90% of calls that arent connected cos 50p.

Those prices are from BT landlines tho, nealry all mobile operators put their own charges on top, the worst I saw was a Tmobile PAYG tarrif that incresed taht charge to over Ã,£1 per min.

Thats my corperate spiel over. Im leaving work now, im back to normal me.