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Title: New British Coins
Post by: Cypher on April 02, 2008, 18:39:27 PM
BBC News
QuoteThe winning entry in a competition to design the first new British coin series for 40 years has been unveiled.

There were 4,000 entries to the public competition to find the new designs.

Matthew Dent, 26, from Bangor, Gwynedd, won the competition. He will have his work stamped on the side of millions of coins.

I think they are very cool myself. :)

http://www.royalmint.com/newdesigns/newDesignsHome.aspx

The old coins will stay in circulation.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 02, 2008, 18:43:40 PM
looks pretty good actually, I was expecting something awful but I like that idea.

Are they phasing out the £2 coin then? it doesnt seem to be included in the set as displayed on that site.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Cypher on April 02, 2008, 18:51:56 PM
Just looked it up.  Since its only 10 years old its not being touched.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Smugs on April 02, 2008, 18:52:08 PM
They look nice together but separate they look crap imo especially the 5p coin.

As for the two pound coin id imagine as it a relatively new coin and it's always changing its "reverse" to commemorate something, that's why its not in the collection.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on April 02, 2008, 18:54:55 PM
When are they going to sack off hard cash and get everyone up to the century paying by card?

The designs are okay, but to be honest I wont give a damn when I have a handful of the rough sided coins in my back pocket irritating me.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 02, 2008, 18:55:16 PM
I can see that logic, does seem a little half hearted though

"were going to have a unified design idea across all the coins........except that one"
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 02, 2008, 18:58:46 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeWhen are they going to sack off hard cash and get everyone up to the century paying by card?

supply and demand Clockd, the people have got to want it or at least not dislike it. Perhaps you might get a majority of people on this forum behind you, but we are hardly a representative cross section of society.  
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mark on April 02, 2008, 19:23:06 PM
the new british coinage should be the euro
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: White Giant on April 02, 2008, 19:34:22 PM
Quote from: Markthe new british coinage should be the euro

Speakers Corner that way ------->

  -)
Title: New British Coins
Post by: Jaimz on April 02, 2008, 19:46:15 PM
look rather gimmicky to me :/

Jaimz :rock:
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Beaker on April 02, 2008, 19:54:02 PM
Quote from: Markthe new british coinage should be the euro

no thanks, our economy is decent enough not to have to join.    -)
Title: New British Coins
Post by: Goblin on April 02, 2008, 20:02:14 PM
Those are nice. Very modern looking, which probably means in three years theyll look old hat.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mark on April 02, 2008, 20:19:54 PM
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Markthe new british coinage should be the euro

no thanks, our economy is decent enough not to have to join.    -)

Didnt do the south (Of Ireland) much harm - they have a smaller defecit, a GDP per person of 20% more than the UK, lower unemployment and consistently higher growth than us - all since joining up

Im no financial wizard but those look good to me!

Plus, it would mean I could go and get fuel without having to lift euros in their dodgy machines!
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Quixoticish on April 02, 2008, 20:23:20 PM
I actually quite like the new design, its rather smart. I caught a glimpse of the "One Show" (utter utter low budget garbage, avoid at all costs) and they ran an article on this last week, it was the first Id heard of it. The focus was them whining incessantly that "Britannia" was being taken off the 50p due to political correctness gone mad and so we dont upset our new "multicultural" society. (It seems to be rather trendy to jump on the "oh noes! They be stealin mah British-ness" bandwagon at the moment). They then went on to interview people who had sent in designs or something for the competition, and to be honest the ideas were absolute cack, youd get more relevant designs from a primary school class. (I believe the presenter of the program wanted the Wi-Fi symbol on our coinage. Seriously, WTF?).

So yes, after that debacle its rather nice to see theyve chosen a fairly good design. And avoid the One Show. :cheers:
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: BigSoy on April 02, 2008, 20:25:46 PM
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Markthe new british coinage should be the euro

no thanks, our economy is decent enough not to have to join.    -)

Didnt do the south (Of Ireland) much harm - they have a smaller defecit, a GDP per person of 20% more than the UK, lower unemployment and consistently higher growth than us - all since joining up

Im no financial wizard but those look good to me!

Plus, it would mean I could go and get fuel without having to lift euros in their dodgy machines!

Big part of that is to do with the suspiciously low corporate tax rates though surely?
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 02, 2008, 20:29:36 PM
Quote from: BigSoy
Quote from: Mark
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Markthe new british coinage should be the euro

no thanks, our economy is decent enough not to have to join.    -)

Didnt do the south (Of Ireland) much harm - they have a smaller defecit, a GDP per person of 20% more than the UK, lower unemployment and consistently higher growth than us - all since joining up

Im no financial wizard but those look good to me!

Plus, it would mean I could go and get fuel without having to lift euros in their dodgy machines!

Big part of that is to do with the suspiciously low corporate tax rates though surely?

to echo the above comment

Speakers corner is that way   :arrow:  (on a side note, thats a rubbish smiley, could we have a better pointy one?)
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mark on April 02, 2008, 20:31:24 PM
couldnt tell you, i know sod all about it - just happened to hear those numbers on the radio today!

income tax there is higher, car tax is MASSIVELY higher - up to 1000 a year (and soon to be more), they have ludicrous VRT - The cost of living in southern ireland is much higher than the uk.

plus, theyre all gypos
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Dave on April 02, 2008, 20:38:09 PM
Quote from: Markplus, theyre all gypos

now then that just isnt very PC.....




... I believe "Pikey" is the correct term ;)
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on April 02, 2008, 20:40:43 PM
Quote from: Mongoosesupply and demand Clockd, the people have got to want it or at least not dislike it. Perhaps you might get a majority of people on this forum behind you, but we are hardly a representative cross section of society.  

Yeah, I know... it just irks me when theres plenty pushed on us we dont actually want or really need (biometrics, chip and pin, etc theres probably plenty of examples).

At least were finally phasing out cheques and transfers will be instantaneous soon :cheers:

Feel free to come up with a better pointy smily if you like too :lol:
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: zpyder on April 02, 2008, 20:51:40 PM
Hands up who here will probably at some point try to put together the whole set just to see the whole image?

*puts hand up*
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: zpyder on April 02, 2008, 20:54:22 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeFeel free to come up with a better pointy smily if you like too :lol:

Some of these are "pointy" :D
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 02, 2008, 22:17:40 PM
mmm not totally sure thats the kind of "pointy" I meant Zpyder lol. Still very cool emoticons, any chance of bunging some of those in oh mighty Pirate Lord?
Title: New British Coins
Post by: White Giant on April 02, 2008, 22:52:37 PM
Animated, they would be ace.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Serious on April 03, 2008, 00:52:04 AM
Quote from: zpyderHands up who here will probably at some point try to put together the whole set just to see the whole image?

*puts hand up*

Just look at the back of the £1 coin ;)
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 03, 2008, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: zpyderHands up who here will probably at some point try to put together the whole set just to see the whole image?

*puts hand up*

Just look at the back of the £1 coin ;)

Thats like saying "why bother to do the jigsaw, the picture is on the lid"

/me raises hand
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: neXus on April 03, 2008, 10:56:00 AM
I like they fact they are going to be a more modern design but really who looks at the pictures etc on the coins? Now and again on the back with a new thing you go "ooh new £1" and then that is that. You really look at colour and shape normally.
I did not even know they were looking to do it tbh though, have to admit and thinking about it was it not a bit of a challenge? You have to do a design considering the etching etc that will not mess with machines that distribute them and also way the same again for use in machines? So any design would need to have that in mind making it quite clever?


LOL look at the guy who designed them.. (http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3990/designersi1.jpg)


I would have liked to be able to see all the designs, anyone know a source?
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: zpyder on April 03, 2008, 12:05:13 PM
What would have been cooler, but would have taken lots more work and would ramp the manufacturing costs up, would have been them using the coat of arms but making it so that theres maybe a dozen or so of each denomination but of different parts.

This would have meant you could either arrange the coins (If youre sad like me) as they have in the pic, or go for sets of each denomination and stacking them etc so theres a little overlap.

That way the gimmick of trying to make the coat of arms would last a lot longer as thered be 5 different loads of coins and any number of combinations...
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: SteveF on April 03, 2008, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: zpyderWhat would have been cooler, but would have taken lots more work and would ramp the manufacturing costs up, would have been them using the coat of arms but making it so that theres maybe a dozen or so of each denomination but of different parts.
And not only that - it would require the replacement of every coin mechanism on every machine in the country...

Theres a limit to how big a change they can make and keep the same size and weight.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: zpyder on April 03, 2008, 12:25:31 PM
It wouldnt require a change to the mechanism, the shape and weight of the coins would remain the same. The patterns would only change.

But as I said, I understand it would not be possible, just cool if it was :P
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 03, 2008, 13:51:29 PM
Quote from: zpyderIt wouldnt require a change to the mechanism, the shape and weight of the coins would remain the same. The patterns would only change.

But as I said, I understand it would not be possible, just cool if it was :P

you could do it over several years, with the coins changing places each year. The date stamp changes every year so presumably they have to make a new mould anyway.

I agree it would never happen, but I also agree with Zpyder that it would be cool
Title: New British Coins
Post by: Mardoni on April 03, 2008, 13:56:07 PM
(http://www.royalmint.com/web/multimediafiles/UKF8BPS_1.jpg)(http://www.royalmint.com/web/multimediafiles/UKF8BPS_2.jpg)

Ive ordered the Base metal collection but I wish I could afford the Platinum collection tbh :p

I like the fact that the design on each smaller denomination coin, when laid out as above, produces the complete shield as shown on the one pound coin. Nice touch.


(btw, £35 for £1.88 in currency is a great business model. Why didnt I think of it !??)
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: SteveF on April 03, 2008, 14:42:46 PM
Quote from: Mongoose
Quote from: zpyderIt wouldnt require a change to the mechanism, the shape and weight of the coins would remain the same. The patterns would only change.

But as I said, I understand it would not be possible, just cool if it was :P

you could do it over several years, with the coins changing places each year. The date stamp changes every year so presumably they have to make a new mould anyway.

I agree it would never happen, but I also agree with Zpyder that it would be cool
Oh I see what you mean now - split the shield into more parts...

I guess the problem would be that you end up with lots of coins with nothing actually printed on them or just a line or leg of a lion, etc.  The full pattern might look pretty but when you looked at the individual coins youd just wonder what the hell are those three lines about.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 03, 2008, 16:09:36 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7328107.stm

a good point is made here, the new designs lack a numeral to denote their value.

For those of us used to them over the years, this is a non-issue. For tourists and young children, who are shakey on reading the numbers writen down, this could be fun and games. Not impossible certainly, but more difficult.
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: zpyder on April 03, 2008, 17:19:31 PM
What about the other side of the coin?
Title: Re:New British Coins
Post by: Mongoose on April 03, 2008, 17:42:56 PM
presumably still dominated by the queens head, if they tried to change the other side THEN youd see some complaints.