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Title: PC
Post by: Mark on February 02, 2008, 00:18:29 AM
Well, another nail in the coffin for common sense

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7222008.stm

What is wrong with people? They cant even have a TV ad that says stupid dog, clever fiesta because some f**king dried up old hag is offended by it.

The media and its paedophilia obsession. When are people going to realise that this is not a new thing, it has been going on since the beginning of time. I am actually afraid to take my young cousins anywhere for fear of being thought of as a paedo. Its f**king ludicrous. There are no more paedophiles than there were 100 years ago, they just get more media exposure nowadays.



Title: PC
Post by: Poison_UK on February 02, 2008, 00:35:11 AM
.............

Reminds me of work. Ive got to be so carefull and totally PC, its not the Segregation unit anymore... Its the Separation and Care Unit. PC! f**k PC!
Title: Re:PC
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2008, 01:35:57 AM
This is very pathetic, its a normal girls name, albeit not a very common one. The reference is hardly going to inflect anything on the kids now is it. Paedophiles everywhere arnt going to be flocking to Woolies in the hopes of luring young children to their bedrooms by dressing them up in the new Lolita bedlinnen range.

Title: Re:PC
Post by: BigSoy on February 02, 2008, 10:36:19 AM
Im not convinced that this is entirely to do with "Political Correctness" as such, the name does have some connotations which probably are fairly inappropriate for a young girls bed.

Unless of course youre aiming to raise a young Stripper/Hooker/Porn-Star.
Title: PC
Post by: Eggtastico on February 02, 2008, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: MarkWell, another nail in the coffin for common sense

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7222008.stm

What is wrong with people? They cant even have a TV ad that says stupid dog, clever fiesta because some f**king dried up old hag is offended by it.

The media and its paedophilia obsession. When are people going to realise that this is not a new thing, it has been going on since the beginning of time. I am actually afraid to take my young cousins anywhere for fear of being thought of as a paedo. Its f**king ludicrous. There are no more paedophiles than there were 100 years ago, they just get more media exposure nowadays.




Its like that bloke who got done over because he was a pediatrician. People got it mixed up with peadophile



A paediatrician at a south Wales hospital has been forced out of her home by vandals who thought her job title meant the same as "paedophile".

South African-born Yvette Cloete woke up at her home in Newport to find the term "paedo" spray painted all over her walls.

The specialist registrar at the Royal Gwent Hospital is now in hiding at a friends house and claims she will never go back to her own, saying: "I have moved out of the area. I no longer feel safe."
Title: Re:PC
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on February 02, 2008, 13:11:49 PM
Quote from: BigSoyIm not convinced that this is entirely to do with "Political Correctness" as such, the name does have some connotations which probably are fairly inappropriate for a young girls bed.

Unless of course youre aiming to raise a young Stripper/Hooker/Porn-Star.

Agreed, they were right to pull it in this case.

Its not political correctness at all, its decency.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2008, 13:16:40 PM
Whether you attribute it decency or not, they were still wrong to pull it in this case. So are parents to be banned from naming their children Lolita because it happens to coincide with the name of the book? Where do you draw the line?

Should we remove Glitter from the shelves too while were at it?
Title: PC
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on February 02, 2008, 13:31:19 PM
No because noone is banning it, the store has removed it as its in poor taste.

If someone says Lolita to you, most people would instantly think of that book/movie.

Relax crazy paranoid people... we still have free will, you can if you wish call your daughter a name attributed to child sex and promiscuity however most people would think you were an idiot to do so.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2008, 14:02:52 PM
Yeah, right... so all the Spanish that name their daughter that from the derivative Lola where it originates are idiots?

So if the author had decided the book/character was to named Anne, or Sarah, or some equally common name, all those parents would be idiots too? You wernt one of those that linched the paediatrician were you?
Title: Re:PC
Post by: addictweb on February 02, 2008, 15:30:22 PM
This is being blown out of proportion.

It is a little silly for woolworths to call a girls bedding range Lolita - a google search can confirm that it has connotations. There is nothing wrong with Lolita but it would probably harm the sales figures of the range so im sure woolworths are just going to re-brand it.

They were not banned, sued or even asked to remove the line, the mothers forum just asked them for their thought process and if they realised that there might be connotations. After spotting the connotations woolworths THEMSELVES chose to stop selling the stuff.

This isnt news, its just something for people to rabble about.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: Rivkid on February 02, 2008, 16:01:32 PM
I think Woolies have got this right to be honest. Its a name thats synonymous with paedophilia regardless of whether its a normal name or not. Just stick it in to any search engine if you want proof. Theres an assosication that exists whether thats right or wrong.

Technically theres nothing wrong with it and it couldnt be banned by any means that would be silly - but in good taste it was a good move.
Title: PC
Post by: Edd on February 02, 2008, 16:27:06 PM
its not a name that is synonymous with paedos, its a name synonymous with a sexual promiscuous young girl

i think it was a poor choice of name and woolies were right to withdraw the line
Title: PC
Post by: Sam on February 02, 2008, 16:59:34 PM
Yes blame the manufacturer for being stupid.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: BigSoy on February 02, 2008, 18:11:06 PM
I can just picture the kind of people chastising Woolies for this move being the same people to condem girls getting pregnant at 14 etc and spending a lifetime on benefits.

If you let them sleep in a Lolita bed, wander round in matching "Little Miss Naughty" training bra and pants, and write their homework with a Playboy pencil, what do you expect?

Title: Re:PC
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on February 02, 2008, 18:39:38 PM
Most kids have never read the book anyway, like any of them really understand the connotations involved to even consider it bad taste.

Anyone that thinks a bedspread called Lolita is going to have raving paedophiles at the window or their daughter turning into a jailbait slut are really deluded.

Ive changed my mind though. Theres clearly enough tabloid readers out there to warrant a need to protect themselves by removing it from the shelves - for bad taste.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on February 02, 2008, 23:13:12 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeYeah, right... so all the Spanish that name their daughter that from the derivative Lola where it originates are idiots?

So if the author had decided the book/character was to named Anne, or Sarah, or some equally common name, all those parents would be idiots too? You wernt one of those that linched the paediatrician were you?

Of course... have the mental capacity to link a name with connotations means I am unable to determine the difference between a paediatrician, and a peadophile. :rolleyes:
Title: Re:PC
Post by: Serious on February 02, 2008, 23:35:36 PM
There has recently been an advert, put out by an airline, with a woman dressed up in a schoolgirl like uniform banned.

Then there is the issue of the playboy rabbit symbol which is being pushed to kids, perhaps that should be banned too?
Title: Re:PC
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on February 03, 2008, 00:06:01 AM
Quote from: SeriousThere has recently been an advert, put out by an airline, with a woman dressed up in a schoolgirl like uniform banned.

Then there is the issue of the playboy rabbit symbol which is being pushed to kids, perhaps that should be banned too?

No it hasnt its been "advised" by the ACA to be removed as the content could cause offence. Its still around, and isnt banned.

As for the playboy kids range, the average kid with such gear are typically from a crap parental background... sort of proves the point that they are somewhat unsuitable for child audiences.

Title: Re:PC
Post by: Serious on February 03, 2008, 00:10:36 AM
Was on the bbc news yesterday that it had been banned.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on February 03, 2008, 01:11:14 AM
Quote from: SeriousWas on the bbc news yesterday that it had been banned.

Link me up, considering it was on the BBC News that it had been advised against, not banned. I believe ryanair made a response that chastised the advice, stating that they will not be removing it.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: Serious on February 03, 2008, 15:16:19 PM
QuoteBudget airline Ryanair has been told to withdraw an advert featuring a model in schoolgirl-style clothes and a headline "hottest back to school fares".

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The advert has been removed and it will not run again, an ASA spokesman told BBC News.

Media space owners will not accept the advert again, the spokesman said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7216926.stm

Got enough egg on your face yet? Nobody will publish it so its banned.
Title: PC
Post by: Deaths Head on February 03, 2008, 15:32:57 PM
QuoteMr Sherrard added that Ryanair believed the advert was not irresponsible nor offensive and would therefore "not be withdrawing this ad" and would "not provide the ASA with any of the undertakings they seek".

They have been told to withdaw it and publications have said they will not run it however that does not constitute being banned.  They can still publish the ad if they cant find someone willing to.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: Serious on February 03, 2008, 16:01:55 PM
The BBC news reader specifically used the word banned. Ryanair said they were not withdrawing the ad but it wont be shown anyway. Effectively they have banned it as far as possible under the present legislation.

I actually agree with Ryanair on this, its pc gone too far.
Title: Re:PC
Post by: FaT LeoN on February 03, 2008, 18:23:13 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0NeWhether you attribute it decency or not, they were still wrong to pull it in this case. So are parents to be banned from naming their children Lolita because it happens to coincide with the name of the book? Where do you draw the line?

Should we remove Glitter from the shelves too while were at it?

Good point about Glitter!