I'm not too worried about the risk, as I bought in at a low price and its held relatively high. I'm not in on any other AIMs at the moment, I think the rest are mostly sh*te. The plan is to cash out of CYAN if it does go boom and put that into something long on the NASDAQ. I think those of us in it only anticipated being in CYAN for a short time as the TNEB tenure was supposed to be done and dusted ages ago, it has dragged on and on and on, but as I say to Sam every time he asks me why I haven't pulled my money out and invested elsewhere its because no doubt the moment I do they will make an announcement and I'd kick myself, so I'm holding on either way. If its bad news hopefully I can sell out and still be in profit before it comes crashing right down.

Only reason I'm holding is I only put a very small amount in to start with. At small volumes the fee for trading soon becomes a big tax on any returns. The £300 I put in I wrote off at the start.  If it dwindles to nothing so be it. If it stays level I'll be happy.  And if I can make more money in the long term than I would have if it was in an isa, even better!

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Quote from: Dave on June 12, 2013, 16:14:31 PM
appreciating that it might still fly to some ridiculous price after you've sold but so will other penny stocks you're not invested in.

That's a really good way to look at it.

Kick yourself for selling a stock then it doubles. Why not kick yourself when a stock you could have bought but didn't doubles?

That makes no sense though, if you don't own a stock you are not 'in it to win it' you might as well start wishing you had invested in every company in existence, or to make a similar analogy, buying every scratchard and lottery ticket in existence.

but thats why people invest in penny stocks - hoping to be the next big thing. Like Asos, who would known when they was less than 5p that 10 years later they be worth £40
TPS only a few months ago saw gains of nearly 1000% - they are still under 1p to buy though! cant look at it as prices. You gotta look at it as a percentage profit/loss.

Thing with penny stocks at that low end is a small movement = a large %

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on June 14, 2013, 19:44:13 PM
That makes no sense though, if you don't own a stock you are not 'in it to win it' you might as well start wishing you had invested in every company in existence, or to make a similar analogy, buying every scratchard and lottery ticket in existence.

Makes as much sense as getting annoyed if you sell something and then it goes up later on.

Wouldn't say I am annoyed as much as I am surprised. Those shares were the first ever ones I ever bought. It was the "testing of the water" by a complete financial novice. You hear about people that had MS shares and sold early, and think "that'll never happen again though", and wham, your first attempt at the stock market *could* have been a success.

Not annoyed, surprised at the jammy luck I had. I still doubled my money, as a first time buyer!

Dont they say if you bought $100 in mcdonalds all them years ago & took all theoptions, etc.
You would now be one of the majority share holders?
Thats what penny shares are about. Ivest in something cheaply that has a strong product with an emerging technology.
Smart meters for example is potentially huge. Gas, electric, water, then seperate them into lighting, etc.
Bio techs are another & for the short term, even housing in the uk - i bought mar for 3.5p back in march & sold out today for 10.5p

Quote from: Eggtastico on June 17, 2013, 13:13:50 PM
Dont they say if you bought $100 in mcdonalds all them years ago & took all theoptions, etc.
You would now be one of the majority share holders?

Don't know if that is true, I highly doubt that you could have got into mcdonalds for pennies and be the majority shareholder. Why would Mr Mcdonald sell off half his company for 100 quid ? Makes no sense.

But in general ...

Quote from: Eggtastico on June 17, 2013, 13:13:50 PM
Thats what penny shares are about. Ivest in something cheaply that has a strong product with an emerging technology.

... that can have rewards. Apple $5 etc.

Quote from: Eggtastico on June 17, 2013, 13:13:50 PM
Smart meters for example is potentially huge. Gas, electric, water, then seperate them into lighting, etc.

This is where people who buy pennies and people who don't disagree. You know nothing about smart meters other than what you read on the internet. Well gosh dammit, I'm gonna invest in the rapture, 2nd coming of Jesus, and aliens.

Most pennys are what we call pump n dump. Get rumours on the internet to get their prices up, then dump.

It's no coincidence all the rich investors have been in KO GE JNJ IBM etc for years.

Everyone has to start somewhere though, if you only have £1k to play with you're not going to get rich dumping it into IBM and watching it climb 10 points in ten years, the big stocks are not the big movers. If you've got lots of money the big stocks are no-brainers though, as your risk is low but you're getting a more or less guaranteed [smaller] reward. I do agree totally that 90% of the AIMs are pump + dump sh*te, or end up going nowhere on the rumour mill. My optimism cap tells me CYAN isn't one of them

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on June 17, 2013, 17:28:26 PM
Everyone has to start somewhere though, if you only have £1k to play with you're not going to get rich dumping it into IBM and watching it climb 10 points in ten years, the big stocks are not the big movers. If you've got lots of money the big stocks are no-brainers though, as your risk is low but you're getting a more or less guaranteed [smaller] reward. I do agree totally that 90% of the AIMs are pump + dump sh*te, or end up going nowhere on the rumour mill. My optimism cap tells me CYAN isn't one of them

I made 5k+ holding shares in my employers firm. Their buyout doubled the share price overnight.

Exactly. No one one is going to buyout Apple/IBM

Quote from: Sam on June 17, 2013, 16:55:14 PM

This is where people who buy pennies and people who don't disagree. You know nothing about smart meters other than what you read on the internet. Well gosh dammit, I'm gonna invest in the rapture, 2nd coming of Jesus, and aliens.

Most pennys are what we call pump n dump. Get rumours on the internet to get their prices up, then dump.

It's no coincidence all the rich investors have been in KO GE JNJ IBM etc for years.

Actually i do... My cousin worked for cyan & wrote a bulk of the coding before moving on to a global player.
Uk energy sector relies on people submitting meter readings & switching suppliers. India for example is still state owned with all sort of problems in losing revenue through theft.
The upbeat about cyan is their technolgy is 1/4 the price of its competitor. Average electricity bill in india for example is $10 - the cyan cylec chip is $7. Estimates loss because of poor infastructure & theft is about 30% on average.

It could quite easily rise 2-3p if the news is positive & easily be gobbled up by a tech giant for a relative small T/O price for the technology they aquire.
This is one if the companies that came out of the world renowned cambride associates program.

http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/investors/stock_information/stock_split.html


Since going public in 1965, McDonald's has executed twelve stock splits. In fact, an investment of $2,250 in 100 shares at that time has grown to 74,360 shares worth approximately $6.6 million as of market close on December 31, 2012.



Wallmart if you invested $5k (well your parents) that stock would now be worth $100m


Each microsoft share that cost $[size=78%]21 at its ipo is now worth $10k[/size]

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/Downloads/Stock%20Information/IPOROIcalc.xls
Todays share price is nearer $35 not $25


£5k in asos 10 years ago= £5m today?

Quote from: Eggtastico on June 17, 2013, 19:53:57 PM
http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/investors/stock_information/stock_split.html
Since going public in 1965, McDonald's has executed twelve stock splits. In fact, an investment of $2,250 in 100 shares at that time has grown to 74,360 shares worth approximately $6.6 million as of market close on December 31, 2012.

That is pretty amazing. I was initially writing a reply that wasn't impressed but I've changed my mind and that is a great return.

But McDonalds was hardly a penny stock in 1965. It's a proper company and are you going to hold Cyan for 48 years? If you do you're following what I am saying - buy and hold will always win out. People who bought McDonalds in 1965 held for 48 years knowing it was a solid growth company. Instead the companies mentioned here are silly gambles hoping on some secret deal that happens to be all over the internet except shhh don't tell anyone, my mate's dads cleaner works for them and has the inside track.

Silly get rich quick schemes in nonsense companies (actually Cyan I quite like after reading about them, but the oil and gas ones, just total gambles) will never work in the long run http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_run_and_short_run

I hope all the ones you lot are in though double or quadruple so you can come back and tell me you told me so, but whilst you're buying me a pint or 10 with your winnings.