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Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 17:50:24 PM
Does anyone know about teaching English in Japanese schools?

If Skidzilla is about, whats it like in Japan as youre out there arent you ?
Is it hot? humid? cold?

Are the apartments small and confined like in most TV shows and films I see?
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2007, 17:59:05 PM
"Idea of the week"
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 18:00:42 PM
Quote from: Sam"Idea of the week"

:lol:

It isnt an idea! Im looking to get out of this country for a while and see some other part of the world. Im at the stage of my life where I can do it.
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: bear on November 24, 2007, 18:29:56 PM
I know it is cold and snowy in northern Japan, my brother lived there a year , very much snow it was.
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2007, 18:32:55 PM
Quote from: mr_roll
Quote from: Sam"Idea of the week"

:lol:

It isnt an idea! Im looking to get out of this country for a while and see some other part of the world. Im at the stage of my life where I can do it.

You could prolly teach in Czech easily. You dont need a work visa and they hire loads of people to teach English (its full of yanks who do it).
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Dave on November 24, 2007, 18:37:32 PM
+ czech girls are good looking & easy

also they tend to have better figures than the flabby slags you find in some of the cheaper english nightclubs
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: chrisdicko on November 24, 2007, 18:43:29 PM
czech girls FTW!! We have some at work, and they are all really nice, plus there isnt a fat arse between them!
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 18:58:22 PM
Hmm, Im reading a lot about Japan, Id like to live in the city if I did go out there.

Basically my contract is up at the end of February and the school terms start in mid march over there. So Itd be pretty much perfect for me.

Ill investigate czech teaching too but would prefer Japan as then I could learn Japanese too :D
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Quixoticish on November 24, 2007, 19:01:12 PM
I believe its relatively easy to get things sorted, you need to have a bachelors degree in any subject minimum to get your VISA and demonstrate that your English is of a suitable standard for some places but lots of people go to Japan to teach English. Youll need sponsorship as well to get you in, I believe there are firms that will sort this out for you in the UK or alternatively you can try and get it from a company already based in Japan.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 19:15:31 PM
Quote from: Chris HI believe its relatively easy to get things sorted, you need to have a bachelors degree in any subject minimum to get your VISA and demonstrate that your English is of a suitable standard for some places but lots of people go to Japan to teach English. Youll need sponsorship as well to get you in, I believe there are firms that will sort this out for you in the UK or alternatively you can try and get it from a company already based in Japan.

Thanks for that, Ive seen some places where a degree isnt necessary, although cant find much more detail about that... Im going to keep looking though.

My highest qualification is a Btec National Diploma  :cry:  :whoops:  :?
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2007, 19:23:09 PM
Quote from: Dave+ czech girls are good looking & easy

also they tend to have better figures than the flabby slags you find in some of the cheaper english nightclubs

Yes there was loads of nice girls when I went.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2007, 19:23:35 PM
Quote from: mr_roll
Quote from: Chris HI believe its relatively easy to get things sorted, you need to have a bachelors degree in any subject minimum to get your VISA and demonstrate that your English is of a suitable standard for some places but lots of people go to Japan to teach English. Youll need sponsorship as well to get you in, I believe there are firms that will sort this out for you in the UK or alternatively you can try and get it from a company already based in Japan.

Thanks for that, Ive seen some places where a degree isnt necessary, although cant find much more detail about that... Im going to keep looking though.

My highest qualification is a Btec National Diploma  :cry:  :whoops:  :?

Cz it is then :) You dont need a visa there.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 19:28:47 PM
From what Im reading Id probably be on a low wage or not even considered if I dont have a degree in something.

F*** Sake! Degrees prove NOTHING except you spent 3 or 4 years in a classroom.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Mark on November 24, 2007, 19:31:28 PM
youll end up dead in a bath full of sand.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 19:37:55 PM
Quote from: mr_rollF*** Sake! Degrees prove NOTHING except you spent 3 or 4 years in a classroom.

Ok, they dont really, Im just sick of some people saying degrees are the great thing.

I think they arent a touch on real life experiences.

Although some sites say if I have a TEFL certificate then it can help. So I might look for a TEFL course local to me.

Theres this: http://www.uk-tefl.com/page.php?pageid=58 < What are peoples thoughts on that ?
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2007, 19:39:51 PM
Whats the obsession with Japan? Take a look at China or Singapore or something I dunno. Theyre all the same, they eat dogs, worship dragons and watch cartoon porn.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Eggtastico on November 24, 2007, 19:53:36 PM
get a tefl & decide from there. I really thought about czech myself doing the same - or at least till i could find somthing else
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2007, 20:10:10 PM
Quote from: Eggtasticoget a tefl & decide from there. I really thought about czech myself doing the same - or at least till i could find somthing else

Says the most anti-immigration man on the forums :)
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Serious on November 24, 2007, 20:13:20 PM
Quote from: SamWhats the obsession with Japan? Take a look at China or Singapore or something I dunno. Theyre all the same, they eat dogs, worship dragons and watch cartoon porn.

Probably heard that theres no age limit and hes after some very young nookie that would be illegal in the UK?

*actually this is probably out of date information I have no idea really*
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: knighty on November 24, 2007, 20:21:56 PM
mm, japan is expensive remember :o

you could live like a king in Czech ;)
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Eggtastico on November 24, 2007, 20:26:23 PM
Quote from: Sam
Quote from: Eggtasticoget a tefl & decide from there. I really thought about czech myself doing the same - or at least till i could find somthing else

Says the most anti-immigration man on the forums :)

im not anti immigration, im anti free loading illegals.

Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 20:41:34 PM
I just like the idea of Japan, Thailand would be to humid for me and Id like the hustle and bustle of Tokyo specifically.

The reason I want to do this is because itd be a life experience, something I could tell my kids and grand kids, something to be proud of.

I like the idea of Prague too and especially the idea of living like a king :D
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Serious on November 24, 2007, 21:04:16 PM
So mr_roll gets off the plane, insults one of those ninjas and ends up mr_head_rolled_away.

Not a pretty sight IMHO  :mrgreen:
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Dave on November 24, 2007, 22:10:34 PM
Quote from: mr_rollOk, they dont really, Im just sick of some people saying degrees are the great thing.

I think they arent a touch on real life experiences.

I completely agree as far as soft subjects are concerned business studies, media studies etc.. are a joke..

I mean someone who learns some basic accountancy (essentially requires the ability to add and subtract and follow some rules), some basic marketing etc.. then writes a few essays hasnt had to do anything particularly challenging aside from learning and regurgitating information.

At least with pure science & engineering the students are expected to understand concepts that are a bit more challenging and then apply that knowledge to problems that actually require some intelligence.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 23:35:51 PM
Quote from: Dave
Quote from: mr_rollOk, they dont really, Im just sick of some people saying degrees are the great thing.

I think they arent a touch on real life experiences.

I completely agree as far as soft subjects are concerned business studies, media studies etc.. are a joke..

I mean someone who learns some basic accountancy (essentially requires the ability to add and subtract and follow some rules), some basic marketing etc.. then writes a few essays hasnt had to do anything particularly challenging aside from learning and regurgitating information.

At least with pure science & engineering the students are expected to understand concepts that are a bit more challenging and then apply that knowledge to problems that actually require some intelligence.

True, my ex-step brother returned from Uni with the knowledge on how to edit a film, but I think he did a Marketing degree.

I dont understand. And for me to do a degree is an insane amount of money! and I cant stand being taught in a class room, Id rather be taught on the job. (One reason I didnt go to Uni)
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 24, 2007, 23:47:27 PM
Id also like to get an AE86 and go drifting in some illegal Japanese street racing. :lol:
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: DEViANCE on November 25, 2007, 00:23:54 AM
surely to teach another country english you need to be able to speak the other language?

anyway i would love to go to japan but the cost of living is ridiculus, its like £40 for a big mac meal.

Ive been considering an offer for an electrical engineer in nanjing, but its not realy the right time for me at the moment.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 25, 2007, 00:27:21 AM
Quote from: DEViANCEsurely to teach another country english you need to be able to speak the other language?

Apperently not, some places Ive read about on the internet ask for different levels of Japanese though. from "conversational" to "entry level" to even none.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: SteveF on November 25, 2007, 11:03:42 AM
you will almost certainly need to have at least a degree or a teaching qualification to be able to teach in Japan.  Youre up against a lot of people doing the same whore very qualified.

Chinas meant to be fairly easy to get teaching work privately thats pretty well paid.

Have mates who went to Japan (Tokyo) teaching and ended up eating sugar in water to stay alive due to the cost of living versus income.  Without at least decent Japanese youd be unable to operate outside of Tokyo really.  In Tokyo everyone speaks english to you even if you want to speak Japanese.  The friends who went to China didnt come back

TEFLs the answer tho.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 25, 2007, 12:13:26 PM
Quote from: SteveFThe friends who went to China didnt come back

TEFLs the answer tho.

Thanks steve, that worries me that they didnt come back!!  :shock:

Yeah I think Ill find a reputable TEFL, some courses are a weekend course and some are like 4 weeks. I think Ive found a good one.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Ceathreamhnan on November 25, 2007, 12:31:50 PM
Am I the only person thinking youd need to learn Japanese before you can teach Japanese people to speak English? :lol: From a purely practical point of view?
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Quixoticish on November 25, 2007, 12:36:35 PM
Quote from: CeathreamhnanAm I the only person thinking youd need to learn Japanese before you can teach Japanese people to speak English? :lol: From a purely practical point of view?

They have a lot of schools set up over there where people can go to learn to speak further English and get to grips with the nitty gritty of the language; the people youd be teaching would probably already be fairly competent English speakers. The only downside with this approach is that your English has to be fairly good to begin with and youd have to be able to pass a test to make sure you were up to scratch but for 90% of the population that wouldnt be a problem.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 25, 2007, 13:33:58 PM
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: CeathreamhnanAm I the only person thinking youd need to learn Japanese before you can teach Japanese people to speak English? :lol: From a purely practical point of view?

They have a lot of schools set up over there where people can go to learn to speak further English and get to grips with the nitty gritty of the language; the people youd be teaching would probably already be fairly competent English speakers. The only downside with this approach is that your English has to be fairly good to begin with and youd have to be able to pass a test to make sure you were up to scratch but for 90% of the population that wouldnt be a problem.

What he said :)

IF I could get out there with my Quals then I would learn basic Japanese to begin with though.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 25, 2007, 18:13:42 PM
Quote from: Chris HThe only downside with this approach is that your English has to be fairly good to begin with and youd have to be able to pass a test to make sure you were up to scratch but for 90% of the population that wouldnt be a problem.

But hes from Newcastle.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: mr_roll on November 25, 2007, 18:41:29 PM
Quote from: Sam
Quote from: Chris HThe only downside with this approach is that your English has to be fairly good to begin with and youd have to be able to pass a test to make sure you were up to scratch but for 90% of the population that wouldnt be a problem.

But hes from Newcastle.

I forgot that point, sh*t! Another of my ideas shot down in flames :( :(
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 25, 2007, 19:34:41 PM
It was a joke but surely its time for another idea anyway ?
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Quixoticish on November 25, 2007, 19:38:06 PM
Quote from: SamIt was a joke but surely its time for another idea anyway ?

p0rnstar?
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: SteveF on November 25, 2007, 20:15:50 PM
Adverse possesion?
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Serious on November 25, 2007, 23:56:34 PM
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: SamIt was a joke but surely its time for another idea anyway ?

p0rnstar?

He can go to Tailand and become a ladyboy ;)
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Deaths Head on November 26, 2007, 00:05:06 AM
This idea reminds me of a book I read quite a while ago.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Angry-White-Pyjamas-Oxford-Trains/dp/0575401249/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196035376&sr=1-9

The book starts off with him teaching on a holiday VISA and he has to quickly arrange something to be able to stay in the country.  
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Jaimz on November 26, 2007, 01:27:51 AM
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: SamWhats the obsession with Japan? Take a look at China or Singapore or something I dunno. Theyre all the same, they eat dogs, worship dragons and watch cartoon porn.

Probably heard that theres no age limit and hes after some very young nookie that would be illegal in the UK?

*actually this is probably out of date information I have no idea really*

Isnt that more your sort of thing?! *thinks back to some of Serious avatars*

Jaimz :rock:
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: red on November 26, 2007, 08:42:46 AM
Quote from: mr_rollFrom what Im reading Id probably be on a low wage or not even considered if I dont have a degree in something.

F*** Sake! Degrees prove NOTHING except you spent 3 or 4 years in a classroom.

i disagree with that.

some of the girls i know out here are doing a language degree/linguistics degree so they can speak the "native" language, so if the kids dont get it, they can tell them what they are teaching.
Title: Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Serious on November 26, 2007, 21:55:52 PM
Quote from: Jaimz
Quote from: Serious
Quote from: SamWhats the obsession with Japan? Take a look at China or Singapore or something I dunno. Theyre all the same, they eat dogs, worship dragons and watch cartoon porn.

Probably heard that theres no age limit and hes after some very young nookie that would be illegal in the UK?

*actually this is probably out of date information I have no idea really*

Isnt that more your sort of thing?! *thinks back to some of Serious avatars*

Jaimz :rock:

Never been, dont want to go.
Title: Re:Teaching English in Japan?
Post by: Sam on November 26, 2007, 22:18:53 PM
Quote from: mr_rollId also like to get an AE86 and go drifting in some illegal Japanese street racing. :lol:

Is that junction 13 off the A1 ?