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Started by Serious, May 07, 2015, 17:33:05 PM

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Serious

Had 3 local election candidates, UKIP = no thanks, Conservative = not with George Osborne. That left Labour :/

National ended up with the one I least distrusted, not that I really trust any of them.

Remember, if you didn't vote and it's a hung parliament then it's all your fault...  :P



Eggtastico

if you dont vote, you cant moan.
so im off to deface my paper with a massive cock drawn on it.
just hope they dont give my vote to labour

bear

Looks like there will be no change.

Clock'd 0Ne

There's never any change, hence I don't vote. It's the same bullsh*t every time, everyone else goes out to vote and stomps around social media proclaiming they're "doing their bit" to get the "idiots" out of power, the next set of idiots sit in, they do exactly the same amount of damage or more and the cycle repeats. It's like there is a 5 year window on people's memories where they suddenly now forget that the other parties are just as sh*t and full of lies.

My personal circumstances will barely change regardless of who gets into power, they all do equally well running the country into demise and I don't give a sh*t how much they tinker with the VAT or taxes.

Bacon

I couldn't give a sh*t who comes in, its all a load of bullsh*t, i'll be worse off year on year, the nhs is going to collapse, taxes will rise, pay will be held, house prices will go mental, where is the positive...
Insert signature here.

matt5cott

None of the above needs to exist IMO

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/inclusion-of-an-official-none-of-the-above-option-for-all-uk-elections-2

It's important to distinguish between plain apathy and those who think the system doesn't work (which it clearly does not)

I voted none of the above (with a ditty about banks) but it'll just go down as 'spoiled'

Serious

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2015-32594267

The initial impression might be that the people got scared about the SNP and voted Tory. The SNP won a landslide victory in Scotland, almost every seat, which could mean more pressure for Scottish devolution.

That wasn't enough for the Conservatives to get the win they did, a simple seat transfer from labour to SNP wouldn't have changed the number of Conservative seats. Labour actually got more seats in England and more votes than last time.

What really caused it was the collapse of the Lib-dems vote losing them 37 seats, most of which went to the Conservatives who picked up 21 seats in England. Labour are up 15 and UKIP up 1.

Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage  all quit.

This result effectively gave UKIP the third largest vote (3,881,129) but only one seat. The SNP got 1,454,436 votes and 56 seats. Labout got 9,347,326 votes and the Conservatives 11,334,920, not that much more but almost half more seats for the Tories?... I think something is stupidly wrong with the way UK voting is handled.

Sam

You're over analysing it. The Tories won again because who the hell wants Labour in power? People on the dole and that's about it. And those people rarely vote anyway.

Serious

There are lots of reasons people voted the way they did. Truth is Labour got a bigger vote increase than the Conservatives, although nowhere near enough to stop them. Losing the Scottish seats hurt lots but that was down to people voting SDP. Had the Lib-Dem vote not collapsed then they probably wouldn't be a Tory majority. Then again they did make themselves very unpopular by backing dodgy far right wing policies.

You could just pin it on Conservative scaremongering but I don't think it's that simple.

BTW think there were a hell of a lot more than those on the dole who voted Labour. I doubt if the unemployment figures have been massaged to hide most of 11 million voters.

Still, they now have to put up a referendum to stay in Europe or leave. That will doubtless be fun.

Sam

Nonsense mate. Labour could have won every single seat in Scotland - every single one - and would not have affected result.

People voted for the Tories because literally noone trusts Labour on the economy. Maybe next time.

Eggtastico

so... labour lost because of the SNP & people voted Conservatives
UKIP didnt want many seats, because of the SNP
Greens lost votes to conservatives because of the SNP

Its all absolute bollocks. There are 650 seats. Scotland make up less than 10% of that.
Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland combined make up less than 25% of it.

The UK election is won & lost in England. Labour had always started with a massive advantage over Tories because of their dominance in Scotland with Wales gave them a 50+ seat headstart.

Well that has now gone.

Serious

Quote from: Sam on May 20, 2015, 00:47:11 AM
Nonsense mate. Labour could have won every single seat in Scotland - every single one - and would not have affected result.


I said that - twice. The transfer of seats to SDP didn't make a difference because it wasn't to the Conservatives. In England Labour got more votes and seats than last time but those effectively came from the Liberals.

What threw it was most of the rest of the Liberal seats went Conservative.

Yes, it was a bad result for Labour, they didn't do as well as they should have and didn't get their message across properly. Anyway, shock, horror, I didn't vote for them - not that it made any difference.


Eggtastico

Quote from: Serious on May 21, 2015, 08:07:41 AM
Quote from: Sam on May 20, 2015, 00:47:11 AM
Nonsense mate. Labour could have won every single seat in Scotland - every single one - and would not have affected result.


I said that - twice. The transfer of seats to SDP didn't make a difference because it wasn't to the Conservatives. In England Labour got more votes and seats than last time but those effectively came from the Liberals.

What threw it was most of the rest of the Liberal seats went Conservative.

Yes, it was a bad result for Labour, they didn't do as well as they should have and didn't get their message across properly. Anyway, shock, horror, I didn't vote for them - not that it made any difference.



Message? what message? they lost because Milliband is unelectable & I wouldnt trust Ed Balls to run a household budget. Let alone the countries.