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Was the first US moon landing faked?

Started by Dave, May 16, 2006, 21:25:14 PM

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Dave

Were they faked? Was it all actually shot in a hollywood studio? Do you wear a tin hat to bed at night?

maximusotter

No, but the CIA killed John and Robert Kennedy, and had such a good time, that they went ahead and killed MLK and Malcolm X when on their big killin tear.

Dave

...and after that they used alien technology (probably from area 51) and flew a plane shaped non plane missile into pentagon in order to invade iraq.

This was one of Bushs ideas he had while worshiping a giant owl in his californian club/retreat bohemian grove * after carrying out a human sacrifice with some other lizzard men/world leaders.... :D

conspiracy theories are fun - sad thing is some people actually believe them

*Its like some skull and bones esk masonic/illuminata/new world order conspiracy group & not just some club for sad middle aged upper class men to drink a few beers in the woods.

Serious

Some conspiracy theories are based on fact though, its working out which ones are real, which ones have some truth and the ones that were just made up by drunks on a dark night for a laugh.

The Davinci Code is obviously fake although it does have some fact in it. Still far too many people believe it could be true though :/

Dave

most conspiracy theories have facts in them & are not just made up by drunks - but by seriously deluded people with no sense of logical thought

like the alien hunters who used to report seeing black triangular UFOs & the air traffic control not picking anything up + the US military not saying anything. Obviously a big governemtn cover up of aliens etc... Years later it turns out they have invented a stealth aircraft that happens to be a big black triangular thing.

maximusotter

The Kennedy Assasinations and 9/11 are ripe for theories as the "truth" doesnt cut it. 9/11 is indeed such a monumental blunder that Im certain that the real truth is far uglier than well ever get to know. Not a single fighter scrambled for four different incidents. You tell me, what are the odds of that?

JFKs shooting is a mystery as youd have to be magic marksman with curving bullets to strike the POTUS from where the gunman supposedly was located.

RFKs assasination is the golden boy of the list:

Quote1. Senator Kennedy was shot in the back and from behind. Yet all witnesses placed Sirhan as standing face-to-face in front of RFK.

2. Sirhans gun was placed by all witnesses at between 2 and 5 feet from the victim, but the autopsy report states that the distance between the assailants gun and the victim was between 1 and 2 inches.

3. The shots entering the victims body were fired at a sharp upward angle, but the defendant was seen by all witnesses to hold his gun horizontally.

4. The autopsy report which exonerates the defendant was withheld from the court and the defense by prosecutors for at least four months, until after defense counsel had conceded to the jury that their client was the killer--something which the autopsy report demonstrates to be impossible.

5. Thane Eugene Cesar, a recently-hired part-time private security guard who worked full-time for Lockheed Aircraft, admitted to police that he was standing behind and in actual contact with Senator Kennedy, that he dropped down into a crouching position and that he pulled his gun when the shooting began. This account puts the security guard and not the defendant in position to have shot RFK.

That RFKs assasination was a huge coverup is understood by most scholars as being very real and true. Its the details that are foggy.

The motive was likely his opposition to a secret CIA plan to create a viable reason to invade Cuba, one of which was the assasination of Castro.

Some folks say it was because of his opposition to the war, and that MLK was also a target due to his war stance. I dont know about this. It is common knowledge than James Earl Ray didnt shoot MLK. The evidence is slim at best, especially the physical evidence. Even MLKs son, after meeting with JER is convinced.

Did the government kill off all three? Doubt it very much, but quick trails and conviction of three men on extremely flawed evidence raises a huge red flag.


Serious

The only evidence against Oswald was circumstantial at best, he was in the building where the shots were probably fired from. Except he should have been easily been able to leave rather than get caught in there. The police took the first easy suspect.

The bullet trajectory does line up though so the supposed second assassin isnt required.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm

Dave

Yes there is a lot of dodgy stuff about 9/11 - Im not surprised the bin laden family got sent out of the US via private jets during the time when no other planes were allowed to fly pretty soon after for thier own safety - or more like the bush administration sh*tting a brick upon realising they are actually quite good chums with the faimly whos estranged sons organisation was behind it all.

What I do have a problem with is all the crap that goes with such events - i.e. the story that the jews did it & the isralie embassy warned all jewish workers not to go to work that day - has been widly publisised in the arab press.

Also the idea that a missile not a plane went into the pentagon (umm yeah ok - so where did the plane go then if it didnt crash into the pentagon & where did this imaginary missile that managed to knock down several street lights with the wings it didnt have go to).

Some people actually believe this sort of crap - so much so that when something actually genuinly dodgy comes to light it just get lumped into the rest of the conspiracy.

knighty

ok, i have to come clean here, i was the one that blew the hole in the pentagon, it was an accident, i didnt mean to do it !

the wind blew the bag of my head and the side of the pentagon took the full force of my good looks... nothing could stand up to that, it was a masica

sorry guys

maximusotter

lol, knighty. :D

The attack on the Pentagon is just wickedly suspicious. Im not even going to go to the fringe and talk about drones or missles. Whatever.

It happened 30 minutes after both WTC towers were attacked. No jet escort, no nuthin. If its incompetence, Im scared, if its conspiracy, then Im equally frightened.

We dont know the whole truth, but my darkest theory is that when the Cheney cabal heard about the possible attacks, the first thing they thought was, w00t, now we can invade Iraq."

redneck

no bush worships my pubic hair.

get it right

Serious

I suspect that its highly probable that Cheyney had at least something to do with them along with Dubya. Fighters were supposed to be scrambled within five minutes of a plane being hijacked or loosing contact Even when the second plane flew into the building they still didnt respond quickly enough. The third plane circled the area around the Pentagon allegedly looking for the White house and they still didnt manage to get fighters up. Someone rigged the USAF so they didnt respond.

Then there was the Israili spies, the report sent to Bush, etc, etc.

Oh and the whole thing was far too much like a remake of the Japanese attack Pearl Harbour too.

maximusotter

What I dont get is how Bushs approval ratings went sky high on that day. My initial thoughts on him after the shock of seeing the second plane live on TV was that hes a goner--his administration would be seen as culpable through incompetence. Little did I understand how it would be the best day of his life.

Serious

Quote from: redno bush worships my pubic hair.

get it right

You have Bushs Warships in your pubic hair?  :shock:  I was wondering where they were hiding them  :mutley:

Dave

Quote from: SeriousI suspect that its highly probable that Cheyney had at least something to do with them along with Dubya.

Blimey I didnt think youd be a tin hatter

It is complete fantasy to think that the US administration in any way had a hand in allowing something like 911 to happen

Id certainly buy that they are incompetent & the response was fecked up - but to think they actually had a hand in allowing it to happen - um yeah and theyve got some aliens in the desert etc...